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Under Night In-Birth => UNREAL BLACK THINGS => Topic started by: Erkz on January 31, 2011, 08:24:48 AM

When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
Title: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on January 31, 2011, 08:24:48 AM
... is going to have it's reveal on the 6th of February. (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/31/metal_blood_team_new_game/)

French Bread wants fans of Melty Blood and 2D fighters to look forward to it. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110201/1296490206)

Can't wait to see what they've come up with. They've been pretty quiet about it aside from that one character concept thing.
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Post by: dumba989 on January 31, 2011, 08:27:38 AM
I'm interested to see what it is.
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Post by: Reewind on January 31, 2011, 01:18:07 PM
mbaa:cc HD on wii
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Post by: Rowanism on January 31, 2011, 01:55:31 PM
Melty Blood Actress Again : Current Code : Future Code

In HD, because they looked for HD pixel artists a few months ago, remember?
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Post by: Rowanism on January 31, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Double post.

http://www.gm-shoji.co.jp/newproduct/etc/new.htm
Koihime Musou fighting game leaked for April.

(http://npshare.de/files/cc3528b2/shin-koi-hime-musou.jpg)

French Bread's twitter favicon is from Koihime Musou.

(http://npshare.de/files/a3dd9569/8caaef8a.jpg)

(http://www.npshare.de/files/075e2396/hmmmm.jpg)

/speculation
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on January 31, 2011, 03:05:58 PM
I am excite. +Heat for announcing this exciting development.
Hopefully, Current Code PC w/official netplay. Or PS3.
Chances of that happening...sliiiiiiiiiim.

mbaa:cc HD on wii

HAhahhahahahah.
If that happened...I would cry. Not tears of joy.
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Post by: LoliSauce on January 31, 2011, 04:13:33 PM
They're going to be announcing their new IP, not a current code port.  :staysad:
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Post by: papagaio on January 31, 2011, 05:37:25 PM
Current Code or Bust
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Post by: 3IIIT on January 31, 2011, 06:36:47 PM
They're going to be announcing their new IP, not a current code port.  :staysad:

Why be sad? After all, if we had to come to grips with CC never coming home, at least we know that FB is working with a new IP, which should stand to do so, some day. Hell, maybe they may even team with "those guys" (ASW) in order to try and get released abroad.
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Post by: LoliSauce on January 31, 2011, 10:52:35 PM
They're going to be announcing their new IP, not a current code port.  :staysad:

Why be sad? After all, if we had to come to grips with CC never coming home, at least we know that FB is working with a new IP, which should stand to do so, some day. Hell, maybe they may even team with "those guys" (ASW) in order to try and get released abroad.
I'm glad for a new IP.  I'm saying stay sad to all the people who are hoping for a Current Code port.  They've already said they're going to be releasing info on the new game they've been working on, which they specifically noted previously is a new IP.  Chances of this announcement being a CC port are minimal.

Also on the subject of Koihime Musou - I don't know a damn thing about that series so not really excited at the possibility.
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Post by: It is a mystery. on February 01, 2011, 10:33:18 AM
I just hope it isn't BB all over again. "This game is pretty damn good......I miss Guilty Gear".
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 01, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
I just hope it isn't BB all over again. "This game is pretty damn good......I miss Guilty Gear".
lol.  Yeah, I'm kind of worried of that as well.  They might not try to make it a melty clone though, and go for something different in core mechanics.  Right now I basically don't have any expectations.  I'm trying to keep open to whatever they do and see how interested I am after the announcement.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 01, 2011, 06:03:21 PM
Current Code or Bust

This.

I just hope it isn't BB all over again. "This game is pretty damn good......I miss Guilty Gear".

Aaaaaand this.
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 01, 2011, 10:26:07 PM
I just hope it isn't BB all over again. "This game is pretty damn good......I miss Guilty Gear".
lol.  Yeah, I'm kind of worried of that as well.  They might not try to make it a melty clone though, and go for something different in core mechanics.  Right now I basically don't have any expectations.  I'm trying to keep open to whatever they do and see how interested I am after the announcement.

Well, I don't think they'll abandon every single thing from MB. After all, while this is a new IP, they're still going to want MB arcade-goers to roll over to the new game that eventually will be taking MB's place. And the best way to ensure that is to give them some thing relatively familiar to serve as a common ground, even as they may go in other directions for the overall "feel" of the game. 

I guess in the end, what I want is something closer to how the Darkstalkers/Vampire series became its own entity from SF, by developing its own playstyle and mechanics, even though it does share a number of the same "Capcom fighting game conventions" as SF. If FB's new FG can do some thing similar, I think it will do just fine, without having to necessarily do what ASW did for that ("hateful") BlazBlue.  ;D
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Post by: ehrik on February 02, 2011, 06:18:25 AM
I just want it to be like melty
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Post by: Tonberry on February 02, 2011, 09:22:48 AM
I just want it to be like melty

^this.  Melty mechanics are gdlk.  I wouldn't mind if they made some minor tweaks like AA --> CC as long as they don't ruin the game.
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Post by: LivingShadow on February 02, 2011, 03:39:04 PM
I just want it to be like melty

^this.  Melty mechanics are gdlk.  I wouldn't mind if they made some minor tweaks like AA --> CC as long as they don't ruin the game.

Thirded.

I'm mostly curious to see what the characters are. I'm hoping for some interesting concepts.
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Post by: Komidol on February 02, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
I just want it to be like melty

I just want melty.
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Post by: Alfonse on February 02, 2011, 06:01:19 PM
Eh, I'm hype for the KM fighting game if it ever happens, though it's out of topic.

Loli, it's like Ikkitousen - three kingdoms characters in girl form, with a lot less fanservice and ten times more moe.
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Post by: Tonberry on February 02, 2011, 08:33:08 PM
a lot less fanservice and ten times more moe.

Does not compute
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Post by: GenericSuperhero on February 03, 2011, 05:14:16 AM
idc if it's mugen with mbaa engine as long as nero's in it
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 03, 2011, 05:46:17 PM
idc if it's mugen with mbaa engine as long as nero's in it

Did you just say mugen?

(http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/GTFO/2/gtfo~4.jpg)


dumba989, I accidentally gave you HEAT.
You're welcome.
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Post by: Rowanism on February 04, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9DswepO_0

This is how the new game will be like
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 04, 2011, 04:59:29 PM
=<

Where's my -heat button?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: grandlordzero on February 04, 2011, 10:15:56 PM
SHIIIIIIIKIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIN
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
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Post by: Rowanism on February 05, 2011, 10:53:33 AM
SHIIIIIIIKIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIN
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
*dies of laughter
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 05, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
It would sort of make sense if we got the types involved.
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 05, 2011, 02:46:41 PM
I wonder when info will start leaking out from the HydraGP tournament. It'd be nice if there was at least some thing that the guys on the Donjon podcast had something to talk about by show time...  ;D
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Post by: It is a mystery. on February 05, 2011, 04:56:59 PM
Almost time. I'll try to stay optimistic. Anything that isn't a dumbed down melty i'd be happy with to be honest.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 05, 2011, 06:59:13 PM
Almost time.

Yea man. The wheels of fate are turning.
One more day till heaven or hell.
Are you ready?
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Post by: Rowanism on February 05, 2011, 09:49:01 PM
The wheels of fate are turning.
Did you just make a BlazBlue reference :psyduck:
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Post by: s4itox on February 05, 2011, 09:55:23 PM
The wheels of fate are turning.
Did you just make a BlazBlue reference :psyduck:
It was all-round Aksys reference
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 05, 2011, 09:58:51 PM
It was all-round Aksys reference

Needs more "DECIDE THE DESTINY".  ;D
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Post by: Erkz on February 06, 2011, 01:35:50 AM
New IP: Under Night In-Birth (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7675/wztbg.jpg). [... what? Also, 'In-Birth' is pronounced 'inverse' apparently.]

Also, "the official site should be up today, and they're currently uploading the promo movie, please be patient". (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110206/1296981766)

EDIT:

According to this twitter account, it seems that Melty's getting a version up as well? (http://twitter.com/ariesukobeya)  Both sites should be up soon.

EDIT 2:
Full scan of the first image. (http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2994/hydragp01l.jpg) Second image that reveals the game's website; (http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3338/hydragp02l.jpg) http://inbirth.info (http://inbirth.info), which is currently unavailable.

EDIT 3:  :slowpoke:
From a report on the event here. (http://www.ariesu.com/)
- 4 button control scheme.
- 4 characters revealed so far - Hyde, Linne, Waldstein and Carmine.
- Development started about a year ago, and the game is currently at 30~40% completion.
- Expected release at the end of the year.
- An exhibition is planned for the Amusement Maker Show in September.
- 1280x720 HD resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio.


About the next Melty Blood
- Additional Characters.
- 2 screenshots were shown.
- Powerd Ciel added to the game.  [:gonk:]
- Scheduled for Spring.
- Arcades currently running Current Code will get upgraded free of charge.
- Another character will be revealed around Summer, they can't say who it is just yet, but they can give a hint.
- Afterwards, they'll consider Melty Blood HD, but Type-Moon's side thinks it's too soon? [Not sure about this one.]

And lastly there'll be a full report in Arcadia.
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 06, 2011, 05:20:21 AM
Not a bad amount of information dropped, though a lot less visuals than I expected (so far at least).  Thanks for the update Erkz, +heat to you.

I'm honestly surprised about the melty news.  More new characters?  That's pretty absurd.  It's also absurd(ly awesome) that they're upgrading all CC cabs for free.  Powered Ciel makes me curious if she'll be toned down and playable or just boss only shenanigans.  I'm happy that they're interested in upgrading it to HD as well though, tbh.  The chances that it'll see a port to current gen systems is higher with that, which makes it more likely to revive and spread the US scene.  This, in turn, makes me happy that Melty's not coming to a close with the new IP they're dropping, which then makes me hope that Inbirth (lol, french bread names) is not like Melty in terms of mechanics.  It'd be rather silly to make a game that directly competes with your other active title after all.
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Post by: It is a mystery. on February 06, 2011, 05:34:33 AM
I like those character designs, sorta Disgaea-ish i think.

Heat for Erkz
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Post by: LivingShadow on February 06, 2011, 05:48:27 AM
Hmm, there's potential there. I'll wait for more info before deciding.
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Post by: fiendmaw on February 06, 2011, 06:13:24 AM
I'm a slowpoke,where can I find those 2 screenshots.
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 06, 2011, 06:19:45 AM
Hmm, very nice looking. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: Vecayse on February 06, 2011, 07:18:46 AM
Thanks for all the info man. The chars for the new game look alright, I guess I'll wait for more images.

I really do wish they go HD with the new MB and they release it on 360/PS3..
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Post by: Chie Satonaka on February 06, 2011, 07:39:29 AM
Well Arcana it's been real...

Seriously, as hype as I am for the new CC update (Powered Ciel, let's get it in!) I'm a bit more hype about this new IP. Hopefully it'll be decent.
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Post by: caiooa on February 06, 2011, 07:55:33 AM
hope the 4 button control scheme isn't a, b, c, shield. But very hyped about both the new ip and the melty announce. +heat for Erkz
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Post by: Tonberry on February 06, 2011, 08:36:58 AM
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
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Post by: LivingShadow on February 06, 2011, 09:32:53 AM
For those who don't remember here's a blown up version of the character concepts thrown up earlier.
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Post by: Komidol on February 06, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
Not a bad amount of information dropped, though a lot less visuals than I expected (so far at least).  Thanks for the update Erkz, +heat to you.

I'm honestly surprised about the melty news.  More new characters?  That's pretty absurd.  It's also absurd(ly awesome) that they're upgrading all CC cabs for free.  Powered Ciel makes me curious if she'll be toned down and playable or just boss only shenanigans.  I'm happy that they're interested in upgrading it to HD as well though, tbh.  The chances that it'll see a port to current gen systems is higher with that, which makes it more likely to revive and spread the US scene.  This, in turn, makes me happy that Melty's not coming to a close with the new IP they're dropping, which then makes me hope that Inbirth (lol, french bread names) is not like Melty in terms of mechanics.  It'd be rather silly to make a game that directly competes with your other active title after all.

+Heat for Erkz as well.

The fact that there will be another new version before a console port makes me laugh because all the theory fighting about Current Code is basically all useless since America, out side of those 3 or so cabs, will never see it.  To be honest I kind of expected this (even if we got a PS2 port of current code, there would probably be more balance changes anyway, so no matter how you look at it, there will be enough balance changes before America ever plays on console). 

I was kinda hype for this new fighter but the art style doesn't tickle my fancy.  People can argue that graphics in a game don't matter - but that can make a big difference if you're going to be staring at a screen at the same game for days, nights, weekends on end.  Maybe there will be a fun character.
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 06, 2011, 11:02:29 AM
Well Arcana it's been real...

I :laffo:'d. But it will definitely be that for me too by the time Under Night comes out.
 
hope the 4 button control scheme isn't a, b, c, shield. But very hyped about both the new ip and the melty announce. +heat for Erkz

Well, it's very likely going to be a, b, c and (game-play specific button), even if it's not necessarily shield any more. But it does look like that since MB isn't going any where any time soon, that's all the more reason to think that UN may try something else.

But hey, after putting in the time with QOH and MB, FB finally gets to put out a fighting game franchise that's truly theirs. They've truly come a long way as Indy dev.
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Post by: ehrik on February 06, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
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Post by: arvy on February 06, 2011, 11:59:24 AM
I gotta say I'm hyped... Two announcements sounds promising. I'm still hoping for that Melty port to Ps3.
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Post by: Chie Satonaka on February 06, 2011, 12:00:57 PM
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!

What a thing to say during BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

BLACK

HISTORY

MONTH

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Rei on February 06, 2011, 12:40:30 PM
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
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Post by: Komidol on February 06, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
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Post by: Erkz on February 06, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
A picture of the two screenshots mentioned earlier. (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/neo-erkz/236843636.jpg) Best I could find at the moment.

Also,
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 06, 2011, 05:28:14 PM
+HEAT Erkz

(http://googlejohnmappin.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/so_much_win.png)

Im loving that character art for the new IP.
You kno Ecole will make it stylish as all hell. Under Night?
Sick shit. I cant wait to find out wth that means.

But the best news? They're not abandoning MELTY (yet)  :toot:
Fingers crossed for a PS3 port.

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Post by: arvy on February 06, 2011, 05:40:57 PM
A picture of the two screenshots mentioned earlier. (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/neo-erkz/236843636.jpg) Best I could find at the moment.

Also,
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!

Thanks so much Erkz.
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Post by: Cristu on February 06, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
powered Ciel is one of the two new characters? or just another boss?

I would be mad at them if they add powered Ciel as a playable not broken character and not Dark Elesia :0

+heat Erkz
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Post by: WYVERN LORD on February 06, 2011, 05:59:14 PM
Under Night?
Sick shit. I cant wait to find out wth that means.
too bad you never will, literary scholars at oxford have been struggling with the meaning of mbaa for decades and have yet to formulate a conclusive thesis

anyway new game will be good, melty is not dead so faggots better keep playing yadda yadda
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Post by: F9|Chibi on February 06, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
Powered Ciel?

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

More Melty is always good tho~
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Post by: Komidol on February 06, 2011, 06:40:17 PM
FUCK

They were suppose to pick Magical Amber as a new character.  They fucked up!  :gonk:
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Post by: papagaio on February 06, 2011, 07:17:43 PM
If this update reveal SHIKI as new character, I'll main him anyway. F**k tier list!
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Post by: Espard on February 06, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
A picture of the two screenshots mentioned earlier. (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/neo-erkz/236843636.jpg) Best I could find at the moment.

Also,
Unreal BLACK THINGS, get hype!
Is the char in the bottom right screeny SHIKI? Top left is Powered Ciel?  Or am I going off on a tangent and just hoping for these chars  :emo:
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Post by: ehrik on February 06, 2011, 10:02:19 PM
http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20110207001/

Powered ciel better screen and give birth screens
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Post by: scottind on February 06, 2011, 10:14:07 PM
if anyone in socal wants to pull money together to buy UNIB, i have a vewlix that can house it for free play and combo videos and etc
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 06, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
Seems like Powered Ciel's a valid character. If she's a boss, she'd be Eclipse Moon like the rest of the bosses, but the screens show C-Moon.
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Post by: Light on February 06, 2011, 11:13:30 PM
UNIB: Are those sprites or 3D? 
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 06, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
UNIB: Are those sprites or 3D? 

Looks like sprites to me. And not pixelated either, huzzah! ;D

Really liking the looks of UN thus far.
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 06, 2011, 11:39:43 PM
UNIB is hd sprites.

Also, this just in - the battle on communal naming has ended surprisingly quickly.  It's already basically universally known as UNIB at this point.  No inbirth or under night or uni.  This bitch is just UNIB.

Edit:  SITE'S UP!  http://inbirth.info/
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Post by: Rowanism on February 07, 2011, 12:30:03 AM
This fetuspuncher (© bellreisa) looks like it got pretty much style and some new camera dynamics. I wonder how it will look in motion.
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 07, 2011, 12:53:59 AM
Fetuspuncher is also acceptable I think, but UNIB is the standard.  I can't wait to see more.  I hope that the fourth button is not a parry, but rather something different and interesting.  There's also some speculation on whether the environment is 3d or very good 2d.  I look forward to seeing more on the game, for sure.

Also, for little more explained of what all was said >> http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/07/french_bread_fighter/
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Post by: fiendmaw on February 07, 2011, 04:10:22 AM
This fetuspuncher (© bellreisa) looks like it got pretty much style and some new camera dynamics. I wonder how it will look in motion.
I'm sorry,but I said fetuspuncher first,the credit should go to me and me only.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 07, 2011, 10:47:36 AM
UNIB sounds like a government orginization :emo: ...fetuspuncher it is.
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Post by: 3IIIT on February 07, 2011, 10:58:23 AM
UNIB sounds like a government orginization :emo: ...fetuspuncher it is.


Nah, if anything UNIB reminds me more of UNIX. Much like UNIX, UNIB definitely won't have that mainstream appeal, but will likely be quite rewarding for those who delve into it.

Or something like that.  :psyduck:

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Post by: Erkz on February 08, 2011, 01:01:19 AM
Trailer. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1297145123)
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Post by: Rei on February 08, 2011, 01:16:55 AM
Trailer. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1297145123)
upp'd to youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWaI87q2Fsg

edit: reupped high quality version :)
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Post by: Erkz on February 08, 2011, 01:44:46 AM
Oh yeah, and for anyone wondering:

"Why is it pronounced 'inverse' and not 'inbirth'?"
"'`,、('∀`)'`,、"

Another mystery solved.

The actual answer was something along the lines of "inverse sounds cooler." (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110208/1297151358)
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Post by: LoliSauce on February 08, 2011, 05:41:41 AM
Oh yeah, and for anyone wondering:

"Why is it pronounced 'inverse' and not 'inbirth'?"
"'`,、('∀`)'`,、"

Another mystery solved.

The actual answer was something along the lines of "inverse sounds cooler." (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110208/1297151358)
Well, the kana is the same for both, and inverse is the only one that's actually a coherent word.  Sometimes I wonder if French Bread is actively trying to make their titles as horribly confusing and nonsensical as possible.

Comments on the video:
1. WOW THE NORMALS ARE ALL FUCKING HUGE
2. Linne is ryougi lol
3. I didn't see any double jump+airdash
4. Wow, the normals really are all fucking huge
5. Actually the stage and attacks are equally large, so maybe it's just the characters are just small (minus Berserker guy)

Overall pretty hype video.  I'm more excited to see how it develops than I was previously, and I was pretty excited initially.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: WYVERN LORD on February 08, 2011, 06:50:19 AM
Characters are all stylin', especially Carmine, Linne looks way too fun to be Ryougi, game speed seems pretty fast, am eagerly awaiting a console release in a year and a half
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Post by: It is a mystery. on February 08, 2011, 07:07:23 AM
Carmine, bitch is mah main.

Edit: Need to find a Carmine avatar now....
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Post by: Rowanism on February 08, 2011, 07:36:03 AM
Needs more characters, but yeah. Nice find. Thanks!
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Post by: ToastCrust on February 08, 2011, 08:01:56 AM
Oh boy oh boy! Modern weapon fighter ^_^ I wonder if it'll feel like a more mobile LB or SS.

Dat short hop

if anyone in socal wants to pull money together to buy UNIB, i have a vewlix that can house it for free play and combo videos and etc
Isn't UNIB run on NESICA? Have people figured ways around it, or are you planning to just tank the cost of the subscription too or w/e?

I never did follow BBCSII closely enough to find out how NESICA actually ended up working out on the operator side.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 08, 2011, 08:44:22 AM
The Professor over at MMCafe has one last detail that has seemingly escaped most other outlets from the original story.

Quote from: Professor
...Game was originally just a joke concept but it became a real project after Tsukihime writer Kinoko saw it. The article is vague about whether Kinoko is actually involved in its development.

- http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/bbs/messages/13231.shtml#55359

Interesting that this game seems to be right on the heels of its predecessor, right down to having its roots in being a gag. ;D

Any way, loving that this looks to be a more of a weapons-based fighter. And now, the painful wait 'til we get more information...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 08, 2011, 09:36:48 AM
The Professor over at MMCafe has one last detail that has seemingly escaped most other outlets from the original story.

Quote from: Professor
...Game was originally just a joke concept but it became a real project after Tsukihime writer Kinoko saw it. The article is vague about whether Kinoko is actually involved in its development.

- http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/bbs/messages/13231.shtml#55359

Interesting that this game seems to be right on the heels of its predecessor, right down to having its roots in being a gag. ;D

Any way, loving that this looks to be a more of a weapons-based fighter. And now, the painful wait 'til we get more information...
I heard that detail was an elaborate troll attempt, not that it really matters either way.  The game sure isn't a joke at this point. 

Personally, I can't wait to see what the other chars will end up like.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 08, 2011, 09:57:18 AM
Isn't UNIB run on NESICA? Have people figured ways around it, or are you planning to just tank the cost of the subscription too or w/e?
They have not said the platform that the game is on but it's rather unlikely that it's using NESICA.... Ecole mainly deals with Sega Borads, so the likelihood that it's on the Ring-series than the ever popular Taito Type X^2 is rather high, and French Bread still works with Ecole.
That said, the Ring-series (the low end Ringwide, the high end RingEdge) does happen to have something similar to Taito's Nesicaxlive. Sega's ALL.net... wikipedia have more details on it, I think.

That said, September will likely shed some light on that detail of the platform that UNIB is on since it's being shown at the JAMMA convention. It would be a good time to see what has happened from this point at that time.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on February 08, 2011, 10:28:32 AM
Oh, my bad. Aquapazza is the Nesica title.

So many fighter announcements, they're mixing up in my head :|
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 7thfonon on February 08, 2011, 10:59:08 AM
I like how fast paced this game looks. And looks like they do have air dashes or at least something similar (0:34, looks too low for a super jump...).
Wanna see more of this game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 08, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
Linne looks way too fun to be ryougi like jimmy said


also SCYTHEMAN

music is good <3
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Zaelar on February 08, 2011, 02:14:05 PM
Looks like melty blood meets guilty gear.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rei on February 08, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
Lolisauce, there was what looked like reverse beating AND airdash in the video...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Light on February 08, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
Can't think of much to say but it looks pretty ill.

Lolisauce, there was what looked like reverse beating AND airdash in the video...

Yeah, looks like it @ 0:27.


Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 08, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
Oh, my bad. Aquapazza is the Nesica title.

So many fighter announcements, they're mixing up in my head :|
Yeah, I know... But too be honest, I would keep an eye on ALL.net
Sega has expressed an interest in reviving Arcades on a global level, ALL.net and the Ring-series is a part of that.
Lolisauce, there was what looked like reverse beating AND airdash in the video...
If that is the case, I didn't notice an indicator for the reverse beat...
Still my question, what is that middle gauge for?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rei on February 08, 2011, 03:57:32 PM
Oh, my bad. Aquapazza is the Nesica title.

So many fighter announcements, they're mixing up in my head :|
Yeah, I know... But too be honest, I would keep an eye on ALL.net
Sega has expressed an interest in reviving Arcades on a global level, ALL.net and the Ring-series is a part of that.
Lolisauce, there was what looked like reverse beating AND airdash in the video...
If that is the case, I didn't notice an indicator for the reverse beat...
Still my question, what is that middle gauge for?

look at the first non-zoomed in sequence. slash slash poke and it looks like he did a 2A afterwards
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on February 08, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
Nice TheoryCrafting hype that will lead to nowhere thread we got going so far  :nyoro:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 08, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
 :slowpoke:...some of the defense effects are yellow and not blue, sugesting a ex-guard system similar to mbaa. It still looks strange to me a meter going to the max of 200% even with half moon's melty blood characters been exactly like this, but maybe it's because i have played sfalpha too much. And i dunno what that thing in the center of the bottom of the screen is for, but it looks like sometimes one or two of those things go off, and sometimes they change color.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 08, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
Linne looks sooo sexy to play...that combo at 0:58? OMG.
Im HYPE. So HYPE.
And the music....  :toot:

Well, im happy. Especially if it comes to consoles.

And i dunno what that thing in the center of the bottom of the screen is for, but it looks like sometimes one or two of those things go off, and sometimes they change color.

Yea I was wondering about that too...it looks like P1 has a red bar and P2 is blue, but at 1:23 you can see that P2's bar crosses over into P1's...so idk. Nvr seen anything like that b4.... I was thinking some kind of shared meter...?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 08, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I don't think those are airdashes you see. Those look more like superjumps, with the dust-cloud effects on the ground. A new kind of superjump that's low to the ground to take the place of IADs? Looks nice though.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on February 08, 2011, 06:48:19 PM
I think no universal air dash/double jump would be fun. It'd be like a Japanese KoF.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 7thfonon on February 08, 2011, 08:57:35 PM
I think no universal air dash/double jump would be fun. It'd be like a Japanese KoF.

SNK is Japanese   :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on February 09, 2011, 01:48:31 AM
I think no universal air dash/double jump would be fun. It'd be like a Japanese KoF.
*mind explodes*

But yeah, that looks like a super short hop.

Since this is a weapon fighter though, I'd relate it more to the SNK weapon fighters like SamSho or Last Blade, lol. They even have the token HUGE monster-esque guy.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 09, 2011, 05:23:07 AM
Nice TheoryCrafting hype that will lead to nowhere thread we got going so far  :nyoro:
Don't shit on our hype Roku.  No reason to bring people down when we're all excited and having fun.  Don't be that guy.


I think no universal air dash/double jump would be fun. It'd be like a Japanese KoF.

SNK is Japanese   :V
Yeah, but look at the art style of KoF.  It's clearly not anime/Japanese.  That's what he was referring to.

On the subject of double jumps and air dashes, I will be legitimately excited if they branch away from the standard "anime fighter" type of aerial movement.  Not that I don't like the immense aerial options in Melty, but rather I want to see something different from Melty in this game.  Hopefully the majority of the full cast will be available for our viewing pleasure when the September exhibition comes around. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 09, 2011, 09:25:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9DswepO_0
This is how the new game will be like
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6449/imagem1vt.png)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7504/imagem2kz.png)
...can't unsee your epic yomi
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 09, 2011, 09:42:12 AM
But yeah, that looks like a super short hop.

Since this is a weapon fighter though, I'd relate it more to the SNK weapon fighters like SamSho or Last Blade, lol. They even have the token HUGE monster-esque guy.

The overall look and pacing of the game definitely does a lot to remind me of Last Blade, certainly. Right down to how main hero-boy Hyde looks a bit like (Awakened) Kaede.  ;D

But yeah, I agree with L-Sauce. The more that this game does more to be its own beast, not only from MB, but from everything else on the market, the better. And if the game truly does have a SNK "feel", with its short hops and rolls among possibly others, that would make me immensely pleased.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on February 09, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Why does Hyde's clothes look like a mixture of Persona 3 and 4's school uniform? And some influence from Gilgamesh's regular clothes.

And why does it look so good?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 09, 2011, 12:51:25 PM
Hyde's character design IS da sexiness...can't deny.
TBH the others...well Linne in particular, looks really kinda plain compared to him...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 09, 2011, 04:00:20 PM
I don't mind the plain style, that's actually one of the reasons I picked melty in the first place.

Lynne looks fun to play. Just tell me what the command is for that sideswitch roll and I will definitely play that character.

I should also point out that there's a meter at the bottom of the screen labeled "Seed"
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Komidol on February 09, 2011, 04:26:03 PM
Picking whoever has the best 5C.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 09, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
TBH the others...well Linne in particular, looks really kinda plain compared to him...
Yeah, she does... but something in that design attracts me to her. Something about how see seems plain and normal, yet that seems like a façade.
Something in the unseen that makes her interesting.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: c001357 on February 10, 2011, 12:24:32 AM
TBH the others...well Linne in particular, looks really kinda plain compared to him...
Yeah, she does... but something in that design attracts me to her. Something about how see seems plain and normal, yet that seems like a façade.
Something in the unseen that makes her interesting.


you mean a dick?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on February 10, 2011, 01:20:27 AM
Yeah, but look at the art style of KoF.  It's clearly not anime/Japanese.  That's what he was referring to.
Considering KoF has gone through a ton of artists, I can't say I know which one you're referring to.

The one they had when they were under Eolith? I mean, predictably, everything looked more Korean when they became a subsidy of a Korean company, but that was a pretty temporary phrase compared to everything else, lol.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 10, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
idc if it's mugen with mbaa engine as long as nero's in it
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6308/blackbeastmagicloli.png)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7756/imagem3lu.png)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4686/imagemgf.png)
Well..it looks like there's a black beast in the cast  :fap:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on February 10, 2011, 07:20:39 AM
That Black Thing...so Unreal.  :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 10, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
idc if it's mugen with mbaa engine as long as nero's in it
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7756/imagem3lu.png)
Well..it looks like there's a black beast in the cast  :fap:
Hey, that unreal black thing has TRON lights!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: MasterT on February 10, 2011, 09:57:55 AM
Nrvnqsr Hakutron
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Vecayse on February 10, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
^ Someone had to say it. We were all thinking it
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 11, 2011, 01:32:13 AM
Nrvnqsr Hakutron
got to beat "that hateful BlazBlue."  :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Tonberry on February 11, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
Picking whoever has the best 5C.

That's not going to save you if that character is high execution   :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 11, 2011, 12:37:38 PM
That's not going to save you if that character is high execution   :laffo:
Does that save anyone when a character is that demanding?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Komidol on February 11, 2011, 03:20:11 PM
Picking whoever has the best 5C.

That's not going to save you if that character is high execution   :laffo:

>Implying I can't learn a character with high execution  :V

Though all the complete characters look dumb...I want to play one of the characters they show in the art design.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Tonberry on February 11, 2011, 04:07:03 PM
That's not going to save you if that character is high execution   :laffo:
Does that save anyone when a character is that demanding?

Sure.  You don't have to be smart to have good execution.  A dumb person with good execution would obviously be greatly assisted by any move that they can throw out without having to think very much about throwing it out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 11, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
That's not going to save you if that character is high execution   :laffo:
Does that save anyone when a character is that demanding?

Sure.  You don't have to be smart to have good execution.  A dumb person with good execution would obviously be greatly assisted by any move that they can throw out without having to think very much about throwing it out.

*suddenly feels paranoid*
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 11, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Justneedwara
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: It is a mystery. on February 12, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
Why does Hyde's clothes look like a mixture of Persona 3 and 4's school uniform? And some influence from Gilgamesh's regular clothes.

And why does it look so good?
Hyde is Salvatore's long lost brother.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 12, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
just throwing here another oficial site for unib that can become a source of information in the future
http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/uni.htm (http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/uni.htm)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: yui on February 12, 2011, 04:20:15 PM
carmine looks cool. like motw freeman with tohno SHIKI blood powers.
maybe that means the summer mbaacc update character is CAPSLOCK-kun afterall.

and lolololol waldstein looks like megaman battle network's version of slashman
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 12, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
and lolololol waldstein looks like megaman battle network's version of slashman

You are going to see him related to Heisen-ko, ALOT....
Might not help the marvel players if (and when) play him, but visually... that is what they will identify with.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 14, 2011, 04:38:16 AM
i'm not a moonspeaker..don't know if this is good or bad
http://hydragp.info/archives/1677 (http://hydragp.info/archives/1677)
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110214 (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110214)
http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012873/20110214038/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012873/20110214038/)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 14, 2011, 09:31:44 AM
It's... neutral?

Apparently Ecole's hosting a Hisoutensoku tournament.

The middle link seems to be the most interesting of the three, as it mentions Inbirth and Melty. And this month's Arcadia.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 14, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
and lolololol waldstein looks like megaman battle network's version of slashman

Speaking of Waldenstein, Ive got more speculation.
Did anybody not find the enormous range of his grab at 0:38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1eFpH_6ReWo#t=37s) a little bit alarming?
Idk how useful grabs will be in fetuspuncher compared to melty...but holy crap look at the range of it.
I hope the startup/recovery will be just as big...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on February 14, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
More like a command grab.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: WYVERN LORD on February 14, 2011, 10:10:07 AM
Did anybody not find the enormous range of his grab at 0:38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1eFpH_6ReWo#t=37s) a little bit alarming
long-range command grabs are nothing new, it's a little early to get alarmed
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on February 14, 2011, 01:25:47 PM
Especially with how fast and low people seem to be able jump.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 15, 2011, 10:47:54 AM
and lolololol waldstein looks like megaman battle network's version of slashman

Speaking of Waldenstein, Ive got more speculation.
Did anybody not find the enormous range of his grab at 0:38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1eFpH_6ReWo#t=37s) a little bit alarming?
Idk how useful grabs will be in fetuspuncher compared to melty...but holy crap look at the range of it.
I hope the startup/recovery will be just as big...
It could be a grab with a very specific distance it hits.  In other words, if they're too close (inside his arm span) it wouldn't hit or something along those lines.  Just because a move is a grab doesn't mean it has to be point blank.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 15, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
I guess. I mean either way, jimm- WYVERN LORD is right, theres still alot of time b4 the game's release so its nothing to freak out about either way. It might not even show up.

But yea, its prbly a command grab, that makes more sense than a normal.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 18, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
So the big question is, what else do we expect from this game at this point?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on February 18, 2011, 10:28:50 PM
Maids.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: papagaio on February 18, 2011, 11:16:13 PM
So the big question is, what else do we expect from this game at this point?

The function of that 4th button

This game > KOF

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 19, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
So the big question is, what else do we expect from this game at this point?

A badass character with a scythe. I wanna see wth he does.

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 19, 2011, 10:07:26 AM
So the big question is, what else do we expect from this game at this point?

Discover just how unreal that black thing is. ;D
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 19, 2011, 10:10:12 AM
Discover just how unreal that black thing is. ;D

 :mystery:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 19, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
I want to know what that Seed meter does.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on February 19, 2011, 10:53:44 AM
Speculation go.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on February 19, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
Speculation go.

I'll only let you get away with this because your avatar is godlike.

Mind showing me where you got it from?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on February 19, 2011, 03:43:12 PM
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post?tags=nanaya_shiki&commit=Search
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 19, 2011, 05:20:44 PM
Maids.
Really? :slowpoke:
I want to know what that Seed meter does.
You and me both, that is something of a mystery.

Speculation go.


What else do we do till september?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 27, 2011, 12:03:22 PM
:mystery:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110227
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 27, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
So, if I'm inferring correctly...FB's new game will actually be on the NESiCA this time?

If true, it would definitely be another sign of the times, since few arcade devs want to invest in PCBs that may just sit some place and not sell. On the other hand, that would also mean that there would literally be no hope of those of us in the West being able to play this game until it comes to a console...  :'(
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 27, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
Why, is Nesica some sort of digital distribution thing?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 27, 2011, 07:08:37 PM
So, if I'm inferring correctly...FB's new game will actually be on the NESiCA this time?

If true, it would definitely be another sign of the times, since few arcade devs want to invest in PCBs that may just sit some place and not sell. On the other hand, that would also mean that there would literally be no hope of those of us in the West being able to play this game until it comes to a console...  :'(

Quote from: Narita
一応セガ派閥としてはRINGWIDEで考えており、重すぎればRINGEDGE使わせろヽ(`Д´)ノと駄々こねているのですが、状況によっては、TypeX(NESiCAxLive)行きも考えていたりはします。

Quote from: Paraphrase
Sega, give us a RINGEDGE or we'll put the game on TypeX (NESiCAxLive). ヽ(`Д´)ノ

I don't think Narita was actually being serious.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 27, 2011, 07:55:05 PM
Why, is Nesica some sort of digital distribution thing?

Pretty much, yeah. The good thing is, it eliminates the cost of manufacturing and shipping when it comes to getting your games in arcades. Of course, on the other hand, if your game is only available on Nesica, you're limited to the coverage that service allows.

I don't think Narita was actually being serious.

I dunno, man. After all, let's not forget that a good number of Watanabe/FB's "jokes" ended up being what actually occurred.  ;D

But seriously, a lot of the arcade trends right now are pointing to how developers are rallying to the tune of Taito's Nesica. BBCSII is on the service. SNK has put another rendition of the UM KOF games on the service. Even Examu is opting to use it for their upcoming Aquapazza, and it has everything to do with how it's a nice cost-cutting option, while still getting a good deal of distribution around Japanese arcades. 

So, it may be innocent "jest" for now, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if there's more to it. Chances are, if Sega is not willing to play ball and make them a compelling offer, then FB will likely be left with little choice but go Nesica as well, like a number of their rivals already are.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on March 01, 2011, 11:02:54 PM
Powerd Ciel Location Testing from March 5th to March 10th. (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/03/02/melty_blood_new_character/)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: yui on March 02, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Powerd Ciel Location Testing from March 5th to March 10th. (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/03/02/melty_blood_new_character/)

*barely resisting sudden urge to get hype for silly character*
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on March 02, 2011, 10:18:33 AM
Powerd :psyduck:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on March 02, 2011, 05:48:50 PM
More like GET HYPE FOR THIS
(http://www.andriasang.com/blog/2011/03/02/melty_blood_new_character/images/2132441796_view.jpg)

WHAT DOES ALL THIS HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH UNIB?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 02, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
Pretty much, yeah. The good thing is, it eliminates the cost of manufacturing and shipping when it comes to getting your games in arcades. Of course, on the other hand, if your game is only available on Nesica, you're limited to the coverage that service allows.
It is another downside, in that before Nesica or ALL... 100 yen in the cab was 100 yen pre play. That is not longer the case, both Sega (with ALL.net) and Taito (with Nesicalive) will have a percentage of every coin in the cab. It makes the risk factors higher for developers since, simple put, games really can't afford to flop in such a market. Sega and Taito would have something to say about a failure directly.


Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rei on March 03, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Powerd :psyduck:

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on March 05, 2011, 08:48:30 AM
French Bread attempting to livestream stuff. (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13105419)  :slowpoke:

Supposedly they stream some Melty and talk about UNIB. [Or at least, that's what they said on their blog. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110305/1299322523)]
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 05, 2011, 09:29:17 AM
There's footage for a new char for UNIB in there. Looks like it's a combination of Wara and team style summons.

My guess is that seed looks like some kind of cancel command.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on March 05, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
Stream over? Any recordings?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 05, 2011, 04:07:23 PM
Stream over? Any recordings?
The link he gave was the recorded stream archive.

Edit:
Okay so the new unib char looks like blue akiha with a rapier.  She might be in a nun outfit, kind of hard to tell.  Her attacks have the smallest range of anyone shown so far, but she has a crazy amount of movement in them, so she kind of flies around the screen with her specials.  Also, she has a jojo's-style stand she can summon out.  He looks fucking awesome like some kind of big ass knight with a huge sword.  It didn't really do much, but seems like you can enter commands to have it attack and whatnot.  It generally follows the girl around the screen.  It's attacks are appropriately huge to the rest of the cast's shit.

Still no sign of double jumps or air dashes, from what I could tell.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on March 05, 2011, 05:41:19 PM
Doesn't work for me, but I found another record which did.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 06, 2011, 11:23:52 PM

The link he gave was the recorded stream archive.
If not that, it on the youtubz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q85ktvZrNw) on this point.
Quote
Edit:
Okay so the new unib char looks like blue akiha with a rapier.  She might be in a nun outfit, kind of hard to tell.  Her attacks have the smallest range of anyone shown so far, but she has a crazy amount of movement in them, so she kind of flies around the screen with her specials.  Also, she has a jojo's-style stand she can summon out.  He looks fucking awesome like some kind of big ass knight with a huge sword.  It didn't really do much, but seems like you can enter commands to have it attack and whatnot.  It generally follows the girl around the screen.  It's attacks are appropriately huge to the rest of the cast's shit.

Still no sign of double jumps or air dashes, from what I could tell.
I am really liking that movement she has... the design itself isn't much, but I can't say much with the fuzzycam. I get the sense that she might be more complex than she seems with the "stand" work. I am kind of disappointed with the "stand" itself, was kind of hoping for more animation when idle, but he seems to be stiff and float around as it follows the girl.

Still looking at Hyde as "the character" for me.... something about dem pokes.
That said, anything mentioned about the Seed system? :prinny:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 07, 2011, 05:43:53 AM
I am really liking that movement she has... the design itself isn't much, but I can't say much with the fuzzycam. I get the sense that she might be more complex than she seems with the "stand" work. I am kind of disappointed with the "stand" itself, was kind of hoping for more animation when idle, but he seems to be stiff and float around as it follows the girl.
Yeah, I' was kind of disappointed at the lack of stand commands shown.  She only had it do a pretty basic looking slash attack a couple of times.  With how she can cross through opponents with that rapier dash though, it makes me wonder if she will be able to do silly combo or block strings hitting the opponent back and forth between herself and the stand.

That said, anything mentioned about the Seed system? :prinny:
Not that I'm really able to understand much, but I dont remember actually hearing any direct mention of the term.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on March 07, 2011, 04:37:18 PM
I am really liking that movement she has... the design itself isn't much, but I can't say much with the fuzzycam. I get the sense that she might be more complex than she seems with the "stand" work. I am kind of disappointed with the "stand" itself, was kind of hoping for more animation when idle, but he seems to be stiff and float around as it follows the girl.
Yeah, I' was kind of disappointed at the lack of stand commands shown.  She only had it do a pretty basic looking slash attack a couple of times.  With how she can cross through opponents with that rapier dash though, it makes me wonder if she will be able to do silly combo or block strings hitting the opponent back and forth between herself and the stand.

Like Carl from BB? Thatd b sexy.
I'm a little disappointed that he's probably gonna be all commands tho...
Itd be awesome if all of his moves were attached to one button, (ie btn1 controls stand, bttns 2,3,4 control ms. rapier) so itd feel more like controlling two chars.
But then again...itd be just like BB, lol.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 07, 2011, 08:54:06 PM
Well, we still don't know what the fourth button is used for, so I guess it's a possibility.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ShinMasaki on March 08, 2011, 01:24:53 AM
Well, we still don't know what the fourth button is used for, so I guess it's a possibility.

X-Factor, because that makes every game a winner
Taunt, because every character needs a taunt
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on March 08, 2011, 01:43:16 AM
I am really liking that movement she has... the design itself isn't much, but I can't say much with the fuzzycam. I get the sense that she might be more complex than she seems with the "stand" work. I am kind of disappointed with the "stand" itself, was kind of hoping for more animation when idle, but he seems to be stiff and float around as it follows the girl.
Yeah, I' was kind of disappointed at the lack of stand commands shown.  She only had it do a pretty basic looking slash attack a couple of times.  With how she can cross through opponents with that rapier dash though, it makes me wonder if she will be able to do silly combo or block strings hitting the opponent back and forth between herself and the stand.

Like Carl from BB? Thatd b sexy.
I'm a little disappointed that he's probably gonna be all commands tho...
Itd be awesome if all of his moves were attached to one button, (ie btn1 controls stand, bttns 2,3,4 control ms. rapier) so itd feel more like controlling two chars.
But then again...itd be just like BB, lol.
Implementing a 'character-specific' button like the D button in BB would be pretty good.(that hateful)BB has alot of great ideas...like they say,fight fire with fire.  :psyduck: :teach:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on March 09, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
Implementing a 'character-specific' button like the D button in BB would be pretty good.(that hateful)BB has alot of great ideas...like they say,fight fire with fire.  :psyduck: :teach:

Why the hell not? BB has Tsubaki, who plays like...every Melty character...ever.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on March 09, 2011, 03:02:08 PM
Implementing a 'character-specific' button like the D button in BB would be pretty good.(that hateful)BB has alot of great ideas...like they say,fight fire with fire.  :psyduck: :teach:

Why the hell not? BB has Tsubaki, who plays like...every Melty character...ever.
No she doesn't. :toot:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on March 09, 2011, 07:53:54 PM
Implementing a 'character-specific' button like the D button in BB would be pretty good.(that hateful)BB has alot of great ideas...like they say,fight fire with fire.  :psyduck: :teach:

Why the hell not? BB has Tsubaki, who plays like...every Melty character...ever.
No she doesn't. :toot:

Prior to MBAA, Im talking about her commands.
Just.
Her commands.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 09, 2011, 08:45:36 PM
Yeah, I' was kind of disappointed at the lack of stand commands shown.  She only had it do a pretty basic looking slash attack a couple of times.  With how she can cross through opponents with that rapier dash though, it makes me wonder if she will be able to do silly combo or block strings hitting the opponent back and forth between herself and the stand.
Well, I wasn't expecting much out of this preview. This is not like FB was releasing "assets" like Capcom did(and keeps doing) with Marvel 3, so to have many unknowns behind the veil is expected for them showing off one character.
That said, I am expecting something more of a development bubble with UNIB till Sept... this could be the only think that we hear about the game for a while.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on March 10, 2011, 02:02:29 PM
Implementing a 'character-specific' button like the D button in BB would be pretty good.(that hateful)BB has alot of great ideas...like they say,fight fire with fire.  :psyduck: :teach:

I dunno, it could certainly work, but I'm hoping that FB will introduce some thing a bit different that will work towards their own ends and may actually stand to be a bit unique.

After all, as long as these "3+1" button schemes are going to be the standard operating scheme for most of these games out there now, we should hope that does more interesting things to be done with it. Something relating to that Seed gauge? I dunno...  :slowpoke:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on March 11, 2011, 12:07:06 PM
After all, as long as these "3+1" button schemes are going to be the standard operating scheme for most of these games out there now, we should hope that does more interesting things to be done with it. Something relating to that Seed gauge? I dunno... 

That's actually...more than likely...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on March 11, 2011, 12:39:39 PM
That's actually...more than likely...

Well, whatever happens, I hope it's all good. On that note, I'm hoping FB is all good too. Haven't heard from them yet on Twitter yet...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 13, 2011, 08:41:30 AM
hey, there's a new post 2 days ago in mbaacc site (http://e56.info/mbaaring/index.html (http://e56.info/mbaaring/index.html)) in the section "topics". Is there any real news there?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on March 13, 2011, 11:59:46 AM
No.

It just states that the location tests held at Club Sega, etc. ended on the 10th of March.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 7thfonon on March 13, 2011, 06:18:48 PM
So since there was a Location Test, is there any video footage besides the stream that went on a while back. It was too blurry to tell what was going on..  :/
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 14, 2011, 07:42:49 PM
No.

It just states that the location tests held at Club Sega, etc. ended on the 10th of March.
Hmmm, be nice to see what comes of that... particularly on the hardware issue.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on March 14, 2011, 08:29:01 PM
Hmmm, be nice to see what comes of that... particularly on the hardware issue.
MBAACC had a hardware issue? :psyduck:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 17, 2011, 06:56:23 AM
MBAACC had a hardware issue? :psyduck:

No, but FB has been playing games on what hardware it's going to be on. From my guess, there is nothing wrong with the Ringwide for UNIB... outside of less visual ram, in which case they could just move to RingEdge. Nothing that I have seen would suggest that they need to move to another board, and considering that programmers are creatures of habit... I doubt that FB would move away from something that they are comfortable with (assuming that they are).
And yet with all of that, FB has been tossing Tatio's TypeX^2 into the discussion for some apparent reason.


To me, I would doubt that they move away from Sega hardware unless Ecole did as a publisher. It would also make little marketing sense to have all these events in Sega-owned locations with it being produced on completing hardware.
That said, FB setting the record straight on that matter (again, like with carmine gender) would be nice to see.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 18, 2011, 09:28:44 AM
Carmine is 100% male.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 18, 2011, 12:59:22 PM
thanks for your response Erkz
Well, whatever happens, I hope it's all good. On that note, I'm hoping FB is all good too. Haven't heard from them yet on Twitter yet...
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20110318
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on March 18, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
Narita talks about how horrible the past week has been and tells everyone to do their best too.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Kattosasuponpon on March 28, 2011, 05:34:40 PM
Not too dandy from what I'm hearing about zero airdashing.  At least they're not replacing melty with this, it looks slower too.
Four buttons isn't a big deal, macro Q for MB wasn't that great anyways.
 :nyoro:

Hyped about that fabulous Carmine though.

Pretty massive poke from what I saw in the trailer.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 10, 2011, 02:41:04 PM
It just states that the location tests held at Club Sega, etc. ended on the 10th of March.

So anything seen from this? Video, more talk... anything?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on April 10, 2011, 04:01:26 PM
Not too dandy from what I'm hearing about zero airdashing.  At least they're not replacing melty with this, it looks slower too.
Four buttons isn't a big deal, macro Q for MB wasn't that great anyways.
 :nyoro:

Hyped about that fabulous Carmine though.

Pretty massive poke from what I saw in the trailer.

there is airdashing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo#t=1m10s

look at carmine closely as the screen fades to white
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on April 10, 2011, 04:07:03 PM
I see it now, I guess they just weren't using it for the most part.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 10, 2011, 08:37:38 PM
From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
- UNIB development is going favorably. They've surpassed the most difficult parts, so the rest is apparently a downhill slope. (Though after recruiting dotters from the beginning, such is to be expected.)
[ :V - Apparently.]

- Apart from Powered Ciel, they announced another character at HydraGP, which they feel that they'll be able to reveal soon. Kansai Melty players should look forward to it.
[ :V - ... huh?]

- Regarding Comiket, French Bread doesn't plan on participating from now on. Please look forward to the Circle Melon Bread around next year. (Not that we checked, but Melon Bread probably exists already, so that's no good, is it? lol)
[ :V - ... ]

- French Bread is now taking questions, comments and offering life-counselling (lol) at the following e-mail address: lisarec+fb@gmail.com
[ :V - Was that seriously an OreImo joke?]

- They should be able to hold their second livestream sometime next week.
[ :V - Assuming UST is referring to their Ustream and not that they plan to switch their clocks from JST to UST for some strange reason.]
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on April 10, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
Thank you kindly for the information Erkz!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 10, 2011, 09:40:04 PM
Yeah this information is pretty godlike
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on April 11, 2011, 07:05:36 AM
To me, the most poignant piece of information seems to point to how FB has definitely turned in their Donjon card. Understandable, with their big push to go more commercial/mainstream, but I guess that effectively closes the book on their days of developing the likes of Ragnarok Battle Offline and Glove On Fight on the PC.

Hopefully, this just points to more people being able to play their games.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rei on April 11, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
FB trying to level it up. Good shit.

And thanks Erkz for the informative post +heat
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on April 11, 2011, 02:12:07 PM
Does anyone with serious Typemoon knowledge have any recollection of a character who speaks Kansai-ben? Could be a decent clue as to who the new character is.

Even if it's a completely new character at least we know Kansai-ben will make them sound like a huge obnoxious amazing person, so it's all good.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 11, 2011, 04:02:00 PM
Does anyone with serious Typemoon knowledge have any recollection of a character who speaks Kansai-ben? Could be a decent clue as to who the new character is.

Even if it's a completely new character at least we know Kansai-ben will make them sound like a huge obnoxious amazing person, so it's all good.

What the hell is Kansai-Ben?

Sounds like another damn cameo from another series. |:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on April 11, 2011, 04:48:57 PM
It must be Kaleido-Ruby.

Kaleido-Ruby is Rin Tohsaka from Fate/Stay Night which is a part of Type-Moon and voiced by Kana Ueda from Osaka in the Kansai region of Japan.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on April 11, 2011, 05:08:37 PM
I don't think Rin was voiced with a Kansai accent though.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 11, 2011, 05:11:47 PM
Please can we have another serious non-moe male character

 :gonk: :gonk: :gonk: :gonk:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: dumba989 on April 11, 2011, 05:23:19 PM
Apparently alot of users are viewing this topic.........................
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on April 11, 2011, 06:19:58 PM
It's the scent of a new MB character that's actually a new character rather than ANOTHER version of some character already established that's drawing them all out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on April 11, 2011, 07:54:27 PM
Is it confirmed to be a new character rather than a vampire of schoolgirl version of a character not already a vampire or schoolgirl? As much as I'd like schoolgirl Chaos, if it really is a new character than I am legit excited.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on April 11, 2011, 08:04:26 PM
Does anyone with serious Typemoon knowledge have any recollection of a character who speaks Kansai-ben? Could be a decent clue as to who the new character is.

Even if it's a completely new character at least we know Kansai-ben will make them sound like a huge obnoxious amazing person, so it's all good.

What the hell is Kansai-Ben?

Sounds like another damn cameo from another series. |:

It's a different dialect of Japanese. You can equate it to something like a Southern accent if you want. They use a lot of different words and have some different verb endings.

I always thought it sounded cooler than normal Japanese.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Tonberry on April 11, 2011, 11:39:45 PM
It's the scent of a new MB character that's actually a new character rather than ANOTHER version of some character already established that's drawing them all out.

Don't get your hopes up, it's probably just VSAkiha. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Kattosasuponpon on April 12, 2011, 02:51:18 AM
Aoko was speaks with an accent in MB, even though nothing of the sort was ever in Tsukihime.  Maybe they plan to work something similar with Touko?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 12, 2011, 07:30:40 AM
Arihiko, the Tohno head, the 'True' Tohno Shiki, or Nanaya's father are all hype male choices.


....but ofc it's probably some other school girl that will be completely useless.


...Get hype?  :V :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ToastCrust on April 12, 2011, 10:28:56 AM
Via Beast's Lair

Quote from: EvoSpace
It's confusing because they forgot to translate the rest of the paragraph :P
 
Kansai Melty players should look forward to it, because they plan to show her at the HydraGP tournament held in the Kansai region.
 
Moreover, the comment about the new character from a while back was, "She who became  a normal character..." so it's most likely ArchTypeEarth/Princess Arc or Osiris...

All hype dies, please return to your regular off topic.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on April 12, 2011, 10:38:54 AM
Via Beast's Lair

Quote from: EvoSpace
It's confusing because they forgot to translate the rest of the paragraph :P
 
Kansai Melty players should look forward to it, because they plan to show her at the HydraGP tournament held in the Kansai region.
 
Moreover, the comment about the new character from a while back was, "She who became  a normal character..." so it's most likely ArchTypeEarth/Princess Arc or Osiris...

All hype dies, please return to your regular off topic.

Aww... that makes me sad.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: WYVERN LORD on April 12, 2011, 12:07:54 PM
phantasmoon!!!!!!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 12, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
Farewell possible hype real characters, hello more schoolgirl fanserive shit

.... :|
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on April 12, 2011, 12:40:36 PM
Well, maybe her playstyle will be worth it, whoever it is. Lets hope to gawd thats the case.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on April 12, 2011, 01:47:47 PM
Ah, it's almost definitely Archetype Earth. We wouldn't want all that sexy art to go to waste, right...?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on April 12, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
That sprite is too fucking pretty not to make use of.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: yui on April 12, 2011, 02:08:42 PM
phantasmoon!!!!!!
:blah: sexy art

i wish: http://img.pics.livedoor.com/007/c/f/cfc7eec9fbf67e8be67d-LL.jpg  :fap:

but it's probably non-boss dust of osion or giant akiha. fffffffff

"fuck you french bread" thread revival gogogo
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on April 12, 2011, 04:10:29 PM
if its archetype earth with a dress fighting then its worth it
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on April 12, 2011, 04:40:02 PM
Farewell possible hype real characters, hello more schoolgirl fanserive shit

.... :|

Apparently, Roku was almost spot on!
I found a picture of the character design.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v941sp.jpg
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 12, 2011, 04:45:19 PM
Farewell possible hype real characters, hello more schoolgirl fanserive shit

.... :|

Apparently, Roku was almost spot on!
I found a picture of the character design.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v941sp.jpg

At first I was mad, but then I lol'd; so I'll submit this one to you, good sir.

...I'd personally like to see Kamina's response to this picture LOL
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on April 13, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
Farewell possible hype real characters, hello more schoolgirl fanserive shit

.... :|

Apparently, Roku was almost spot on!
I found a picture of the character design.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v941sp.jpg

LOL Sefuku Kouma. He'd be broken, Ik it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 13, 2011, 05:53:30 PM
Now for something familiar.


From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
- UNIB development is going favourably. They've surpassed the most difficult parts, so the rest is apparently a downhill slope. (Though after recruiting dotters from the beginning, such is to be expected.)
[ :V - Apparently.]
Well that is a plus... Can we see another character soon.

Quote
- Regarding Comiket, French Bread doesn't plan on participating from now on. Please look forward to the Circle Melon Bread around next year. (Not that we checked, but Melon Bread probably exists already, so that's no good, is it? lol)
[ :V - ... ]
There is a time for everything, with the amount of pull they have with MB... the time to get official might be now. That said, They need a marketing team... or not, but it might help with the crowded field.

Quote
- French Bread is now taking questions, comments and offering life-counselling (lol) at the following e-mail address: lisarec+fb@gmail.com
[ :V - Was that seriously an OreImo joke?]
I would laugh to find out that that address was real.

Quote
- They should be able to hold their second livestream sometime next week.
[ :V - Assuming UST is referring to their Ustream and not that they plan to switch their clocks from JST to UST for some strange reason.]
Nice, nice... do they plan to show more of UNIB or not?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on April 14, 2011, 02:08:19 PM
If they fix C-Archetype (and keep it from being broken) I could see it being hype.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on April 14, 2011, 02:56:41 PM
If they fix C-Archetype (and keep it from being broken) I could see it being hype.

Yeah, about as hype as Evil Ryu is.


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: academico on April 15, 2011, 12:24:58 AM
Arihiko, the Tohno head, the 'True' Tohno Shiki, or Nanaya's father are all hype male choices.


....but ofc it's probably some other school girl that will be completely useless.


...Get hype?  :V :V

i want to play with him :teach:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on April 15, 2011, 01:42:13 AM
Quote from: EvoSpace
It's confusing because they forgot to translate the rest of the paragraph :P
 
Kansai Melty players should look forward to it, because they plan to show her at the HydraGP tournament held in the Kansai region.
 
Moreover, the comment about the new character from a while back was, "She who became  a normal character..." so it's most likely ArchTypeEarth/Princess Arc or Osiris...

Elesia?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: djenkov on April 28, 2011, 02:06:18 AM
Is there even a small chance that the game will be released outside of Japan?I don't mind importing it,but I would definitely like some lagless netplay.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Kamina on April 29, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Farewell possible hype real characters, hello more schoolgirl fanserive shit

.... :|

Apparently, Roku was almost spot on!
I found a picture of the character design.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v941sp.jpg
Dear god, what have you done Japan?!?! Judging by those pretty sparkles he must have super armor all day erry day, untouchable.
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Post by: Rowanism on April 30, 2011, 08:58:13 AM
He wants to shine.
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Post by: LoliSauce on May 03, 2011, 07:18:36 PM
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@acho_kyoto a-cho
【速報】明日のMBAACC5on5『月光再輝』にて、明日1日限りとなりますが、MBAACC新verが1台だけ稼動いたします。 完全武装シエルが追加されています! あと、『UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH』のPVも放映予定です!

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MBAACC5on5 'moonlight recalescence' of tomorrow being similar, it is limited to tomorrow 1 day, but MBAACC new ver works just 1. Full pack [shieru] is added! After, 'also PV of UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH' is televising schedule!

According to gameacho's twitter, something about Power Ciel and Under Night PV incoming...?

Edit: Wow I posted this in the thread I didn't intend to, whatever :psyduck:
Aren't they talking about the next web stream they had in the works?
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Post by: Erkz on May 04, 2011, 12:58:59 PM
Seems like they plan on hosting that 5on5 on an updated MB cab, one with Powerd Ciel on it. And they have plans to show a/the UNIB PV afterwards. No idea if it's a new one or the old one though.  :mystery:
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Post by: Id_asz on May 07, 2011, 10:29:15 AM
Elesia?

I was hoping for Elesia earlier, but they announced Powerd Ciel... Two new Ciels in one version of the game would be epic, though, lol.

As for the boss character that has turned into a normal character mentioned above; are you sure they're not talking about Powderd Ciel? She fits the description better than Archtype or Osiris or G-Akiha (Unless they mean GVS-Akiha  :V).

Since Elesia is out of the picture, I'm hoping for the real Shiki Tohno. That way some new player can say they play Shiki, and I can ask "Which one?" then they reply, "The male one," and I ask "Which one?" and they reply, "Shiki Tohno," and I ask "Which one?"   :slowpoke:
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Post by: ToastCrust on May 07, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
I dunno, Powdered Ciel could be a pretty fun character. Especially if she's anything like Glico brand.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on May 07, 2011, 04:08:20 PM
Since Elesia is out of the picture, I'm hoping for the real Shiki Tohno. That way some new player can say they play Shiki, and I can ask "Which one?" then they reply, "The male one," and I ask "Which one?" and they reply, "Shiki Tohno," and I ask "Which one?"   :slowpoke:

lol
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on May 07, 2011, 05:40:02 PM
Elesia?

I was hoping for Elesia earlier, but they announced Powerd Ciel... Two new Ciels in one version of the game would be epic, though, lol.

This game has four versions of Akiha, three Shikis and four Kohakus including tag team characters. I don't see why not.
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Post by: Rei on May 08, 2011, 11:07:20 AM
Elesia?

I was hoping for Elesia earlier, but they announced Powerd Ciel... Two new Ciels in one version of the game would be epic, though, lol.

This game has four versions of Akiha, three Shikis and four Kohakus including tag team characters. I don't see why not.

4 akihas? 3 unless you're including G.Akiha which hardly even counts.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on May 09, 2011, 01:53:26 AM
I just counted G.Akiha in 'cos her name has Akiha in it.
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Post by: Erkz on May 09, 2011, 01:54:57 PM
From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
- We said we'd try to have the game in operation by the end of the year, but it's been delayed to Spring next year. I'm sorry, everyone! It'd be nice if we finished before Spring though. ^^;
[ :gonk: - And after all that "it's going favorably" stuff too.]

- Koihime AC is seriously coming out!
[ :V - ... huh? What does that have to do with anything?]

- About the AM Show Exhibit... Doushio~? There's been some trouble regarding the voice actor contracts, and while the game's pretty good without voice acting... I don't want to admit defeat, orz. Oh well, we'll think of something.
[  :gonk: - wat? TL Note: "Doushio" means "What should I do?"]

- About the 2nd UST that was announced a month ago. It was announced too early. I believe various things must be prepared and must also be implemented on this end. I want to do follow-up reports on Melty Blood and UNI, please enjoy it.
[ :V - ... so... when is it?]



I don't really trust my translations on this one, mainly because I hurriedly tried to summarize the main points when I saw that FB had finally posted something... but that should at least be the gist of it.
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Post by: Rokunaya on May 09, 2011, 03:24:36 PM
Seems like kinda bad news overall.

Oh well, at least they still care in the end unlike most companies nowadays
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Post by: Exciel on May 09, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
They must be too busy playing Koihime fighter.
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 09, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
Erkz, can you possibly go into more detail?

Sorry if I'm asking much, I usually just link your post to the front page, haha.
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Post by: fiendmaw on May 10, 2011, 05:35:45 AM
No word on the UNIB PV that was advertised on a-cho's twitter?
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Post by: Erkz on May 10, 2011, 03:13:27 PM
Erkz, can you possibly go into more detail?

Sorry if I'm asking much, I usually just link your post to the front page, haha.

Erm... There's not much more detail to go into. He talks about Golden Week [how it pretty much stopped everything], tightropes [comparing game development to it], commenting that the earthquake didn't really affect development that much, then suddenly "we're now aiming for spring next year, sorry" and the Koihime AC thing. Afterwards he mentions the AM show exhibit ["Doushio? Making it in time is pressuring."], the voice actor trouble [something about agreements/payments, not sure about this one.], makes a jab about not having voices and ends with the Ustream stuff [Too early, enjoy the next one].

No word on the UNIB PV that was advertised on a-cho's twitter?
Haven't seen anything about it, then again, I haven't really looked either.
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 10, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Ah ok.

My apologies then, thanks!
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Post by: Erkz on May 14, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
- Sorry for the hold up. The next stream's broadcasting date has been decided. It will be held on the 19th at 23:00.
[ :gonk: - FFFFF- I'll be at work then.]

- Channel link here. (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/7351707)

- We'll also be reading the e-mails you sent!
[  :V - Yay, life-counseling.]
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on May 14, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
Sweet. I hope the quality of the stream is better this time.
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Post by: fiendmaw on May 19, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
Quality wasnt better.
As far as unib goes,they only showed artwork,no gameplay explanations/videos.
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Post by: yui on May 19, 2011, 11:51:29 AM
new character is arc: earth with her own new sprites and moveset.

on one hand :fap:
but also :-\
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 19, 2011, 11:53:35 AM
new character is arc: earth with her own new sprites and moveset.

on one hand :fap:
but also :-\

Is this fact or are you just saying you hope it's true?
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Post by: yui on May 19, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
new character is arc: earth with her own new sprites and moveset.

on one hand :fap:
but also :-\

Is this fact or are you just saying you hope it's true?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14809900
watch. around 30 mins in you get footage of arc:earth in c moon
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Post by: LivingShadow on May 19, 2011, 12:22:24 PM
new character is arc: earth with her own new sprites and moveset.

on one hand :fap:
but also :-\

Is this fact or are you just saying you hope it's true?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14809900
watch. around 30 mins in you get footage of arc:earth in c moon

This time Archetype is fighting in the princess outfit. I'm seeing shockwaves of various types, whirlwind? mines, looks heavy zoning.
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 19, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
The fucking stream keeps crashing on me, so I can't even get to 20 minutes.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Post by: Exciel on May 19, 2011, 01:37:16 PM
Just skip to about 32 minutes if you want the Archetype footage. She flies around and has windy moves, kinda like that one move of Crimson Earth's.
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Post by: Rowanism on May 19, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
=O
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Post by: fiendmaw on May 19, 2011, 02:53:33 PM
Isnt this supposed to be the unib thread..
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on May 19, 2011, 09:34:41 PM
This is the "new french bread shit" thread
This time Archetype is fighting in the princess outfit. I'm seeing shockwaves of various types, whirlwind? mines, looks heavy zoning.

Super heavy zoning....and idk if it was just the laggy stream or not but did i see her HOVERING?
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 19, 2011, 10:37:05 PM
Super Heavy Zoning Princess?

YES PLEASE :D
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Post by: Komidol on May 20, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
Super Heavy Zoning Princess?

Chibi you always get really hype for a character and then don't play them for more than two weeks ;(  

You really going in on Arc. Earth?
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Post by: LivingShadow on May 20, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
This is the "new french bread shit" thread
This time Archetype is fighting in the princess outfit. I'm seeing shockwaves of various types, whirlwind? mines, looks heavy zoning.

Super heavy zoning....and idk if it was just the laggy stream or not but did i see her HOVERING?

You're not the only one who thought that. I was seeing her hover a bit but I don't know if that was just the stream.
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Post by: F9|Chibi on May 20, 2011, 06:04:33 AM
Super Heavy Zoning Princess?

Chibi you always get really hype for a character and then don't play them for more than two weeks ;(  

You really going in on Arc. Earth?

Haha, I definitely want to try her, that's for sure.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on May 20, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
This is the "new french bread shit" thread
This time Archetype is fighting in the princess outfit. I'm seeing shockwaves of various types, whirlwind? mines, looks heavy zoning.

Super heavy zoning....and idk if it was just the laggy stream or not but did i see her HOVERING?

You're not the only one who thought that. I was seeing her hover a bit but I don't know if that was just the stream.

Omoshiroi.
Zoning + Hovering = epic mindgames
Bait overheads all day e'rry day.

EDIT: ^LOL thinking in terms of BB
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 21, 2011, 08:02:22 AM
Super heavy zoning.... HOVERING?

Ok... that doesn't look fun to fight against.

And another thing? What is with princess' and hovering as an ability?
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on May 21, 2011, 11:21:30 AM
What is with princess' and hovering as an ability?

Don't you kno?
All princesses' have magical levitation devices in their vaginas.
Its wat makes them special.  :V
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 21, 2011, 11:31:13 AM
Don't you kno?
All princesses' have magical levitation devices in their vaginas.
Its wat makes them special.  :V
Ooooookkkkkkk.... I'll assume that there was nothing on UNIB.
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Post by: LoliSauce on May 21, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
Only UNIB was some art of new characters that was not on the recorded part of the stream (unfortunately).  The characters were a goth loli with what looked like red blade wings, the UNREAL BLACK THING itself, and a red headed samurai chick I think?
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Post by: Erkz on May 22, 2011, 09:22:57 AM
From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
- Thanks to everyone who watched the stream on the 19th.

- Posting the e-mail address out in the open turned it into a spam trap so we made a mail form instead @ http://transistar.info/fura_pan.html



And now for a few months without any substantial info whatsoever. :emo:
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Post by: Rowanism on May 22, 2011, 10:33:02 AM
(http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/bf604be6445888d1cc56b78085d1667e.jpg)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on May 26, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
From the Bread Factory: (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/) [Thanks Caiooa for the heads up.]

- Thanks again for watching the stream.

- With regards to Melty; from the brief look in the video, the new character is oriented towards advanced-level players, a specially planned out kind of character that plays a little different from all the characters so far. Look forward to it.
[ :V - So he says.]

- With regards to UNIB; you'll have to wait a little bit for proper character introductions. I didn't think it'd become the first bit of news in 4 months without anything else. Until then, I guess everyone will have to call them the "Mystery Character." orz I haven't thought about the official site's design yet, though. orz

- The illustration (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/images/diary/F/French-Bread/2011-05-26.jpg), done by the artist Yoshihara*, is of the Stand-User from an earlier glimpse... Harada-san [Tentative]. Next up, we'll introduce this person... or so I thought. orz Anyway, we'll keep doing our best.
 [* = Not sure. Kanji is 吉原.]

- The phone thing during the live broadcast. I lost it when I saw "Tsukihime Renewal development has finally started" but then "Gotcha, idiot" and I let a little tsukkomi slip into the live broadcast... and that's that. Speaking of which, with regards to MBHD, until Tsukihime Renewal's release date is announced, our goal is perfecting UNIB. If, at that time, we get an OK from TYPE-MOON, look forward to it eventually.
[:gonk: - They haven't announced one for MahoYo yet, far more that...]

- [And in the last paragraph he nerdrages/gasms about recent anime.]
[ :V - Ano Hana, Denpa Onna, Hanasaku Iroha and Hoshizora in case you were wondering.]



Or something like that.  :psyduck:
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Post by: fiendmaw on May 27, 2011, 02:09:52 AM
It seems I was right!
Type-Moon is holding down FB from doing anything major for MB.They have alot of projects going on and none of them are actually released yet.Hopefully they will sort their stuff out,and FB can at least start working on MBHD this year.
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Post by: Komidol on May 27, 2011, 02:46:08 AM
It seems I was right!
Type-Moon is holding down FB from doing anything major for MB.They have alot of projects going on and none of them are actually released yet.Hopefully they will sort their stuff out,and FB can at least start working on MBHD this year.

Source?
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 27, 2011, 01:38:26 PM
"Tsukihime Renewal development has finally started"
??? OK, that could mean alot... I am willing to suspect that it might have more to do with TM at the moment. Still with Girl's-work, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, Fate/Zero keeping them all busy, I don't expect to hear anything about it for a while.
Said that, this also can be all about nothing.
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Post by: Sinswordsman on May 31, 2011, 09:02:26 AM
Wow, no news.
Come on this game is INTERESTING!
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Post by: Rowanism on June 01, 2011, 01:56:50 PM
Wow, no news.
Come on this game is INTERESTING!
What do you mean (http://www.typemoon.com/products/mbaacc/mbaacc.html)
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Post by: Forte Wily on June 02, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
What do you mean (http://www.typemoon.com/products/mbaacc/mbaacc.html)


Doesn't T-M slide in some advertisement dollars with FB from time to time on a new version of MB since MBAC?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on June 03, 2011, 03:50:55 AM
Was MB ever featured on the typemoon main site?
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Post by: fiendmaw on June 15, 2011, 12:43:32 AM
フランスパンはドッターさん募集中なのです。腕に自信のある方是非。http://bit.ly/iA0yWY
From French Bread's twitter.
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Post by: LivingShadow on June 15, 2011, 04:36:18 AM
Wait? They're recruiting? I guess they have a lot of spriting work to do.

Before anyone says anything, my skills aren't that good.
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Post by: Rowanism on June 15, 2011, 05:43:41 AM
Let's beat that hateful BlazBlue!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on July 25, 2011, 07:16:45 PM
So anything new happen?
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Post by: fiendmaw on July 26, 2011, 08:30:35 AM
There are going to be some announcements in September,doubt well get anything until then.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on July 28, 2011, 03:04:29 PM
I might be REALLY late posting this, but confirmed zoning hovering princess is confirmed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOuav-x0LM
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Post by: Exciel on July 28, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
All you had to do was look at the youtube post date to realize you are indeed really late in posting this.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on July 31, 2011, 05:50:31 PM
Thanks for making me look like a dumbass. +HEAT
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Post by: Nandeyanen on August 01, 2011, 12:11:19 AM
Don't know if I like that they're adding a character with flight into the game. Not sure if it currently drains meter fast enough, and with 300 meter (or max heat) to work with, that character could float for quite some time.
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Post by: Roy-Kr on August 01, 2011, 04:26:10 AM
Yeah, shit sucks, but it just wouldn't be Yuyuko if she didn't fly :V
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Post by: WYVERN LORD on August 01, 2011, 12:14:25 PM
Don't know if I like that they're adding a character with flight into the game. Not sure if it currently drains meter fast enough, and with 300 meter (or max heat) to work with, that character could float for quite some time.
It looks awesome and at least they're giving a cool character flight

like it if was ryougi or some other ugly loli I'd be like get that shit outta here
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on August 01, 2011, 01:43:38 PM
Don't know if I like that they're adding a character with flight into the game. Not sure if it currently drains meter fast enough, and with 300 meter (or max heat) to work with, that character could float for quite some time.
It looks awesome and at least they're giving a cool character flight

like it if was ryougi or some other ugly loli I'd be like get that shit outta here

Shit.. so that's what it was. You know.. I've felt like there was something missing from Ryougi's repertoire for awhile now. I think you may have hit the nail on the head.
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Post by: F9|Chibi on August 01, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
Don't know if I like that they're adding a character with flight into the game. Not sure if it currently drains meter fast enough, and with 300 meter (or max heat) to work with, that character could float for quite some time.

You shut up right now or I'll FIRE YOU FROM THE GOD DAMN INTERNET.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: MasterT on August 02, 2011, 05:40:35 PM
I don't know why you'd be that worried about flight, overall air mobility in MB is pretty high.

Unless you play necos.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on August 05, 2011, 02:33:57 AM
Basically no news about website updates, the remaining characters, the game system, voice actor announcements and the platform being NESiCA[!?] until September. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)
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Post by: Forte Wily on August 05, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
the platform being NESiCA[!?] until September. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)

You know, it just hit me that the platform might be negligible... It's going to be a networked game regardless (update, and so on), on systems that both have an window's based OS and hardware structure. There would not be many differences if the code to the game itself was made to be somewhat portable (which is a good idea despite hardware loyalty).

Granted, I doubt that Sega would be happy with that but Ecole goes that way they take FB with it. There is not a lot that Sega can really do to keep them in one spot.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on August 08, 2011, 07:51:35 AM
Unless you play necos.

 :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on August 13, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
the platform being NESiCA[!?] until September. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/)

You know, it just hit me that the platform might be negligible... It's going to be a networked game regardless (update, and so on), on systems that both have an window's based OS and hardware structure. There would not be many differences if the code to the game itself was made to be somewhat portable (which is a good idea despite hardware loyalty).

Granted, I doubt that Sega would be happy with that but Ecole goes that way they take FB with it. There is not a lot that Sega can really do to keep them in one spot.

Good point. Plus in the arcade market, much like everything else relating to the game industry, it's getting harder and harder for the "little" guy to make any penetration in the market. Even more so when arcade hardware costs several arms and legs, and operators have to be very choosy with what units they'll buy.

So, as much as I'm sure this will be the bane of all prospective arcade importers outside of Japan, Ecole and FB may make this choice, because it will at least give them a chance to get out there on the market, without necessarily having to deal with the costs of hardware distribution (which is the very thing that has plagued SNK for both KOFXII and XIII alike).

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Post by: Forte Wily on August 14, 2011, 02:16:05 PM

Good point. Plus in the arcade market, much like everything else relating to the game industry, it's getting harder and harder for the "little" guy to make any penetration in the market. Even more so when arcade hardware costs several arms and legs, and operators have to be very choosy with what units they'll buy.

So, as much as I'm sure this will be the bane of all prospective arcade importers outside of Japan, Ecole and FB may make this choice, because it will at least give them a chance to get out there on the market, without necessarily having to deal with the costs of hardware distribution (which is the very thing that has plagued SNK for both KOFXII and XIII alike).
That is why I don't think that Ecole will be willing to make an exclusive if this turns out to be the case. It would lessen distribution costs to just toss the game on the network(s) to buy and let the operators deal with if they want it or not from their hardware manufacturer of choice.

But also keep in mind that Sega has been keeping an eye on their amusement (read: Arcade system and places) side of business, and they are a large international corporation with many channels. Tatio, not so much. I honestly don't think that Sega would simply let this pass without doing something, given FB's track record. If anything, The House of Sonic still has much cash to burn.... and that would be the usual response if Ecole has those aspirations to leave.

Oh and last I checked, SNK moved to Tatio's Type^2 for hardware a while back. How has that been an issue?
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Post by: 3IIIT on August 14, 2011, 04:08:57 PM
That is why I don't think that Ecole will be willing to make an exclusive if this turns out to be the case. It would lessen distribution costs to just toss the game on the network(s) to buy and let the operators deal with if they want it or not from their hardware manufacturer of choice.

But also keep in mind that Sega has been keeping an eye on their amusement (read: Arcade system and places) side of business, and they are a large international corporation with many channels. Tatio, not so much. I honestly don't think that Sega would simply let this pass without doing something, given FB's track record. If anything, The House of Sonic still has much cash to burn.... and that would be the usual response if Ecole has those aspirations to leave.

Oh and last I checked, SNK moved to Tatio's Type^2 for hardware a while back. How has that been an issue?

To put it bluntly: the costs. Basically, everything relating to how XII went down put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths and it was no different in Japanese arcades. XII failed to deliver on anyone's expectations, for the costs that were entailed. And then a console port was rushed out, which left Arcade Operators PISSED. For it left them stuck with arcade hardware that was sitting around, doing nothing, while people were happily going back to the UMs. 

So much did XII change things for SNKP, that they had to make deals with Konami to act as the publisher for the arcade release of XIII. Likely done to make it so that operators felt that they had a little more "security" when it came to committing to another investment to buy the hardware.

So, yeah, the whole XII episode stands as arguably one of the "worst case scenarios" in this vein. Even so, I'd like to think that FB and Ecole wouldn't turn a blind eye to that much, seeing how UNIB represents their own first foray in HD, and that much of an investment is expensive as it is. Sega may be looking out for their interests, but FB, especially, has to be considering their own stake in their future.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on August 14, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
To put it bluntly: the costs. Basically, everything relating to how XII went down put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths and it was no different in Japanese arcades. XII failed to deliver on anyone's expectations, for the costs that were entailed. And then a console port was rushed out, which left Arcade Operators PISSED. For it left them stuck with arcade hardware that was sitting around, doing nothing, while people were happily going back to the UMs. 
Oh, I could see that... The Type^2 is not cheap, and Tatio is not that known for quality control. So when SNK let slip a bad (obviously beta) game on the system and then rush to console, it would leave operators in a lurch. I would hesitate to buy direct from SNK again, unless they had gold on their hands ... lucky for them that XIII is the better game.
For much of the same reason, Capcom seemed insistence to keeping SSF4:AE to a 6 month window (much to Ono's annoyance), having SSF4 at home and SF 4 on cabs for a year wasn't pleasing operators any and AE was the push to win them back (alas, while making enemies of players/consumers here for the release of AE).

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So much did XII change things for SNKP, that they had to make deals with Konami to act as the publisher for the arcade release of XIII. Likely done to make it so that operators felt that they had a little more "security" when it came to committing to another investment to buy the hardware. 
Oh, that is bad. But that also explains why '98 Ultimate Match Final Round was made for NasicaLive. Just case XIII failed, operators would have something to look forward to and keep the cab running, something that I am sure they got an earful of when XII failed in the market.

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So, yeah, the whole XII episode stands as arguably one of the "worst case scenarios" in this vein. Even so, I'd like to think that FB and Ecole wouldn't turn a blind eye to that much, seeing how UNIB represents their own first foray in HD, and that much of an investment is expensive as it is. Sega may be looking out for their interests, but FB, especially, has to be considering their own stake in their future.
This is part of the reason to why one manufacturer "to rule them all" is not a very good thing for a market. Basically, Tatio makes all the rules at the moment and if something fails... it does so hard and Tatio has no incentive to do anything about it. With Sega around with a few high profile games in the pocket, Tatio is forced to compete and keep games from failing too badly.
As to the Indie/Doujin developer trying to make it in, I would be hard pressed to say that it's good for them that the chooses remain narrow.

Well, as far as FB/Ecole goes... we'll see where they take the game once made. As much as I speculate, there are still a few things that would randomize what happens. Given the MBAACC 1.07 PC release with Carnival Phantasm, I am not sure what  will happen (didn't see that one coming) with UNIB. That said, at worse it's an .EXE that they can dump on NasicaLive/ALL.net when they need to. And really, Sega does have a price advantage on Tatio with hardware... with that in mind, a good game to watch at the moment is Chaos Code... which happens to be a Ringwide-game, if response about the cabs are good then it would likely do a lot at Sega's end of things. And to be honest FB would have to be watching.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Komidol on August 15, 2011, 08:28:52 AM
Don't know if I like that they're adding a character with flight into the game. Not sure if it currently drains meter fast enough, and with 300 meter (or max heat) to work with, that character could float for quite some time.
It looks awesome and at least they're giving a cool character flight

like it if was ryougi or some other ugly loli I'd be like get that shit outta here

You just want to play Kanna. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on September 02, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17023146

Well, here's a recording of that stream that occurred.

Quote from: Tachyon @ Dustloop
Majority of the questions were concerning MBAACC.

Most of the responses for a number of questions were not definitive (i.e. Wakaranai!"). I guess they just couldn't answer a lot of them at this time. They don't seem interested to develop ports on the 360.

- http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11035-Under-Night-In-Birth-(New-French-Bread-Fighting-Game)&p=1123863&viewfull=1#post1123863

Guess we'll have to wait for AM Show for anything relating to UNIB specifically.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 05, 2011, 08:52:39 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17023146

Well, here's a recording of that stream that occurred.

Quote from: Tachyon @ Dustloop
Majority of the questions were concerning MBAACC.

Most of the responses for a number of questions were not definitive (i.e. Wakaranai!"). I guess they just couldn't answer a lot of them at this time. They don't seem interested to develop ports on the 360.

- http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11035-Under-Night-In-Birth-(New-French-Bread-Fighting-Game)&p=1123863&viewfull=1#post1123863

Guess we'll have to wait for AM Show for anything relating to UNIB specifically.
When in Sept is that happening again?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on September 05, 2011, 11:25:33 AM
AM Show according to the the official website (http://www.am-show.jp/) will be happening 9/15-9/16.
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Post by: Forte Wily on September 06, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
AM Show according to the the official website (http://www.am-show.jp/) will be happening 9/15-9/16.
Oh, that might be bad... TGS is around the same time (business hours are during those dates)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on September 07, 2011, 02:23:32 PM
I don't think so, really. If anything, the two shows, for the most part, cater to two different interests.

I mean, unless French Bread was going to be doing it like Atlus and ASW's new Persona fighter and have a NESiCA arcade release + console port within months of each other...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 07, 2011, 07:27:18 PM
I don't think so, really. If anything, the two shows, for the most part, cater to two different interests.
Still means that I am going to have to get information second hand. And TGS is slowly looking  to be.... busy.

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I mean, unless French Bread was going to be doing it like Atlus and ASW's new Persona fighter and have a NESiCA arcade release + console port within months of each other...

That looks good, but I don't think that you would be seeing a lot of coverage with cabs. Arcade Operators where bothered with AE enough to hold it back for 6 months, I don't think that they would let this slip ASW's notice but we'll see.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on September 23, 2011, 03:17:51 AM
http://inbirth.info/topic0001.html
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on September 23, 2011, 10:07:28 AM
Damnit, I got excited for actual content.  Don't do that to me!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on September 23, 2011, 12:06:06 PM
So new info in the next Arcadia? Sure hope they actually put something in there. For a game that's supposed to be coming out in Spring, they've released amazingly little info on it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Komidol on September 23, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
At hydra GP they'll be unveiling a new character.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on September 23, 2011, 05:01:01 PM
Well, judging by the RingEdge in the upper right, I guess all that NESiCA speculation can finally come to an end...

Ah well, here's to new info coming soon.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on September 23, 2011, 07:44:18 PM
Time to start collecting Arcadia. Will scan UNIB if nobody else does.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on September 23, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
I'll wait for the new info to update the front page.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 25, 2011, 08:16:50 PM
Well, judging by the RingEdge in the upper right, I guess all that NESiCA speculation can finally come to an end...

Ah well, here's to new info coming soon.
Hmmm... I am going to have to check some numbers on Border Break and Project DIVA game that are both on the hardware.

That settles the debate somewhat, we'll see if that icon isn't joined by another. That said, any guesses to where a port might show up?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on September 25, 2011, 09:16:56 PM
That settles the debate somewhat, we'll see if that icon isn't joined by another. That said, any guesses to where a port might show up?

I can't go beyond speculation, but I imagine that if there's going to be a port, it'll be for the PS3. FB has said before that they don't have much interest in porting things to the 360 (at least for Melty), so it's more likely to hit for the PS3. As for where as in localization: I have no idea.

That or it lands for the PC, since they seem to be defaulting to that for the comparable ease-of-creation.
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Post by: Forte Wily on September 26, 2011, 06:41:59 AM

I can't go beyond speculation

All I am asking people to do....
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I imagine that if there's going to be a port, it'll be for the PS3. FB has said before that they don't have much interest in porting things to the 360 (at least for Melty), so it's more likely to hit for the PS3.
Ok, that one is harder to say and the reason that I say that is, simply put, circumstances of Japan and the hardware it's currently on. I am rather sure that they want to port to the PS3. Given that it's distribution in Japan is large, why wouldn't you want to put yourself in large company that the PS3 has. The problem is that given that the system itself is Window-based, the likelihood of the graphics being dictated by DirectX 2D/3D is rather high. Almost all Sony systems tend to use OpenGL (or in the PS3's a subset of that in OpenGL ES) for graphical draw, conversion between the two is... painful. Not that it's impossible... but it is difficult.
If they are going to do (port to the PS3) that expect a wait on release...

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As for where as in localization: I have no idea.
You know, something like that it going to have to capture the interest of publishers here. Given how things have thinned out in North America, that is possible... the bigger question is whom will do it?


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That or it lands for the PC, since they seem to be defaulting to that for the comparable ease-of-creation.
Again, Windows-based hardware.... They need to do very little for a PC release (or nothing at all, the Type^2 and Ring-series both happen to be... a large PC to be honest, spec-wise).
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on September 27, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
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As for where as in localization: I have no idea.
You know, something like that it going to have to capture the interest of publishers here. Given how things have thinned out in North America, that is possible... the bigger question is whom will do it?

This might sound stupid, but id set my hopes on NIS or Atlus. And no, they're not known for publishing fighters in the least, but somehow I dont expect Aksys to step in here.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on September 28, 2011, 12:48:29 AM
Aksys has already expressed some level of interest in localizing MBAA in the past, so getting them to give UNIB or MBAACC a chance isn't too farfetched.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 28, 2011, 04:44:53 AM
This might sound stupid, but id set my hopes on NIS or Atlus. And no, they're not known for publishing fighters in the least, but somehow I dont expect Aksys to step in here.
Atlus USA would be interesting, I have been really liking how they handle properties like Catherine and King of Fighters 13. Hopefully, if KOF gives them the proper marketing channels.... UNIB would not be a bad fit, since there would be some overlap. It's not going to be as big as say, Street Fighter, but with games like UNIB, they don't need to be.
Alas, I don't know much about NIS to have an opinion.
Aksys.... hard to say. BBCSE will have them rather busy and it's rather likely that they (unless Atlus JP plays it close to the chest) will be working on localizing Person 4: The Ultimate In Mayonaka Arena. That said, it's not unlike them not to snap up an non-mainstream fighter before... Arcana Heart 3, springs to mind, as one. We'll have to see, but to be honest... I would be wary of any interest that they give off for the title, since Aksys has ups and downs.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on September 28, 2011, 06:56:50 AM
atlus brought ah1 over to the states
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on September 29, 2011, 10:44:46 AM
Aksys has already expressed some level of interest in localizing MBAA in the past, so getting them to give UNIB or MBAACC a chance isn't too farfetched.

Keeping up with the BB scene, CS is getting extended (again), and they're also working on this P4 thing. Id love for them to publish it, but I think there'd be delays, at the very least. Also, i just find the idea of French Bread working with the same guys that published "that hateful blazeblue" odd, lol.

Atlus USA would be interesting, I have been really liking how they handle properties like Catherine and King of Fighters 13. Hopefully, if KOF gives them the proper marketing channels.... UNIB would not be a bad fit, since there would be some overlap. It's not going to be as big as say, Street Fighter, but with games like UNIB, they don't need to be.
Alas, I don't know much about NIS to have an opinion.

Yea Atlus does really well with ports, and they are really willing to work with anything. Specifically they love to go with deep, niche, games, which is why im not sure if they'd go for it. I'd love to see them handle it. KoF isnt really a mainstream fighter anymore (just my thoughts, dont kill me), and UNIB would give them an opportunity to make cash.
NIS is in the same wavelength as Atlus. They constantly take up japanese material, even stuff that doesn't suit mainstream tastes. Also (God bless them), they take purists into consideration and they usually add optional japanese voice overs to the US ports, even in larger scale games. Not that we'd have to worry about that here, but its a reason y I love them.

atlus brought ah1 over to the states

Hmm. Didnt know that.
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Post by: 3IIIT on September 29, 2011, 03:33:01 PM
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I imagine that if there's going to be a port, it'll be for the PS3. FB has said before that they don't have much interest in porting things to the 360 (at least for Melty), so it's more likely to hit for the PS3.
Ok, that one is harder to say and the reason that I say that is, simply put, circumstances of Japan and the hardware it's currently on. I am rather sure that they want to port to the PS3. Given that it's distribution in Japan is large, why wouldn't you want to put yourself in large company that the PS3 has. The problem is that given that the system itself is Window-based, the likelihood of the graphics being dictated by DirectX 2D/3D is rather high. Almost all Sony systems tend to use OpenGL (or in the PS3's a subset of that in OpenGL ES) for graphical draw, conversion between the two is... painful. Not that it's impossible... but it is difficult.
If they are going to do (port to the PS3) that expect a wait on release...

On the other hand? If French Bread and Ecole are indeed serious about having a port out in a timely fashion, they could opt to do like SNKP and start working on a console port in tandem with the arcade release, so that they could work out these issues sooner, rather later. I remember there was a lot of talk about this game having a substantial bit of "Visual Novel" aspects in the mix. Obviously, such things would be more appreciated in a port than they would in the arcades, where it's highly likely they won't even be seen by a number of players.

But, we'll see what happens sooner or later, right? In any case, we'll likely be waiting anywhere between 6-12 months after it starts its run in the arcades anyway, so the sooner the arcade release happens, the better!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on September 30, 2011, 05:06:38 AM
http://inbirth.info/index.html
UPDATED!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on September 30, 2011, 05:34:07 AM
So what exactly was updated?

Character section?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on September 30, 2011, 06:10:46 AM
Yeah, they updated the story and character sections. Two new characters. One is that summoner that we saw on their stream earlier, the second is a guy with a scythe who wasn't on that concept sketch from earlier.

After a little investigation of the screenshots it seems that the damage is lower than melty. Linne has a 14 hit combo that does 4k.

I'd like to point out that there are 5 slots left on the character section and 7 more characters in the concept sketch.
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Post by: WYVERN LORD on September 30, 2011, 06:46:26 AM
After a little investigation of the screenshots it seems that the damage is lower than melty. Linne has a 14 hit combo that does 4k.
Doesn't mean anything, we don't how much health each character has and 4k is average-ish in mb for a bnb output, also remember c-arc with ridiculous 30-hit bnbs that do no damage.

New characters all look great, some of the backgrounds look awesome but others are pretty damn fugly
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on September 30, 2011, 09:57:25 AM
Was there any footage of Gordeau in that last stream?
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Post by: Sahgren on September 30, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
Was there any footage of Gordeau in that last stream?

Not that I remember. The last stream was just Q&A, and the stream before it was Orie and Carmine. I think there was a concept art picture of him floating around, I just can't figure out where they got it. I most certainly don't remember it from the original trailer.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on September 30, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
Front pagderered
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Post by: LoliSauce on September 30, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
So what are the abilities of each person?

Hyde: Void Red?
Linne: Speedster
Waldstein: Hekatonkheir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekatonkheires)?
Carmine: Blood Spike
Orie: Thanatos?
Gordeau: Snatcher?

Btw, I like how Gordeau just kind of materializes the scythe it seems.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on September 30, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
Wow good job on hitting Waldstein's. Hmm perhaps we'll get something Drive like. Shoutouts to the stage that's practically a bigger Modernism Street.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Numakie on September 30, 2011, 03:30:36 PM
Love how Orie looks with dat rapier.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on September 30, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
So apparently "Rapiers" and "Scythes" are called "Rulers" and "Debowelers" now.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on September 30, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
I don't care what it is, having a weapon named "Ruler" is hype.  Though Gordeau is starting to sound like a major creeper.  Ability name Snatcher?  Weapon name Deboweler?  Seriously wtf.

Also does anyone else think that the "Seed" meter thing at the bottom looks kind of like guard primers?  ...lol, there's probably a lot of people that won't be happy with that statement.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on September 30, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
Also does anyone else think that the "Seed" meter thing at the bottom looks kind of like guard primers?  ...lol, there's probably a lot of people that won't be happy with that statement.

... system page when?  :psyduck:





And I can't seem to figure out what an "EXS" [their abilities] is. Is it like a drive or something? They all have superformal titles like "EXS of Purity - Thanatos".

Also Waldstein's weapon is called "Manly Iron Claws ~ Destroyer Troops". :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on September 30, 2011, 05:57:52 PM
Not certain if they're guard primers, we have yet to get a video where we see a situation where the meter goes down. That and it looks like you can actually encroach on the other player's side (seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&feature=player_detailpage#t=29s) in the first trailer), so maybe you get some sort of big Astral-esque super if you get all of it.

Also looks like you can take off half of a point. Yeah, I'm confused.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Irysa on September 30, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_ori03.jpg

I hope that's a shoryu!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on September 30, 2011, 07:39:12 PM
http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_ori03.jpg

I hope that's a shoryu!
Yeah, I remember seeing that from the promo vid a while back of her.  She zips around with stabs, shoryus, and dive attacks all over the place.

Not certain if they're guard primers, we have yet to get a video where we see a situation where the meter goes down. That and it looks like you can actually encroach on the other player's side (seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&feature=player_detailpage#t=29s) in the first trailer), so maybe you get some sort of big Astral-esque super if you get all of it.

Also looks like you can take off half of a point. Yeah, I'm confused.
Ah yeah, I didn't pay attention to that at all in that trailer.  Yeah, looks like you can gradually fill up or deplete them.  Guess they're probably not like guard primers after all!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on October 01, 2011, 12:18:20 AM
In the first trailer there's a scene where the meter goes down. At 0:57. Look at Linne's meter. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&feature=player_detailpage#t=57s

That looks like some kind of iHEAT.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on October 01, 2011, 01:46:32 AM
In the first trailer there's a scene where the meter goes down. At 0:57. Look at Linne's meter. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&feature=player_detailpage#t=57s

That looks like some kind of iHEAT.

In the combo against Carmine where Linne loses 100 meter? Seems more like an EX attack to me.

Looks like Waldstein is completely out of Seed gauge at 1:08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&feature=player_detailpage#t=68s). He's being comboed though, so that doesn't actually tell us whether or not it was his guard getting broken. Just shows that the gauge doesn't automatically refill after it hits 0.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on October 01, 2011, 07:22:46 AM
Damn it's been a good set of days, more on Skullgirls (been watching some Friday night fights with MIke Z and the other programming staff (http://www.youtube.com/user/SkullgirlsGame#grid/user/E093E6D255559351)), more on UNIB....



On the other hand? If French Bread and Ecole are indeed serious about having a port out in a timely fashion, they could opt to do like SNKP and start working on a console port in tandem with the arcade release, so that they could work out these issues sooner, rather later. I remember there was a lot of talk about this game having a substantial bit of "Visual Novel" aspects in the mix. Obviously, such things would be more appreciated in a port than they would in the arcades, where it's highly likely they won't even be seen by a number of players.

I am not so sure that having a "VN-like" aspects would go unnoticed in the Arcade setting, given that one of the bigger targets of UNIB is the MB-fanbase. Having that in the game once it hits the cabs is almost an expected, it would be hard to show it to the MB players otherwise.  But you are right, even with that... it would take more time to create into something more substantial for the Console/PC market (knowing that they would expect more the second that you say "Visual Novel").
The other thing that I would have to point out is I am not sure that FB/Ecole would want to miss out on the information that the arcade setting would give them to hammer out a port, I expect a decent release to cab but not perfect... alot of that data would help with balance changes to the system once the choice comes down to port the game. It would be hard to overlook that which is useful, PS3-issues be damned. The last thing that you want is a zero-day balance patch on release... that would be a bad sign.



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But, we'll see what happens sooner or later, right? In any case, we'll likely be waiting anywhere between 6-12 months after it starts its run in the arcades anyway, so the sooner the arcade release happens, the better!

That we can all agree on.

Also does anyone else think that the "Seed" meter thing at the bottom looks kind of like guard primers?  ...lol, there's probably a lot of people that won't be happy with that statement.

GOD NOT THEM AGAIN! >:( Ugh, guard primer points... Ugh. There are some things that they could learn from BB, Guard primers is not one of them. >:(
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on October 01, 2011, 08:07:34 AM
I said earlier in the thread that I think they're a combination of IHeat and bursts.
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Post by: FireBearHero on October 02, 2011, 05:59:10 PM
Under-hyped Afterbirth

I'm guessing they're gonna go for PSP port only and make us all cry little baby tears.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on October 02, 2011, 06:26:46 PM
^Psh. Doubt that. This is supposed to be their money maker after all, they'd wanna go big.
Or at least I hope they do.
I want a PS3 port. I can go either way, but I want PS3.

Also. Gordeau interested me from the get-go, since I saw his concept art.
That scythe just screams "POKE POKE".
IDK wth Snatcher means tho. Long range grabs with the "debowler"? Stealing meter?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on October 03, 2011, 04:06:03 PM
They've already mentioned their heavy interest in ps3 port multiple times, I dunno why this is even being questioned.

Don't get too excited about that scythe, yet.  There are just as many screens up of Gordeau without his scythe out as there are with it, so it might be something that you have to command summon or only works for specific attacks, etc.  *shrugs*
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on October 03, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
I am not so sure that having a "VN-like" aspects would go unnoticed in the Arcade setting, given that one of the bigger targets of UNIB is the MB-fanbase. Having that in the game once it hits the cabs is almost an expected, it would be hard to show it to the MB players otherwise.  But you are right, even with that... it would take more time to create into something more substantial for the Console/PC market (knowing that they would expect more the second that you say "Visual Novel").

Well, sure, it's geared towards MB players. But an arcade release is geared towards those arcade MB players who value the competitive aspects of the game, first and foremost. What content of that sort which may be present in arcade release will likely just be recorded and put on Youtube/Nico soon enough for people to enjoy, relish for a little while and then go back to playing Vs.

Having said that though, French Bread will probably be just fine doing what their rivals at ASW has been doing for a number of years now: have the full-fledged VN Story Mode reserved for the home release.

If the Persona fighter can have a breakdown like that, surely UNIB can do the same. 

But anyway, I like scythe dude. Can't wait to see him in motion.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on October 04, 2011, 02:34:17 PM
http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20111003040/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20111003040/)

Just a summary of the official website's updates and some character profiles. Still in Japanese but text form so you can google translate that if you want. Bad summary of what I got of the story,

In the year 20XX  :psyduck: it's widley accepted that science can disprove any strange phenomena in the world. However in later years rumors begin to emerge about 'Cannibal Shadows' aka UNREAL BLACK THINGS. If a human has his own shadow eaten by the Shadow, they become Night Hollows that forever wander the earth as dead zombie things.

Hyde's your typical sword-wielding Japanese highschooler. No real interest in trivial things and doesn't give a crap about some silly rumors of cannibal shadows, yet somewhere in his heart he yearns for excitement and adventure in his life. As luck would have it, one day while walking home from school Hyde encounters an UNREAL BLACK THING quickly approaching him. Linne, a girl on a mission, encounters Hyde by chance and saves him and they form a companionship to fight off the remainder UNREAL BLACK THINGS.
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Post by: Erkz on October 04, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
In the year 20XX  :psyduck: it's widley accepted that science can disprove any strange phenomena in the world. However in later years rumors begin to emerge about 'Cannibal Shadows' aka UNREAL BLACK THINGS. If a human has his own shadow eaten by the Shadow, they become Night Hollows that forever wander the earth as dead zombie things.

Hyde's your typical sword-wielding Japanese highschooler. No real interest in trivial things and doesn't give a crap about some silly rumors of cannibal shadows, yet somewhere in his heart he yearns for excitement and adventure in his life. As luck would have it, one day while walking home from school Hyde encounters an UNREAL BLACK THING quickly approaching him. Linne, a girl on a mission, encounters Hyde by chance and saves him and they form a companionship to fight off the remainder UNREAL BLACK THINGS.

UNREAL BLACK THINGS GET HYPE.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on October 04, 2011, 05:22:42 PM
<<< HYPE.

EDIT: I find it really odd that Hyde is supposed to be japanese, considering he and the rest of the cast so far has european names.
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Post by: Exciel on October 04, 2011, 07:05:43 PM
Actually I have no idea if he's Japanese or not (or where UNIB takes place for that matter) I just assumed as much from his crazy get up and sword. ┐('~`;)┌ He is a highschooler though and did encounter the black thing on his way home from school.

Waldstein's also like a guardian figure for Linne and Carmine's just nuts.
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 04, 2011, 07:10:05 PM
Awww, now I'm going to be disappointed that's probably not the "100% legit" translation for the story.  ;D

But anyway, thanks for sharing that link!
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Post by: Sahgren on October 04, 2011, 08:46:46 PM
Waldstein's also like a guardian figure for Linne and Carmine's just nuts.

That's +Awesome points for me. I don't think I would've liked Waldstein if he was evil. The thought Daddy Waldstein on the other hand makes me smile.

Year 20XX, the year of the UNREAL BLACK THING.
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Post by: Forte Wily on October 05, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
Well, sure, it's geared towards MB players. But an arcade release is geared towards those arcade MB players who value the competitive aspects of the game, first and foremost. What content of that sort which may be present in arcade release will likely just be recorded and put on Youtube/Nico soon enough for people to enjoy, relish for a little while and then go back to playing Vs.
I am not so quick to push that off... for two reasons. First off, the competitive nature of the game pretty much comes with the genre. If you even dare call any game a fighter, then that is something that you have to take into account. And given how long MB has lasted in that environment, I don't think that FB would be shy about having that in the game.  So it bought that it would be so much of a worry.

Second, again... The MB fanbase is a little larger than the hardcore players. With another game from the same makers, you have to assume that they are some expectations with the release. Being somewhat "VN-like" would be one thing that MB had from way back. That said, what is in the Arcade release of it and the Console port are two different matters. It's a fighting game, so FB will only relay get away with so much before it detracts from the action... In the Arcade that line is much finer than for consoles. At best, it's simply going to be a strict "story" for the Arcades since the action itself has be to in people's eyes and upfront.


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If the Persona fighter can have a breakdown like that, surely UNIB can do the same. 

But anyway, I like scythe dude. Can't wait to see him in motion.
We'll see what P4U does when it get out here, but I would somewhat expect that a bit.

Orie does look curious, I would like to see more of her in action.

They've already mentioned their heavy interest in ps3 port multiple times, I dunno why this is even being questioned.
They want to do doesn't mean that they will, and honestly.... After the "NESiCAlive speculation"....
I would question it.


http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20111003040/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20111003040/)

Just a summary of the official website's updates and some character profiles. Still in Japanese but text form so you can google translate that if you want. Bad summary of what I got of the story,

In the year 20XX  :psyduck: it's widley accepted that science can disprove any strange phenomena in the world. However in later years rumors begin to emerge about 'Cannibal Shadows' aka UNREAL BLACK THINGS. If a human has his own shadow eaten by the Shadow, they become Night Hollows that forever wander the earth as dead zombie things.

Hyde's your typical sword-wielding Japanese highschooler. No real interest in trivial things and doesn't give a crap about some silly rumors of cannibal shadows, yet somewhere in his heart he yearns for excitement and adventure in his life. As luck would have it, one day while walking home from school Hyde encounters an UNREAL BLACK THING quickly approaching him. Linne, a girl on a mission, encounters Hyde by chance and saves him and they form a companionship to fight off the remainder UNREAL BLACK THINGS.

??? Are we sure that Nasu has nothing to do with this project?
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Post by: Rei on October 05, 2011, 02:57:56 AM
Yo, them black things

(http://www.lovelake.org/black_thing.JPG)
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on October 06, 2011, 01:16:58 PM
Waldstein's also like a guardian figure for Linne and Carmine's just nuts.

That's +Awesome points for me. I don't think I would've liked Waldstein if he was evil. The thought Daddy Waldstein on the other hand makes me smile.

^This. He looks really evil but now we can all think of him as a pissed off ouji-san whenever we see that mean look on his face.

Year 20XX, the year of the UNREAL BLACK THING.

Feels good man.
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 08, 2011, 10:15:51 PM
Second, again... The MB fanbase is a little larger than the hardcore players. With another game from the same makers, you have to assume that they are some expectations with the release. Being somewhat "VN-like" would be one thing that MB had from way back.

You are correct, but overlooking one thing. A great majority of the MB fanbase = Type Moon fans. In fact, the main reason MB did a lot to gain ground as it did, was relying on Type Moon and its fans to help spread the word about what was a great game that served as a (almost) continuation to the Tsukihime storyline and seeing more of their favorite characters.

You know how BlazBlue struggled a bit at its outset (and still does, to some degree), because it's "NOT Guilty Gear"? I can't help but think it will likely be even harder for FB's new product, because in this case, there's no Type Moon branding. Visual Novel aspects in the mix for UNIB or not, it likely won't be compelling enough for those who just want more TM familiarity.

When FB decided to strike out on their own, they were also willing to give up that security blanket that came from having that TM license and die-hard fanbase. Admirable, in a number of respects, but it also means that they effectively have to start from scratch. In fact, a lot of what I've seen thus far showcases that the main ones hyped for this game are the ones who love MB because of it being a fun fighting game and less because of its connection to the "Nasuverse" or whatever. It probably is telling that FB markets UNIB the most at events where those types of people (re: tournament players) stand to be in attendance, in my opinion. Because if they can't sell the game to those players, who else do they have left?

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Post by: LoliSauce on October 08, 2011, 10:34:53 PM
It's not really starting from scratch when you've proven yourself to be able to make a game that stays in top 5 arcadia rankings for fucking ever.  Reputation is important.  They're an established company at this point, so they can venture into their own original IP without as much worry.  I think they're doing a great thing, and as long as they stick with the game to make it good, it'll be successful without relying on TypeMoon.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 08, 2011, 10:38:21 PM
Apparently it was Orie's birthday (http://gc.x90x.net/107-is-ories-birthday/) yesterday (or two days ago, depending on where you live). We are all horrible people for missing it.

Belated happy birthday, Orie!
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 08, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
I bought her a nightstand.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on October 09, 2011, 08:55:59 AM
Apparently it was Orie's birthday (http://gc.x90x.net/107-is-ories-birthday/) yesterday (or two days ago, depending on where you live). We are all horrible people for missing it.

Belated happy birthday, Orie!

I dont even kno the bitch yet. She better not be expecting a gift from me.
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Post by: arvy on October 09, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
Does anyone have that image of all the characters from way back?
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 09, 2011, 10:47:07 AM
Does anyone have that image of all the characters from way back?
Yeah, it's right here.
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Post by: Crescent Saber on October 09, 2011, 11:38:12 AM
I REALLY hope this game does well. It looks really good if the screenshots and trailer are any indication. Also the characters look great. Orie is my favorite so far. Going by her screenshots she has the look of a character with a fighting style that appeals to me GREATLY.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 09, 2011, 11:57:18 AM
I REALLY hope this game does well. It looks really good if the screenshots and trailer are any indication. Also the characters look great. Orie is my favorite so far. Going by her screenshots she has the look of a character with a fighting style that appeals to me GREATLY.

The (extremely blurry and very low quality) video of a stream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2q85ktvZrNw#t=498s) they had a while ago  put her as a Stand user. She was constantly summoning a large knight to fight alongside her.
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Post by: Exciel on October 09, 2011, 12:52:30 PM
Does anyone have that image of all the characters from way back?
Yeah, it's right here.
Interesting, no Gordeau here so it isn't necessarily a finalized who's in list.

oh God it's a shota why (unless it's Dorothy)
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 09, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
Since they showed off the updated art for the loli with the red blade-like wings during one of the streams (her outfit changed to more goth loli, iirc) I'm expecting her to show up at some point.  Also mr. unreal black thing.  Otherwise who knows which others will show up at this point.  The anticipation is exciting.

Also I'm sad that nobody got my night (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight)stand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JoJo%27s_Bizarre_Adventure#Stand_powers) gift joke.  Baww.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 09, 2011, 04:00:25 PM
Also I'm sad that nobody got my night (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight)stand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JoJo%27s_Bizarre_Adventure#Stand_powers) gift joke.  Baww.

I honestly wasn't certain whether you were making a Stand joke, or you had just bought a nightstand and decided to attribute it to her birthday.

I am going to be very sad if the UNREAL BLACK THING isn't a playable character. The name is just too hype for it not to be. I'm wondering who the girl in the line up between Orie and the red-black wing girl is. She shows up in the birthday art with Orie, and she's apparently the picture they use for their Twitter account. Makes me wonder just how important she is.
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Post by: Crescent Saber on October 09, 2011, 04:10:49 PM
Does anyone have that image of all the characters from way back?
Yeah, it's right here.
Interesting, no Gordeau here so it isn't necessarily a finalized who's in list.

oh God it's a shota why (unless it's Dorothy)

Yeah I noticed that in one of the screenshots. Wonder if it'll be just used for attacks or will the player have some degree of control over it.
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Post by: arvy on October 09, 2011, 09:46:15 PM
Does anyone have that image of all the characters from way back?
Yeah, it's right here.

Thanks, LivingShadow! :) I'm glad they are intent on using all these characters. I didn't see the Scythe guy in there. So maybe we'll see more surprises in the future.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 10, 2011, 04:31:23 AM
Whoever that grey-haired girl that shares the birthday pic with Orie is, she seems to be on that character concept. Anyone willing to make guesses?
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Post by: Crescent Saber on October 10, 2011, 06:21:28 AM
She might have some kind of connection with Orie possibly?
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Post by: arvy on October 10, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
I'm starting to think she is the  mascot character for FB's new title. Because they also use her as there Twitter icon for UNIB. http://twitter.com/#!/inbirthPR

Edit: More Orie http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/uniimg/harada_.jpg
new character from the preview image in the future soon?
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 10, 2011, 01:34:39 PM
I'm starting to think she is the  mascot character for FB's new title. Because they also use her as there Twitter icon for UNIB. http://twitter.com/#!/inbirthPR

Edit: More Orie http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/uniimg/harada_.jpg
new character from the preview image in the future soon?

Ah, I see.  Yeah, the birthday one is prob the girl to the right of Orie in the lineup, but the last one is the red wing girl I was talking about earlier.  Hope that friend of Orie's is more interesting than her base appearance looks.  She doesn't have any clear weapon or anything.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 10, 2011, 03:00:03 PM
I'm kinda hoping she's the knight for Orie's stand, kinda like they're a team rather than Orie summoning something else.
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on October 10, 2011, 06:58:13 PM
I am going to be very sad if the UNREAL BLACK THING isn't a playable character. The name is just too hype for it not to be. I'm wondering who the girl in the line up between Orie and the red-black wing girl is. She shows up in the birthday art with Orie, and she's apparently the picture they use for their Twitter account. Makes me wonder just how important she is.

Isnt the tronbeast an Unreal Black Thing? or some variation of one?
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 10, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
I'm kinda hoping she's the knight for Orie's stand, kinda like they're a team rather than Orie summoning something else.
I kind of doubt that.  Have you seen how huge her knight is?
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Post by: Sahgren on October 11, 2011, 12:13:29 AM
I'm kinda hoping she's the knight for Orie's stand, kinda like they're a team rather than Orie summoning something else.
I kind of doubt that.  Have you seen how huge her knight is?

Yeah, and the girl's even smaller than Orie in the line up picture, so that one doesn't hold exactly hold water. Just having fun with random speculation since we don't have much info, and she was shown alongside Orie.
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Post by: Komidol on October 11, 2011, 03:31:41 AM
She just looks like Ciel's Seven to me.  Orie is church-executioner style character too.  Seems pretty obvious. 
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 11, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
I'm starting to think she is the  mascot character for FB's new title. Because they also use her as there Twitter icon for UNIB. http://twitter.com/#!/inbirthPR

I wouldn't presume that much. In the time that I've been following their Twitter account, I distinctly remember at least Hyde taking what used to be Neco Arc's spot back in February around the game's unveiling. I wouldn't be surprised if others from the UNIB cast get their fair share, eventually (if they haven't already).



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Post by: Crescent Saber on October 12, 2011, 07:01:04 AM
She just looks like Ciel's Seven to me.  Orie is church-executioner style character too.  Seems pretty obvious.

I'm inclinded to think this too. Like maybe the girl can just transform into the knight or something in combat and when she's not in combat she looks like that.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 12, 2011, 09:11:35 AM
She just looks like Ciel's Seven to me.  Orie is church-executioner style character too.  Seems pretty obvious.

I'm inclinded to think this too. Like maybe the girl can just transform into the knight or something in combat and when she's not in combat she looks like that.

I personally doubt this. I think Orie is probably pulling something along the lines of Wara. And if I remember correctly she had several possible partners.
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Post by: Crescent Saber on October 12, 2011, 12:40:25 PM
I could see that as a possibility too. Maybe she just creates the knight herself.
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 12, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
I just figured the stand was a spirit or something, rather than an actual person.  Probably should get someone to take a look at her profile to see if it says anything on the matter.  Same with Gordeau, for that matter, since he's a big question mark right now.
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Post by: Erkz on October 12, 2011, 02:51:25 PM
I just figured the stand was a spirit or something, rather than an actual person.  Probably should get someone to take a look at her profile to see if it says anything on the matter.  Same with Gordeau, for that matter, since he's a big question mark right now.

Gordeau's an invincible mercenary trying to stop his childhood friend Hilda from getting "Amnesia" (Spiral of Oblivion in Kanji)  or something like that.

Orie's an orphan raised by a cult an organization striving for world peace called LichtKreis (Halo in Kanji :\ ) after her parents were eaten by UNREAL BLACK THINGS. She's also under orders from the organization to get "Amnesia". Or more info on it anyway.




...

FB's been hanging around Nasu too long.
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Post by: Exciel on October 12, 2011, 02:56:01 PM
Spiral of Oblivion, the Kara no Kyoukai chapter that never was.


http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20111012/1318347598

Blog post about this game, MBAACC1.07 being delayed, PC net stuff, and HD Melty.
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Post by: Erkz on October 12, 2011, 03:52:55 PM
Spiral of Oblivion, the Kara no Kyoukai chapter that never was.


http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20111012/1318347598

Blog post about this game, MBAACC1.07 being delayed, PC net stuff, and HD Melty.

lol

Narita - Wow. These graphics suck.^^; Hey, Type-Moon, let's do an HD ve-
Type-Moon - No.
Narita - Okay, we won't. ^^

Paraphrased of course.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 12, 2011, 05:06:46 PM
I just figured the stand was a spirit or something, rather than an actual person.  Probably should get someone to take a look at her profile to see if it says anything on the matter.  Same with Gordeau, for that matter, since he's a big question mark right now.
Orie's an orphan raised by a cult an organization striving for world peace called LichtKreis (Halo in Kanji :\ ) after her parents were eaten by UNREAL BLACK THINGS. She's also under orders from the organization to get "Amnesia". Or more info on it anyway.

"LichtKreis"? Is this supposed to happen in Germany, then? Or in Europe at least.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 13, 2011, 04:36:07 AM
Probably Japan, it hasn't stopped them from using German before. See all of Warc's moveset.
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Post by: Sahgren on October 13, 2011, 10:36:08 AM
Probably Japan, it hasn't stopped them from using German before. See all of Warc's moveset.

Mentioned before, but that'd be an interesting name choice for Japan. All of the names of the revealed cast are based off of European locations/people or are of a European country's origin.

Still can very much imagine it being in Japan, though.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 13, 2011, 11:35:54 AM
Another thing, I don't know of any places outside of Japan with this architectural style.

http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_ori01.jpg
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Post by: Sahgren on October 13, 2011, 12:32:05 PM
Another thing, I don't know of any places outside of Japan with this architectural style.

http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_ori01.jpg

I don't think I'll mind, I like the way the stage looks.

This is the first time I've noticed that Orie leaves an after-image for that attack.
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 14, 2011, 03:33:21 AM
Personally, I think the stages are the weakest point, visually.  They look horribly dated and don't really have a visual style that compliments the sprites.  It's probably the only thing I don't immediately like.
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 14, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
Personally, I think the stages are the weakest point, visually.  They look horribly dated and don't really have a visual style that compliments the sprites.  It's probably the only thing I don't immediately like.

Agreed, however I think the worst part is that they, much like a number of MB's own stages before them, appear so utterly lifeless. I mean, are we to assume these people are always able to fight in places where no person or animal happens to be nearby to watch the festivities? Nothing else EVER goes on while two opponents are fighting each other?  :laffo:

C'mon, FB. If your newest fighting game somehow makes SF2:WW's stages look absolutely vibrant in comparison, something's not quite right...
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Post by: Sahgren on October 14, 2011, 02:06:40 PM
I'll admit that they aren't best stages I've ever seen. I'm used to BB stages, which are considerably more active than a lot of other FG stages I've seen.

Still, aside from the subway stage shown, I don't particularly mind the aesthetic of the backgrounds. I won't exactly be sad to use them.
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Post by: Greg on October 14, 2011, 02:16:31 PM
To tell you the truth, for the brief period of time where I tried playing BB, the backgrounds actually really bothered me. They're really too vibrant. It's hard to see what's going on sometimes with all of that flair.
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Post by: 7thfonon on October 14, 2011, 04:46:14 PM
Personally, I'm fine with how the stages look. Just as long as they add in some stylin music to go along with it.  8-)
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 14, 2011, 11:06:46 PM
Heh, now that is something I definitely am looking forward to. MB ended having some nice hummable beats, so here's hoping UNIB will be able to continue where its predecessor left off.
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Post by: Cristu on October 15, 2011, 09:25:20 AM
Heh, now that is something I definitely am looking forward to. MB ended having some nice hummable beats, so here's hoping UNIB will be able to continue where its predecessor left off.

If you wont play the new MB just die before saying it's over.
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Post by: Rowanism on October 15, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
Lichtkreis, yeah. The hell?

Also isn't it hard to fight with pumps?

On another note, if they are going for a new soundtrack, they better make some catchy tunes, and rock. The last thing I wanna hear is some hip hop in this game. But guessing from the first teaser the music is going to be good. They might even have some things up their sleeve since they don't have to rearrange old tunes for Melty :V

Also I expect animations to be awesome.
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Post by: fiendmaw on October 15, 2011, 01:40:22 PM
It's very likely the same composer will be used for UNIB,so its set in that department.
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 15, 2011, 09:33:13 PM
On that note, I feel like mbaa had a pretty decent diversity of music genres in the soundtrack.  I wouldn't mind more from the same artist.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 16, 2011, 07:27:27 AM
They had a2c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrba-D3LpC8) on board for Melty, I don't see there being any issues with quality.

If they can somehow get him and Number (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sFBPFzRfKA) 201 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfKTVbRvI04) to work together on something I think we'll end up with godlike music.
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Post by: Rowanism on October 16, 2011, 08:55:57 AM
Well #201 made also the OST for Ragnarok Battle Offline, which was epic.
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Post by: 3IIIT on October 16, 2011, 10:55:37 AM
Heh, now that is something I definitely am looking forward to. MB ended having some nice hummable beats, so here's hoping UNIB will be able to continue where its predecessor left off.

If you wont play the new MB just die before saying it's over.

Excuse me...what?
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Post by: Cristu on October 16, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
Excuse me...what?

There is no left off.
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Post by: LoliSauce on October 16, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
Cristu I can't understand what you're trying to say, but if it's something particularly insulting or inflammatory, there's no need for that. 
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Post by: Cristu on October 16, 2011, 05:33:25 PM
If no one understood then it might be my bad english, but saying "where it's predecessor left off" to me sounded like "MB is no more, UNiB will replace it".

If that's not the case I heartily apologise.
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Post by: LivingShadow on October 17, 2011, 05:58:39 AM
Heh, now that is something I definitely am looking forward to. MB ended having some nice hummable beats, so here's hoping UNIB will be able to continue where its predecessor left off.

Even if you wont play the new MB, it won't just die before saying it's over.
I believe this is a more correct way to say it.

At least, one interpretation of what was written.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on October 19, 2011, 06:20:19 AM
I don't think UNIB will be the end of MB. I mean MB is a great fighter and I'm sure the fans will continue to play it AND UNIB. I know I will. I can't see myself dropping this game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on October 19, 2011, 02:58:11 PM
If that's not the case I heartily apologise.

Yeah...definitely not what I had in mind. I meant more in the way of "continuing a trend".  ;D

But in any case, I'm sure Melty will probably stay around for a while. If nothing else, UNIB is looking to be an entirely different style of game from Melty, so I'm sure that will be more than enough reason for both games to be able to coexist alongside one another.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on October 21, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
We got Twitter icons! (http://gc.x90x.net/under-night-in-icons/) Seriously, that's the whole update.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on October 28, 2011, 12:11:17 PM
Double post!:

Q&A answers are up (http://inbirth.info/topic0006.html). It doesn't seem like anything is all that important, but Google translate might just be throwing me through a loop, so someone who can translate it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on October 28, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Double post!:

Q&A answers are up (http://inbirth.info/topic0006.html). It doesn't seem like anything is all that important, but Google translate might just be throwing me through a loop, so someone who can translate it would be appreciated.

Quote
Q - UNREAL BLACK THING, PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THREE SIZES!
A -
Waldstein - 3 sizes? Leave it to me! *rips clothes off*
Linne - Stop.

 :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on October 29, 2011, 07:49:23 AM
Well, Linne said something about Melty experince not being wasted. The gameplay will probably be similar enough for us to catch on rather quickly.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on October 30, 2011, 03:31:50 PM
Quote
Q - UNREAL BLACK THING, PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THREE SIZES!
A -
Waldstein - 3 sizes? Leave it to me! *rips clothes off*
Linne - Stop.
Wow, I thought you were joking until I looked at the page.  Godlike.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on November 01, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
The gameplay will probably be similar enough for us to catch on rather quickly.
That goes without saying... go with what you know, same people similar setup. My question lay with the differences, how different is it from MB.... which is a big question.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: arvy on November 02, 2011, 01:49:51 AM
I know this  is getting ahead of myself.. But, has there been any talk of arcade release date or console talk?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on November 02, 2011, 02:11:53 AM
I know this  is getting ahead of myself.. But, has there been any talk of arcade release date or console talk?
None to my knowledge.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 02, 2011, 12:57:36 PM
I know this  is getting ahead of myself.. But, has there been any talk of arcade release date or console talk?

We're still just sitting on the "Spring 2012" that they said a while ago.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 04, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
More Twitter icons! SD this time. (http://inbirth.info/topic0007.html) My dream is to one day post an update actually related to the game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on November 11, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
3 sizes of the ladies are visible now.
http://inbirth.info/chr_ori.html
http://inbirth.info/chr_lin.html
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on November 11, 2011, 11:42:59 AM
There's a few more questions up on the topics page. Mostly character building.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on November 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Lol not surprised about Orie's measurements.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 18, 2011, 12:08:03 PM
More Q&A and a Hyde wallpaper. (http://inbirth.info/topic0009.html) Are they attempting to see if it's possible to create anti-hype for a game nobody knows about?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on November 18, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
We need some goddamn system mechanics reveals FRENCH BREAD!! >:(
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on November 19, 2011, 08:43:59 AM
Somebody email them questions about the seed meter.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on November 21, 2011, 09:06:14 AM
I'm curious to see who those two new characters are going to be.

But I also want system mechanics. The aniticipation is killing me. I must know this game plays.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on November 21, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
I'm curious to see who those two new characters are going to be.

But I also want system mechanics. The aniticipation is killing me. I must know this game plays.

In case anyone is wondering, he's referring to the silhouettes now on the character page. Judging by the silhouette I think that the seventh character is going to be the Unreal Black Thing, Not quite sure about the eighth one.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on November 22, 2011, 11:17:19 PM
I see a big collar and a dumb hair in the silhouettes .  Unreal black thing wouldn't have either of those.  If anything, 7th will be the one from the far right of the old lineup with the elaborate clothing and big sword.  No idea who 8th could be though, but here's hoping for blade wing goth loli.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 23, 2011, 12:13:56 AM
Number 8 has an ahoge, so I'm gonna bet on winged goth loli or black and red girl two to the right of big sword dude in the old line up.

At least I think those two have ahoges, the picture is freakin' small. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/images/diary/F/French-Bread/2010-07-07.jpg)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on November 23, 2011, 06:27:27 AM
I see a big collar and a dumb hair in the silhouettes.
That's not hair, the UBT has a weirdly shaped head. Take another look at it. (and the blown up version of that image on page 15.)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on November 23, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
Dumb hair = ahoge.  I was referring to 7 as collar and 8 as dumb hair.  My bad.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 24, 2011, 12:14:32 AM
Dumb hair = ahoge. I was referring to 7 as collar and 8 as dumb hair.  My bad.

Sorry, I had forgotten that that's what it translated into.   :slowpoke:

The hair(?) in number 7 reminds me of a guy with a 1950's pompadour hairdo. From the old character line up, I'm not entirely certain who that fits with.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on November 25, 2011, 06:17:19 AM
Linne wallpaper this time. (http://inbirth.info/topic0010.html) More importantly, they're apparently going to be in the Arcadia released on November 30th, so maybe we'll actually get some system info next week.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rei on December 02, 2011, 02:07:31 AM
unreal black thing has arrived
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on December 02, 2011, 02:08:22 AM
http://inbirth.info/
Two new characters:Unreal Black Thing and Red Len(with Lambda's swords).
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 02, 2011, 02:45:56 AM
Regardless of official name, Merkava shall forever be the UNREAL BLACK THING to me.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on December 02, 2011, 05:32:36 AM
unreal black thing has arrived
Called it.

I'm going to guess that Vatista is a zoning character with no other knowledge.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on December 02, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: Merkava
WAGA NA WA MERKAVA

ohgod it's UNREAL BLACKUMEN.

Quote from: Vatista
I am the autonomic nervous system "Autonomic Nerve". Designation "BaVatista".

uh... okay.



More  Orie gameplay vids when?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on December 03, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
sweet.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on December 03, 2011, 11:16:33 PM
unreal black thing has arrived
What the hell? Still nothing more about the game?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on December 07, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
I like that unreal black thing has his ability named after Jormungandr, the world snake of Norse mythos.  Makes it feel like a herald for the end of times and whatnot. 

Also Vatista (that name's not cute at all) has ability named Restriction and her weapon is the Crimson Wing "Nanaka".  Been had hype for loli with blade wings.  Her outfit looks like something from Tron though.  Actually, I shouldn't talk shit; she looks cool as hell.  I really like that kind of bold contrast style in general.  Seriously though, Tron loli with blade wings?  I'm going IN. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on December 09, 2011, 01:43:56 AM
http://inbirth.info/character.html
Website was updated with screenshots of Unreal Black Thing and Vatista.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on December 09, 2011, 05:48:32 AM
Yeah, the attack hitboxes are huge in this game.

Vatista looks fun to watch. and UBT looks like he's inspired by Nero.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: arvy on December 09, 2011, 06:15:00 AM
I can picture the new hype term is TYPE 01 BESERKER MODE!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9DCKahS2No&feature=related

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on December 09, 2011, 09:54:46 AM
If that bite in the 3rd UBT pic is his 2A I swear to God I will mash that shit like no tomorrow.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on December 09, 2011, 10:21:46 AM
Yeah, the attack hitboxes are huge in this game.

Vatista looks fun to watch. and UBT looks like he's inspired by Nero.
I was noticing that... makes me wonder how move recovery will he handled. Sort of hoping for a fast pace game here.

Vatista... about that thing about "beating that hateful blazblue," I am curious with this one. Looks interesting, wondering if she plays like what I think she does.
UBT... Merkava... Ok... I have nothing that I can really say about this one. He's going to be a wicked fight from the looks of it, all that range...


You, know, it would be nice to have another video trailer at this point with the other characters so far.

Also Vatista (that name's not cute at all) has ability named Restriction and her weapon is the Crimson Wing "Nanaka".  Been had hype for loli with blade wings.  Her outfit looks like something from Tron though.  Actually, I shouldn't talk shit; she looks cool as hell.  I really like that kind of bold contrast style in general.  Seriously though, Tron loli with blade wings?  I'm going IN. 
Yeah, I will give you that... her design is unique. Have they spoken about how abilities stand out in the game play?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 09, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
From what I know, they haven't mentioned anything about individual playstyles. All we know are from the trailer and the ultra low quality Orie vs Carmine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2q85ktvZrNw#t=497s) and Hyde vs Waldstein (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2q85ktvZrNw#t=432s) video.

Range looks crazy in this game. Linne and Gordeau look like short range characters simply because everyone else seems to be able to cover half the screen with a hitbox. We even got Waldstein punishing backdashes with his grab in the trailer... Depending on how balanced it is, this could either be really stupid or awesome to me.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on December 09, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Range looks crazy in this game. Linne and Gordeau look like short range characters simply because everyone else seems to be able to cover half the screen with a hitbox. We even got Waldstein punishing backdashes with his grab in the trailer... Depending on how balanced it is, this could either be really stupid or awesome to me.
I don't think there's any real question about french bread's ability to balance a fighter.

Yeah, I will give you that... her design is unique. Have they spoken about how abilities stand out in the game play?
Not that I've seen yet.  Hopefully we see more video footage soon to answer a lot of questions we have.

And to be honest, I'm kind of hoping for frenchbread to go in a different direction than your standard anime fighter, but I can't say I'd hate it if it was.  I'm just hoping this game reinvigorates my desire to play fighters, cuz lately I have no solid interest.  =\
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on December 09, 2011, 06:32:06 PM
http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_vat01.jpg (http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_vat01.jpg)

Vatista saying fuck off Egyptian j.C
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on December 09, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
From what I know, they haven't mentioned anything about individual playstyles. All we know are from the trailer and the ultra low quality Orie vs Carmine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2q85ktvZrNw#t=497s) and Hyde vs Waldstein (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2q85ktvZrNw#t=432s) video.

Range looks crazy in this game. Linne and Gordeau look like short range characters simply because everyone else seems to be able to cover half the screen with a hitbox. We even got Waldstein punishing backdashes with his grab in the trailer... Depending on how balanced it is, this could either be really stupid or awesome to me.

It looks really interesting to me. My biggest issue in fighters is finding a character with decent pokes. Almost dropped Nanaya for Ryougi in AA.
At least it wont be an issue here, plus Linne looks exceptionally fast.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on December 09, 2011, 10:14:16 PM
So...

Tron lines signify FLS users, and no tron lines signify EXS users?

Okay.

UNREAL BLACK THING GET HYPE.

Unreal Black Loli is pretty hype too, I guess.

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 09, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
I'm not worried about balance in the long run; French Bread is awesome about that. I'm just used to the concept of the first installment being the least balanced, especially if they're trying something experimental as a whole or something new to them as developers.

Unreal Black Loli is pretty hype too, I guess.

Now I can't get the concept of Unreal Black Thing x Vatista fanart out of my head...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 7thfonon on December 09, 2011, 11:08:08 PM
I wonder how this will affect the zoning by movement/mobility (as opposed to zoning by using attacks) if everyone has so much range? Unless maybe the screen pans out when characters distance themselves or something, giving more room for people to jump, walk, dash, etc.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on December 09, 2011, 11:08:50 PM
Not that I've seen yet.  Hopefully we see more video footage soon to answer a lot of questions we have.

And to be honest, I'm kind of hoping for frenchbread to go in a different direction than your standard anime fighter, but I can't say I'd hate it if it was.  I'm just hoping this game reinvigorates my desire to play fighters, cuz lately I have no solid interest.  =\
A video now would be nice...

At this point and time, I have been play some KOF. But outside of that, I have not really bothered with the usual suspects (SF, MVC). I think that I missed the boat on Street Fighter 4 to ever really catch up. And Marvel... so. much. salt.... I can't really play Marvel anymore...
I honestly doubt that FB will step out of it's anime fighter mould, but then again... this is their thing, who knows, they might experiment.
I don't think there's any real question about french bread's ability to balance a fighter.
Well, I would not say that they are subject to a free ride on the balancing either...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on December 09, 2011, 11:56:47 PM
Interesting how character sprites can cover the health bars.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on December 10, 2011, 04:06:38 AM
http://inbirth.info/character.html
Website was updated with screenshots of Unreal Black Thing and Vatista.
OMG, zato 01 confirmed
http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_mer01.jpg
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: arvy on December 10, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
The background is really beautiful. Kinda reminds me of that bridge scene from Kara no Kyoukai. I'm looking forward to background hype.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on December 12, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
Regarding range, Melty was sort of all about range already. I think they're just extending the concept so everyone has normals on par with Ryougi, Wara, and Nero. However, with these huge hitboxes we also have to consider how much it extends their own hitbox.

Linne might actually have a bit of an advantage over characters like Waldstein because her hitbox is so small compared to the rest of the characters and probably doesn't extend much with her attacks. And of course Vatista will probably have a similar advantage. The difference between the two looks to be that Vatista will probably be a lot slower than Linne but have much larger attack hitboxes.


Edit: Also, Waldstein Wallpaper is up.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 12, 2011, 12:50:24 PM
Regarding range, Melty was sort of all about range already. I think they're just extending the concept so everyone has normals on par with Ryougi, Wara, and Nero. However, with these huge hitboxes we also have to consider how much it extends their own hitbox.

Linne might actually have a bit of an advantage over characters like Waldstein because her hitbox is so small compared to the rest of the characters and probably doesn't extend much with her attacks. And of course Vatista will probably have a similar advantage. The difference between the two looks to be that Vatista will probably be a lot slower than Linne but have much larger attack hitboxes.

That does make me wonder how much of a factor character specific combos might be. Like a hitconfirm at a certain range on Waldstein wouldn't work against Linne/Vatista and the like.

Ah, the wallpapers. I don't mind them nearly as much when they're tagged on to actual updates. By themselves, they just get my hopes up for the sake of crushing them.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on December 13, 2011, 10:01:23 AM
That does make me wonder how much of a factor character specific combos might be. Like a hitconfirm at a certain range on Waldstein wouldn't work against Linne/Vatista and the like.
I don't think that will be an issue because of how huge the attack hitboxes are.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on December 15, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
Merkava looks interesting.

Vatista looks really cool to me. I love her design.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on December 16, 2011, 03:59:26 AM
more twitter icons <3 http://inbirth.info/topic0013.html (http://inbirth.info/topic0013.html)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6652/twiconwalxmas.jpg)  :psyduck:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on December 17, 2011, 11:20:39 PM
Oh French Bread.... :slowpoke:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on December 19, 2011, 05:58:27 PM
I don't want any part in his reindeer games.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 22, 2011, 10:31:11 AM
I almost feel bad for getting people's hopes up and posting this...

This year's present from Ecole/French Bread: A Christmas themed picture and a rerelease of the holiday Twitter avas. (http://inbirth.info/topics.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on December 24, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
UNREAL BLACK ORNAMENT.

Holy fuck, christmas avatar for unreal black thing is kind of disturbing.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on December 31, 2011, 06:39:52 PM
Happy New Years from French Bread. (http://inbirth.info/topics.html)

It's new years, so I can't really blame them for a not-actually-an-update. But still, it's not-actually-an-update.  :emo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on January 02, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
Happy New Years from French Bread. (http://inbirth.info/topics.html)

It's new years, so I can't really blame them for a not-actually-an-update. But still, it's not-actually-an-update.  :emo:
So when is that Beta test?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on January 02, 2012, 06:36:36 PM
Well, last word they were shooting for early this year.  I imagine we'll get some more concrete release news at some point in first quarter of the year.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on January 02, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Well, last word they were shooting for early this year.  I imagine we'll get some more concrete release news at some point in first quarter of the year.

What might you expect any word on it?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 02, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
They did say that the game should be released in Spring 2012, so I really do hope that Loli is right and we start seeing more consistent game info updates. It's either that or they delay the game again.

...I just jinxed us, didn't I?  :gonk:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on January 03, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
Even in the case of more delays, a smart company throws out more tantalizing information to keep people hooked through the wait.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 06, 2012, 09:29:26 AM
Carmine wallpaper and Unreal Black Thing and Vatista Twitter avas. (http://inbirth.info/topic0016.html) On the plus side, they're releasing these all at once instead of staggering them out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on January 06, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
There's also two more character silhouettes up.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on January 07, 2012, 12:44:36 PM
..I just jinxed us, didn't I?  :gonk:
:gonk: Damn it, why!!!?
There's also two more character silhouettes up.
Huh?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on January 07, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
Huh?

http://inbirth.info/character.html
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 13, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Orie wallpaper and some Q&A. (http://inbirth.info/topic0017.html) The two new characters have yet to be revealed.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on January 13, 2012, 02:11:41 PM
Yay Orie!

Also if they are shooting for a sping 2012 release they better step on it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 20, 2012, 02:19:22 AM
Gordeau wallpaper this time. (http://inbirth.info/topics.html) On the positive side, they'll have to release info on the two new characters eventually in order to keep giving us Twitter avas/wallpapers instead of actual updates.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on January 20, 2012, 09:27:07 AM
Huh?

http://inbirth.info/character.html

Looks like its time for another round of "who's that pokemon?"
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on January 21, 2012, 12:54:41 AM
ITS PIKACHU!!

...

DAMNIT!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 27, 2012, 12:37:10 AM
Merkava Unreal Black Thing wallpaper this time. (http://inbirth.info/topic0019.html) There's also an announcement that they'll be in the Jan 30th edition of Arcadia, so let's hope that some useful info will be in there.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on January 30, 2012, 03:32:44 AM
i'm not sure...but maybe it's the release date that was published in the arcadia magazine?
http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=inbirthPR (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=inbirthPR)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on January 30, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
i'm not sure...but maybe it's the release date that was published in the arcadia magazine?
http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=inbirthPR (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=inbirthPR)

Quote from: InbirthPR
Good morninverse everyone!

...

 :bricks:



But no, it's just "Go buy the Arcadia that came out on January 30th to read up on UNIB."
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on January 31, 2012, 05:37:45 PM
Google translate of this (http://www.arcadiamagazine.com/cgi-bin/news_view.cgi?id=342) says that they'll be releasing more character info soon and mentions something about AOU (deciding on which version they'll be running for the show?).
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on February 03, 2012, 12:19:29 AM
We got unreal black character updates!

http://inbirth.info/topic0020.html (http://inbirth.info/topic0020.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 03, 2012, 02:24:53 AM
nanaya confirmed   :V
http://inbirth.info/chr_set.html (http://inbirth.info/chr_set.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 03, 2012, 02:41:02 AM
SETH

Height: 169cm
Weight: 49kg
Birthday: 01/07
BloodType: O
Ability: EXS of Chain Locks "Kerykeion"
Weapon: Twin Swords - Eliminator



YUZURIHA

Height: 169cm
Weight: 53kg
3size: 88/57/84   
Birthday: 07/20
BloodType: B
Ability: EXS of Dying A Glorious Death "Einzel Lost" (The Long Night of Spiritual Darkness) [I think it's supposed to be some sort of pun on "eizellast" but I don't speak deutsche-go so...]
Weapon: Iris Sword - God's Honored Path



... Nnngh, some of those names are going into Tales of... territory of not-making-any-sense-but-let's-use-them-because-they-sound-cool.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 03, 2012, 03:16:05 AM
Two more character that don't show up at all from the concept art line up. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/images/diary/F/French-Bread/2010-07-07.jpg) Unless they decided to just scrap the others on that list, I do have to wonder what they'll be doing.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on February 03, 2012, 04:35:36 AM
It's possible that the others will be DLC/Update characters.It's safe to assume they had alot of character designs to work with.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 03, 2012, 06:26:10 AM
We need character bio translations!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on February 03, 2012, 07:22:36 AM
nanaya confirmed   :V
http://inbirth.info/chr_set.html (http://inbirth.info/chr_set.html)

Fuck, got trolled.

I totally would have mained him and this fucking game if it was real
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 04, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
So.  Anyone notice that a character actually has very small weapons for once?  Like, everyone looks at Linne and thinks "oh, she's the short-reach speedster of the bunch" but she still has full on swords.  He has blue dragon priest knives.  They're very small.  Hope he can handle those hitboxes.

Anyway, thanks Erkz.  Your quick translations of the chara stats are fun to have.  The two new guys look pretty hype.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 04, 2012, 06:36:25 PM
^He must have very good priority and speed ala Miyako.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 04, 2012, 07:10:28 PM
aoko and nanaya
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Red Leather Jacket on February 04, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Love Seth's design.

I will definitely be giving him a shot when this game finally comes out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 05, 2012, 08:15:11 AM
So.  Anyone notice that a character actually has very small weapons for once?  Like, everyone looks at Linne and thinks "oh, she's the short-reach speedster of the bunch" but she still has full on swords.  He has blue dragon priest knives.  They're very small.  Hope he can handle those hitboxes.
That didn't stop Ryougi from having gigantic hitboxes (for melty).
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 05, 2012, 08:31:04 AM
good news: now they can carry on with more twitter icons!  :V
but "getting serious", hope they reveal more about the game in AOU...and that they release a console version not too long after the game hit the consoles. If they wait too much the hype that the arcade launch can create will disapear before the game hit the consoles (like what happened with chaos code)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 05, 2012, 08:58:26 AM
good news: now they can carry on with more twitter icons!  :V
but "getting serious", hope they reveal more about the game in AOU...and that they release a console version not too long after the game hit the arcades. If they wait too much the hype that the arcade launch can create will disapear before the game hit the consoles (like what happened with chaos code)

To be fair, I don't really think that much is their concern, at the moment. For right now at least, their main thing should be to generate an arcade release that is successful. Then they can feel free to worry about the consumer version, later.

Besides, the more time they take to mull over the consumer version, and insure such things like a quality netcode solution are in place? The better. Because short of FB swallowing their pride and getting ASW's netcode for their own console port, that issue will definitely be something I'll be wondering about.   
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: HARD_BREAD on February 05, 2012, 09:22:56 AM
... Nnngh, some of those names are going into Tales of... territory of not-making-any-sense-but-let's-use-them-because-they-sound-cool.
You make that sound like a bad thing.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 05, 2012, 09:54:16 AM
I'm just waiting for the screenshots that they'll inevitably put out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 05, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
aoko and nanaya

dammit. beaten to the punch yet again.
2 more characters on my comparison list, right next to Carmine = Roa and Lynne = Ryougi.

Seth looks insanely cool. Like so badass its unfair to the rest of the cast.

So.  Anyone notice that a character actually has very small weapons for once?  Like, everyone looks at Linne and thinks "oh, she's the short-reach speedster of the bunch" but she still has full on swords.  He has blue dragon priest knives.  They're very small.  Hope he can handle those hitboxes.

He more than likely has some kind of ace-in-the-hole. I mean just look at Carmine. He has....his hands. But then footage shows him throwing blood crystals all over the place.
Seth more than likely has a more niche use for those daggers than just cutting people. Or he could just play like Ryougi :3
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 05, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
He more than likely has some kind of ace-in-the-hole. I mean just look at Carmine. He has....his hands. But then footage shows him throwing blood crystals all over the place.
Seth more than likely has a more niche use for those daggers than just cutting people. Or he could just play like Ryougi :3

Complete with stupid fast wake up speed?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 05, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
Complete with stupid fast wake up speed?

Why not?
Hell, maybe even knife throw resets and huge knife pickup range.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 06, 2012, 06:14:05 AM
SETH

Height: 169cm
Weight: 49kg
Birthday: 01/07
BloodType: O
Ability: EXS of Chain Locks "Kerykeion"
Weapon: Twin Swords - Eliminator


Chains=Hazama anyone? He even has double blades.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 06, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
So we're going to have a Hazama with Ryougi's knife, gravity, and wake up speed? Sounds fun...

AOU is apparently going to be on the 17-18th. (http://www.intergameonline.com/events/103/aou-2012) Since UNIB is appearing then, we may actually get system info then.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 07, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
good news: now they can carry on with more twitter icons!  :V
but "getting serious", hope they reveal more about the game in AOU...and that they release a console version not too long after the game hit the consoles. If they wait too much the hype that the arcade launch can create will disappear before the game hit the consoles.

At this point hype is not a concern, it better for them to focus on each release as it's own thing at this point than try for a rather complicated staggered release window, like what you are suggesting. I would say that a six to nine month window between releases would be fine.... so long as the game itself is solid.

I am more than willing to wait for a good game.
So we're going to have a Hazama with Ryougi's knife, gravity, and wake up speed? Sounds fun...
Maybe, maybe not....
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on February 07, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
Why didn't they release a new god damn video yet?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 07, 2012, 11:09:50 AM
SETH

Height: 169cm
Weight: 49kg
Birthday: 01/07
BloodType: O
Ability: EXS of Chain Locks "Kerykeion"
Weapon: Twin Swords - Eliminator


Chains=Hazama anyone? He even has double blades.

Yes. God yes. How did I not catch that?
I'm really hoping this is accurate speculation.
Hazama in a game that isnt brutally slow would feel so GOOD.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 10, 2012, 01:39:33 AM
http://inbirth.info/topic0021.html (http://inbirth.info/topic0021.html). translate request please  :gonk:
And thinking again fot a while, i I found myself agreeing 3iiit  and Forte Wily. A solid arcade port is better. They will have time to think about anything else after.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 10, 2012, 02:34:27 AM
UNIB Playable Display Build will be available at AOU's Sega Booth on the 18th of February.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 10, 2012, 03:30:00 AM
So it'll be playable? Sweet! Definite system and character info then.

And I agree that they should wait. It's less likely to bankrupt them if they just start off with an arcade port. If we still really want the game, we'll just have to hype the fuck out of this and convince them to make it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: fiendmaw on February 10, 2012, 05:47:42 AM
Are the visitors allowed to shakycam some footage?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: arvy on February 10, 2012, 09:06:34 AM
But, you won't be able to stand up because of the 1000 x hype chamber. Causing people to mostly catch picture of the floor.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 10, 2012, 10:20:50 AM
But, you won't be able to stand up because of the 1000 x hype chamber. Causing people to mostly catch picture of the floor.

Hat rig. Problem somewhat solved.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 10, 2012, 12:19:57 PM
They have an AOU2012 page. (http://am-show.sega.jp/aou12/lineup/unib/)

Notable that the SEED meter seems to be renamed to GRD. Please tell me that's not Libra/Primers...

Also, the damage counter seems to take the previous damage and show you how much is added on for the next hit.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 10, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
no homo, but + heat for Sahgren and Erkz
just curious about that dragon http://am-show.sega.jp/aou12/lineup/unib/images/02b.jpg (http://am-show.sega.jp/aou12/lineup/unib/images/02b.jpg)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 10, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
http://inbirth.info/topic0021.html (http://inbirth.info/topic0021.html). translate request please  :gonk:
And thinking again fot a while, i I found myself agreeing 3iiit  and Forte Wily. A solid arcade port is better. They will have time to think about anything else after.

Yep. It's one of the reasons I'm concerned about the Persona fighter. 3 months or thereabouts for an arcade run may get the game in the hands of consumers sooner, but the other shoe has to drop somewhere...

Anyway, the sooner we here about UNIB starting its arcade release, the better. I would like to be able to play this game before the Mayan calendar predicts that we'll all be eaten alive by UNREAL BLACK THINGS.  :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 10, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
I'm guessing the dragon floating next to Linne is like Gii floating around Rachel. IE: Probably just there for story purposes.

This is the first time it's ever shown up, so I could be very wrong about that.

I would like to be able to play this game before the Mayan calendar predicts that we'll all be eaten alive by UNREAL BLACK THINGS.  :V

All else fails, we'll be playing this game in football gear and biker leathers.

Also looks like they have the bios in English on the character select screen, right under the character portrait. Problem is, the text is too small for me to read.  :gonk:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 11, 2012, 01:10:35 AM
The older pictures showed that the enemy's SEED meter can encroach into your own, but it doesn't seem to be showing in this new set of pictures so far. I stand corrected. None of the pictures on the official site show this anymore. Must have been in the first trailer.

Also, based on this picture (http://am-show.sega.jp/aou12/lineup/unib/images/02b.jpg), for both sides, at the GRD meter, the first units closest to the centre are both consisting of plain solid colour instead of the normal highlighted design on the other units. Not only that, they are also filled more than halfway. My best guess is that they are filling up in realtime like how the Guard meter does now in MBCC.

Seems like Gordeau has Warachia's "extend fingernails" characteristic. (http://am-show.sega.jp/aou12/lineup/unib/images/04b.jpg)

And I like how they display the old and new damage. Easy to tell how much more damage a new move adds to the combo.

As far as I can read, the character bios under the character portraits are, yes you guessed it, incomprehensible Engrish. Although I do see something about Linne's elder brother.

The character select screen shows all 10 slots filled with the characters we know. But the official site has one more "Unknown" character slot in the Characters section...

They seem to have removed some graphical aspects of the game, comparing the new pictures with the ones on the official site, notably the round timer, the design of each victory point, the SEED and GRD meter units and EXS meter design (at the end of the meter). I don't know why I bother with menial observations like these.

EDIT: Did anybody else notice that GRD can be short for Guard?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 11, 2012, 02:02:24 AM
Its irrelevant now, considering that the GRD meter is clearly different, but i still wanna know wut the hell the SEED meter was. The overlap is gone now, I can't help but be curious as to wut that was.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on February 11, 2012, 10:00:48 AM
For Linne it's something like this.
"She repents. For a conclusion with the source of old eternal cause and effect, and an older brother.
The sword for the first time in one for which it has searched long.
Encounter with the holder Conversion of the stagnant title.
Probably, the ripple shows the ??? of her tale soon."

Pretty much Engrish, outside of the idea that she has a brother.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 12, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
Tried my hand at translating Merkava's (UNREAL BLACK THING MAN) character bio from the main site.

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A mysterious man(?) who has the strikingly resembling form of darkness/nothingness/emptiness/the void. The thing that has the form of darkness/nothingness/emptiness/the void is an existence that transcends "false born things" (read as Inverse), the result of becoming a "reborn thing" (read as Reverse), many things with different natured existences but same interests, the persistent woman called "dazzling darkness", nowadays a little depressing weather is felt. (HELP ME)

Now, it is an empty night. Many Inverses are collected together, the "dazzling darkness" are felt to be planning something. Just as well.

He steps out to hunt in the night when the Inverses gather. To satisfy his hunger for flesh.

As you can see, I have a lot of trouble. If you want to have a go at it, right click the page and view its source code. The character bio is available there to be copypasta'd into a Japanese translator (or each character into a Japanese dictionary like how I did it).

EDIT: Some on Carmine too. Probably extremely inaccurate due to my sucky moonspeak skills.

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A young man who paid the price of his own life force to manipulate his unique ability.

Always roaming the night. Now, the man he knocked out heard of the end of a group of ability users, "AMNESIA" downtown.

That man, on the verge of leaving, stayed, a "dazzling darkness" named Hilda. Then, that woman said she was the most powerful "fake born one" (read as Inverse). Carmine who heard this was overjoyed. There were other fellows who enjoyed rage. The reason to attack the organisation in ten minutes. (HELP ME)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 12, 2012, 09:59:59 AM
As I said before, I think the Seed meter was a combination of Burst and cancel. Probably the same for this build but only gameplay info will tell.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on February 12, 2012, 11:22:22 AM
it's just speculation but....at least by my eyes, mb have a lot of alpha 3 in the mechanics. The damange reduction by pressing buttons when the hits conect, the ex guard that restore guard meter and the 3 grooves are probably what makes me fell this way. Because of this, the first thing that come to my mind when i see this grd is bunkers or circuit spark breaking one of these blocks of guard meter and don't returning for a time or until the end of the round. But just speculation
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 12, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
I'm making my guess based on that tiny bit of gameplay that they streamed a while back.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 12, 2012, 03:53:09 PM
Some old news [January 27th?! How did I miss that?!] regarding the AOU show.

- AOU build is only 50% complete.
- Playable characters will be Hyde, Linne, Waren [sic. Maybe Waldstein?], Carmine, Orie and Gordeau.

There was something about a new character, but I'm not sure if it's referring to a new character to be revealed at AOU or if it's referring to Seth and Yuzuriha. I'm leaning towards the latter.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 12, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
Do they mean that they're only halfway through finishing the build that they'll show at AOU, or that the game is only 50% complete?

If it's the second one, I'm a little bit worried about them meeting the projected "Spring 2012" release date.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on February 12, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
Do they mean that they're only halfway through finishing the build that they'll show at AOU, or that the game is only 50% complete?

If it's the second one, I'm a little bit worried about them meeting the projected "Spring 2012" release date.
If they have 50% content then they probably are closer to 75% complete because they more or less finished the programming portion of it.

Also keep in mind that demo builds are commonly branched off of the actual project. So, the project itself could have advanced further than the demo build shows.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 12, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
Translated Seth's bio. This one went pretty well.

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A young man whose identity is unknown, a "dark killer" (read as Assassin) feared by those who knows his existence. Seems to be acting under someone's instructions, suddenly appearing in front of a particular ability user to challenge him, for who or what purpose. Nothing is clear.

He hears of the name of the "night blade princess" Linne---. Upon hearing that name, the expressionless assassin's face turns dim.

Since that day, he, unordered by anyone, wanders the streets to search for the princess he has not seen.

Linne is pretty famous.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 12, 2012, 08:20:39 PM
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A rowdy young girl who comes from a family of guardians, who had in the past been assigned to protect the land. She now roams the night with a sword as long as she is tall, simply looking for entertainment.

Shoryuken's (http://shoryuken.com/2012/02/05/french-bread-adds-two-characters-to-under-night-in-birth-website/) translation of Yuzuriha's bio. Considering how much longer the text seems in Japanese, I can't help but feel like they've left a bit out.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 12, 2012, 08:38:42 PM
As far as I can tell, the bios in the site consist of a simple overview of the character as a whole in the beginning, a back story prior to the game's setting and optionally followed by a description of what they are doing during the game's timeline, where most of the characters are "wandering the streets at night". That sounds like just the top part, but let me take a look.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 12, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
If they have 50% content then they probably are closer to 75% complete because they more or less finished the programming portion of it.

Also keep in mind that demo builds are commonly branched off of the actual project. So, the project itself could have advanced further than the demo build shows.

Probably so. Demo builds are, in some ways, similar to anything else relating to programming and "milestone" builds, which usually just represent the game at a particular point in time (and hopefully compiles correctly, with no serious programming errors).

I'd like to think that by now, if they're serious about that spring date, every character that stands to be in the game is implemented by now. And now they're largely focused on balancing and whatever story-mode stuff they want to include in the arcade release.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 13, 2012, 12:05:31 AM
Don't cry about it if it doesn't release in Spring.  They'll at least be dropping a load of more information and hopefully gameplay videos for us to drool over.

And of course Linne's famous.  Lolis run dis bitch. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sgsn on February 13, 2012, 01:19:49 AM
It looks like there's a translation of the character bios posted on GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/621199-/61869768) too.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 13, 2012, 02:18:21 AM
So anyone want to start placing bets that Seth is actually Kuon?



Speaking of Seth, his EXS is actually "Piercing Chains" and not "Chain Locks". My bad.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 13, 2012, 04:33:20 AM
*flips table* Well, thank goodness there are better translations than my sloppy ones. +HEAT for linking.

I'm guessing that that Hilda person will be the last character to be included and act as a boss character, seeing that all the slots in the character select screen are filled with one more slot in the main site.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on February 13, 2012, 06:54:47 AM
Don't cry about it if it doesn't release in Spring.  They'll at least be dropping a load of more information and hopefully gameplay videos for us to drool over.

Oh, I won't cry about it. It's just that I'm hoping that the sooner the game is released in arcades, the sooner the clock on that 6-9 month window of time for the arcade run will start and I can start having nice visions of this game being in my PS3 someday.  :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Crescent Saber on February 13, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
I just can't wait to see footage. The wait is killing me lol.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 14, 2012, 02:01:53 AM
Happy Valentine's Day. (http://inbirth.info/individual0002.html)

Or if you don't like the holiday, use this one (http://inbirth.info/img/topics/12021402.png) instead.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 14, 2012, 02:31:18 AM
Waldstein's trolling is hilarious.

I wonder if he's actually like that in the game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on February 14, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
We named him that for this one joke. :bricks:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 14, 2012, 04:29:27 PM
I just can't wait to see footage. The wait is killing me lol.
I know, I feel you on that one but you are still going to have to wait.
Good things come to those that wait....
Yep. It's one of the reasons I'm concerned about the Persona fighter. 3 months or thereabouts for an arcade run may get the game in the hands of consumers sooner, but the other shoe has to drop somewhere...
Please tell me that is not the release window that P4U is looking at...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 14, 2012, 04:34:06 PM
Yep. It's one of the reasons I'm concerned about the Persona fighter. 3 months or thereabouts for an arcade run may get the game in the hands of consumers sooner, but the other shoe has to drop somewhere...
Please tell me that is not the release window that P4U is looking at...

He's not kidding. The projected release dates for P4U are March 2012 for arcades and "Summer 2012" for console. Only about a 3 months difference in between.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 14, 2012, 04:43:45 PM
He's not kidding. The projected release dates for P4U are March 2012 for arcades and "Summer 2012" for console. Only about a 3 months difference in between.
That has the potential of being somewhat more reasonable since at maximum you could be looking at a 5-month wait. Still if they think that 3-months will be reasonable... that will be crazy to try to pull off without something game-braking cropping up.
Good luck to Atlus and ASW, they will need it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: HRGS|忍 on February 16, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/uni.htm

Some game mechanics got spilt on their main site. You'd get to know what the GRD is all about. Apparently there are instant kills and command dashes (6D).
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: c001357 on February 16, 2012, 08:42:54 AM
hi
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    lets do this shit
    UNIB SYSTEM
    EXS: your meter. supers are 100%.
    GRD: enhances attack/defense as it increases
    shield(back+d): different from MB's as it seems to push opponent back
    assault(fwd+d): think command dash. can be attacked from. uses meter.
    concentration(neutral d): charges exs.
    chain shift(d twice): your roman cancel. also converts EXS and GRD
    veil off(a+b+c): a sort-of heat. lasts 5 seconds, increases power, blows opponent off. may also work as a burst. makes it possible to use..
    infinite worth(?) can also be used with 200% EXS. your desperation super or w/e.
     
    throws and techs are 2 button. you can press buttons to reduce damage
     
    feel free to call me out on my fraudulent jp skills~
bye
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 16, 2012, 12:20:59 PM
System info! That looks... like a hybrid mix of Melty and BB/GG.

I am wondering how much of an influence GRD will have on offense/defense.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 16, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Oh hey, more pronunciations.

EXS - Exist [... so wait, what does that make FLS?]
GRD - Grind



But man, they really are going after that 'hateful blazblue', aren't they?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Frost on February 16, 2012, 03:28:17 PM
I'm soo looking forward to this game.

I'm just waiting for some footage now :3
Title: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sashi on February 16, 2012, 03:57:46 PM
FLS must mean Florist.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 16, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
Command dash and IK instantly made me think HNK.  Good/Bad/Already Dead?

Big thanks for system update translation.  I didn't realize it from the quick translate notes, but chain shift converts ALL meter into grd.  Unless that's the only way to raise your grind bar (no homo?) it seems like that's kind of an unnecessarily good bonus to an already strong mechanic like roman cancelling.

Also apparently left out was the button configuration:
A=Weak, B=Mid, C=Strong, D=EXS (chara specific aka Drive)

Man, they're pretty shameless in just how much they are emulating BB.

Can anyone tell me wtf Vorpal mode is?  Is it just max GRD or some shit?  Or maybe not.  I just noticed the picture where it shows GRD VORPAL only has 5/6 stock.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 16, 2012, 06:24:47 PM
From one of the pictures, it looks like you spend GRD on "GRD Vorpal" attacks. So by "enhances offense/defense" do they mean things like EX attacks and blowbacks?

Do they mention whether you can do Veil Off when under block/hitstun or just in neutral?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 16, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
Oh word.  You probably answered my question before I could ask it.  So instead of having ex attacks via meter, you instead burn GRD to do ex attacks?  If that's the case...I ain't mad at that.

It does specifically state that you CANNOT use Veil Off like a typical burst to get out of hitstun.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 16, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
Worth noting that that's just speculation. It looks like Hyde is doing an EX DP-esque move in the first gameplay picture, and it says GRD Vorpal with a GRD point missing.

I'd still like a translation to make certain I'm not giving people wrong impressions.

On Veil Off:
Ah, ok. Doesn't look like they have a typcal burst system then.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 16, 2012, 06:47:04 PM
Well, for GRD and Vorpal...they don't directly say what it is.  I can't be certain, but it seems like they just taunt the reader with something along the lines of "anyone keen enough should understand the meaning".  If it helps any, Vorpal's direct meaning is "Deadly", so assuming an EX attack actually makes sense in this instance.

But don't get it wrong, every level of the GRD meter does give you a definitive power boost in offense and defense, from what I can understand.  It's not only ex/blowback as you mused.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 16, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
Do note that the picture shows 6D to be a super jump, not just a regular command dash.

You need to have 200% EXS and in veil-off mode (call it V.O?) to activate your "infinite worth". Heck, even the text there pokes fun whether WAASU means "worth" or not. And they tell you not to tsukkomi them. But I'm guessing it's got something to do with the Inverse and Rebirth theme they got running in the story.

Throws are A+D. Still borrowed from Melty.

EDIT: Combos seem to do less damage here. In the first picture, Hyde does a 12 hit combo which nets just 2.8k, even with using that Vorpal thing. It's not to say that their total health is low either; the picture shows roughly less than a quarter of Linne's health gone, and 2.8k x 4 = about 11k like Melty. I hope it's just a demo picture for show and doesn't reflect actual gameplay.

Elements of the fight seem to go over the life bars, timer and damage indicator. We can see Hyde's sprite and his attack sprite go over the timer and Linne's health bar, and his Infinite Worth go over the combo damage numbers. Wonder if this will be an exploit for Waldstein...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 16, 2012, 07:12:54 PM
But I'm guessing it's got something to do with the IN-BIRTH and Rebirth theme they got running in the story.
Fixed that for you~

EDIT: Combos seem to do less damage here. In the first picture, Hyde does a 12 hit combo which nets just 2.8k, even with using that Vorpal thing. It's not to say that their total health is low either; the picture shows roughly less than a quarter of Linne's health gone, and 2.8k x 4 = about 11k like Melty. I hope it's just a demo picture for show and doesn't reflect actual gameplay.
I wouldn't assume that's a real combo.  Wait until it's playable and people start actually figuring shit out.  With shit like roman cancels and command dash/jump of sorts, I'm willing to put money on stupid absurd garbage combos showing up.  I really hope that combos don't last for ages and everyone dies after getting touched twice, but looking at the mechanics (and their obvious influences) I don't think that's a very realistic hope.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 16, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
There isn't any mechanic listed which seems to help you escape a combo like Burst, so gotta be prepared for long combos like UMvC3. The closest thing we have is V.O which is already stated to not help you in hitstun. However, I do remember in the beginning of the old trailer video, Hyde is comboing Linne on the floor and she manages to escape hitstun and start blocking, and even rolls on the floor forward to dodge. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFpH_6ReWo&#t=13s) Of course, it's been a long time since then, so there's no clue if that mechanic is still around. Gotta wait for gameplay.

But... what if that Chain Shot roman cancel is doable in hitstun?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 16, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Unless you get a large amount of GRD per EXS meter converted and the bonus to defense from having extra GRD was a large one, I'm not entirely certain how Chain Shift/Romen Cancel would help while you're in hitstun.

Edit: Just wondering, but it looks like the D button is getting translated as both being used for character specific Drive/EXS attacks and for special commands like the command dash/jump, Concentration, and Chain Shift. Is there a mistranslation somewhere or am I misunderstanding how the character specific EXS work?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 16, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
Edit: Just wondering, but it looks like the D button is getting translated as both being used for character specific Drive/EXS attacks and for special commands like the command dash/jump, Concentration, and Chain Shift. Is there a mistranslation somewhere or am I misunderstanding how the character specific EXS work?
I can't say, but I imagine that it isn't exactly like BB Drive.  If I had to wager a guess, I'd imagine it encompasses both universal special commands and you can enter specific inputs for EXS specials/supers or something of the like.  But really, better than my useless guesswork, it's not far off that the actual reveal will happen, and hopefully we will see footage to give us some real answers.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 17, 2012, 12:27:11 AM
http://t.co/J3xdFJXU gameplay video

I like the music but looks boring so far. I only see two jumps or one jump airdash BTW and I hope theres no bb style teching

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLZDzv7DT0&feature=youtube_gdata_player yt
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Exciel on February 17, 2012, 12:45:36 AM
I think the air dash might be that 6D assault mechanic since it seems you can do something similar on the ground too.

Anyway I love it. If I want to play a game with tons of jumping and air dashes and the whole 9 anime yards, I'd just play Melty. No reason to have another game just like it so I applaud FB's stance on making it different from what we're used to. I do hope there's Melty style hard knockdown though.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 17, 2012, 02:19:46 AM
Nice, gameplay.

I like how it looks. And sounds. The music sounds pretty classy.

The lack of voices makes me wonder if they haven't sorted that out yet though...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Red Leather Jacket on February 17, 2012, 05:19:58 AM
This looks so fantastic :O

Hype hype hype!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 17, 2012, 06:22:14 AM
I'm disappointed that the most mysterious characters aren't playable yet ie. UNREAL BLACK THING, Seth, Yuziriha, Vatista. And that there are no voices yet. Seems a bit rushed.

EDIT: Alright, time for my flurry of bordering meaningless observations:

-GRD bar starts empty in the beginning of the round and gradually rises, quite quickly too.
-This is really weird. Whiffing moves (supers only?) seem to give you EXS meter.
-Concentration charges up GRD only.
-You can activate Chain Shot (roman cancel) at any time you have GRD (though, not sure if only in combo or not), it'll start depleting from your current amount of GRD until zero and it gradually adds EXS during that duration.
-Some moves increase the enemy's GRD while some don't, and in general, your GRD depletes while eating a combo.
-Assault (6D superjump/command dash) costs 10 EXS. You can still do it without any meter at the start of a round.
-Shielding (4D) immediately gives you 4 GRD units. It's closer to BB's barrier and UMvC3's Advancing Guard rather than Melty's Shield. It doesn't seem to have recovery, but I think that if you get hit right after a failed Shield attempt (1:28), there's a penalty which includes halting your GRD meter from increasing and, oddly, decreasing as well, and also deducting 3 EXS. I hope that that's situation-specific, because 3 EXS doesn't sound very significant. GRD meter functions normally on the next successful Shield. Not sure if there are other conditions.
-I can't understand GRD Vorpal at all. Really, I can't. The most I can tell is that when you enter the mode (if it's even a mode), you start having an aura around you, and the GRD meter at the bottom flares for a bit. It might be negative too, seeing that the GRD meter seems to rise slower with Vorpal.
-OTG hits can relaunch, meaning that didn't take Melty's old OTG mechanics.
-Comboing into Infinite Worth (ultimate) seems easier than in Melty, considering that the ones in Melty each have pretty much specialised uses. Comboing into CS (chain shot) and then into IW seems like it's meant to be used that way. Still, it doesn't add that much damage. After a 14 hit combo which dealt 3.3k, Linne's IW adds about 500 more damage, while her earlier combo which started with an aerial attack did 15 hits and dealt 3.9k, but it ended with a shoryu instead of continued with an aerial combo, if that's in this game at all.Not entirely sure if its her IW.
-The combo damage indicator also highlights how much damage was deducted in red. Not sure if it's from button mashing or from proration, but most probably the former. But not only that! I must say this is a genius addition: Below the number of hits, there is a small bar which varies in length depending on the last hit. When this bar depletes, the enemy is free to tech. In simpler terms, it indicates the hitstun of the last move, showing you how big or small your window is to combo.
-2:59 groundtech. Similar to BB.
-Orie has about 12k health.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 17, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
Tech bar was in efz too!
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rokunaya on February 17, 2012, 01:18:37 PM
This game looks alot like what I wanted it to be so far
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Cristu on February 17, 2012, 01:36:53 PM
I was expecting this game to be shitty like persona or the other shitty games people are launching allday nonstop... I was wrong. I can now recognize this game's potential and now I respect even more French Bread. Those guys really know how to make a real fighting game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 17, 2012, 06:14:23 PM
Anyone else notice that the OTG relaunch by Linne put Orie into some sort of spinning knockback launch, rather than a vertical bounce as mbcc does?

I really, really like that the game has taken a different direction than what they're familiar with (melty).  It's a lot closer to what I was hoping for originally that I realistically expected.  Hype level +2.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 17, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
More matches (http://guardcancel.com/more-under-night-in-birth-footage/) courtesy of SoBa.

Looks like Waldstein can run, or at least has a c-dash. I'm scared now.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on February 17, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
What the hell? Gordeau's scythe's hitbox takes up like 4/5ths of the screen.   :slowpoke:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 17, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
They took visual aspects from Melty and BB and mashed them together.

I wonder if supers are still C buttons like Melty instead of double buttons or double inputs like other games.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 17, 2012, 06:51:31 PM
Kinda looks like having the ground crack when the opponent slams into it symbolizes a hard knockdown. It would serve as a nice visual indicator if that is the case.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 17, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
I like how Waldstein is essentially a grappler character, but his damage output is like the other characters and still has to rely on combos. That's French Bread balancing for ya.

More observations:

-Carmine enters the round with white hair and bleached skin, then the red colour seeps in and he looks like how we know him. Wonder how this fits into the story.
-Even with his huge-ass figure, Waldstein still can Assault. lol
-Carmine's throw drains health. As expected from a blood user.
-It seems possible to bypass Shield's pushback, continuing pressure eventhough the first attack got Shielded. Or is this a bug? Could be from multi-hit moves? Linne vs Gordeau 0:57 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ouiZG4AgA&feature=player_embedded&#t=56s)
-You can hold Shield for quite a long time, but hold it for too long (like more than a second?) and it starts depleting EXS.
-Waldstein has about 15k health. Damn.
-Announcements show normal Counters and High Counters.
-Orie's throw does 2.1k, Gordeau's does 1.2k. What a difference.
-Veil Off (VO) serves as a kind of infinite meter mode. It converts whatever EXS you have into a timer, more EXS=longer time. During the duration, supers take a chunk out of the timer, but it's only a little.
-Did Linne just do a charge move?? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ouiZG4AgA&feature=player_embedded&#t=3m46s)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 17, 2012, 09:37:50 PM
Loving it.

Waldstein's meterless SPD did as much damage as his super, lol.  Even with his super grab being a big question mark, I can only imagine it getting appropriately ridiculous.  It looks like frenchbread has finally made a real grappler.  I can think of at least 3 more people who will at least have some level of hype for this game now.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 17, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
Did French Bread finally make a character with 360 moves? We will have to see!

Btw, what's SPD?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on February 17, 2012, 11:33:25 PM
Carmine seems awesome so far. Any guesses on his movelist? 236X would probably be the spinning sword toss thing he has. It might also be 214X, but that's less likely since very few companies use 214X for any type of projectile.

SPD == Super pile-driver.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 17, 2012, 11:41:50 PM
Carmine seems awesome so far. Any guesses on his movelist? 236X would probably be the spinning sword toss thing he has. It might also be 214X, but that's less likely since very few companies use 214X for any type of projectile.

SPD == Super pile-driver.

French Bread made Ciel throw knives with 214. The movelist could be anything.

Thanks for the explanation too.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Langley on February 17, 2012, 11:49:53 PM
I noticed that in the Linne vs. Gordeu match, when Gordeu uses Veil Off, his GRD gauge starts to encroach on Linne's side at 3:40. I may just be seeing things, though.

Regardless, I'm really liking the way the game looks at the moment.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 18, 2012, 12:08:03 AM
Actually, it seems to happen earlier at 1:40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v0ouiZG4AgA&#t=1m40s) and it happens again at 2:11. Seems like your GRD gauge is not limited by the centre marker at all. Not only that, at 2:59 Gordeau's GRD gauge goes through some sort of penalty and gets frozen from increasing and decreasing. After a successful held Shield, it still doesn't return to normal, unlike my previous observations. Only after about 10 seconds does it function normally.

EDIT: It's chipping on my patience to know what GRD Vorpal actually is, so anyone with good moonspeak skills, please lend a hand. Taken from the info site:

Code: [Select]
GRD(グラインドゲージ)
 あまり似たのは見ないバランスゲージ。作中設定ではGrind(ぐらいんど…研ぎ澄ます、みたいな意味)から、
 場における両者の気の満ち方、みたいなニュアンスで捉えて欲しい。
 このGRDを元に、一定間隔ごとに「どちらが優勢かの判断」が下され、
 優勢な方は「Vopal(う゛ぉーぱる …鋭いみたいな意味だと思いねぇ)」という状態になり
 攻撃力・防御力等でメリットが発生する。流れに乗って攻めろ。

The most I can decipher from that (from Google Translate) is that it occurs at set intervals, about every 14-15 seconds, and 7 times in a round (from videos). Each time it happens, it gives an attack and defense boost to one of the players, depending on how advantageous or disadvantageous they are at the moment. As far as I can tell, the first two times are granted to the advantageous player, the rest of the times are for the disadvantageous player. Please clarify?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 18, 2012, 01:25:29 PM
SoBa updated with more footage (http://guardcancel.com/more-under-night-in-birth-footage/). Orie vs Carmine x 2.

Looks like Carmine actually hurts himself whenever he uses a special. On the other hand, it looks like he can control an amazing amount of space with blood wheels/waves/pits.

Edit: The specials that drain his health also leave behind pools of blood that he can use for more specials that don't cost health. Seems like he can skip the middle-man and lay down pools to go straight into the ground specials.

He seems to be limited to 2 pools at once.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 18, 2012, 06:59:37 PM
More footage~!
Quote
Linne VS gord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iInBjE3Y6QY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iInBjE3Y6QY)

Orie VS Hyde
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fo9xqM8HOs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fo9xqM8HOs)

gord vs waldstein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG1uI8fcDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG1uI8fcDw)

Orie VS linne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdx2lBk44dM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdx2lBk44dM)

orie vs gord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOuE_xV_74 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOuE_xV_74)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 18, 2012, 07:11:28 PM
I wouldn't really call it x2 'cos they're just separate rounds from the same match.

Carmine's playstyle seems more appealing now. He has really impressive zoning, coupled with the mechanic where you gain meter for every whiffed special (about 5 EXS); his meter gain is crazy! But the amount of damage he takes for using his specials is quite high. He can gain some of it back with his vampiric throw; I wonder if he has other vampiric moves.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 18, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
Looks like Hyde has Hadouken,  Tohno/Nanya's DP, F-VAkiha's 236X, and what I'm tempted to call Ragna's DeadSpike.

Seeing as how he can combo into it, I'm guessing Gordeau has a c-grab.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 18, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Seeing as how he can combo into it, I'm guessing Gordeau has a c-grab.

I was about to say the same thing. He even has an EX version of it, so it's confirmed. But it seems to be a c-grab that doesn't give much; mediocre damage and relatively normal oki. Maybe Gordeau's the real grappler character. He has lots of moves with throw properties and they reach almost the entire screen! Also, anyone else notice that he always keeps one hand in his pocket and only takes it out for his c-grab?

Teching gives a boost of GRD, about half a unit or more.

It seems like even A normals OTG relaunch. I think instead of Melty's OTG system where selective moves relaunch, all moves relaunch now, ala BB.

Oddly enough, I haven't seen any indication of invalid hits. All combos in these videos can't be valid, can they? Found it. When the tech timer turns red, it's invalid.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 19, 2012, 12:57:44 AM
Gordeau's command grab depletes like 2 GRD from the enemy.  In essence, it's a free hard knockdown that weakens the enemy, and you can apparently combo into it from long range thanks to that pull-in scythe special he has. (I guess that means you can grab aerial opponents with it?)

Gordeau is pretty stylin.  Of the playable characters, he looks most appealing to play right now.  Can't wait for the others to debut.  I want Vatista action.  Also Carmne would be so bullshit if he didn't lose life with his specials.  lol.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 01:32:51 AM
Holy crap how did I not notice the GRD meter! Thanks for the heads up. That sounds like quite a deadly move if GRD proves to be significant in increasing attack and defense.

EDIT: After checking the videos properly, it only removes 1 GRD. Also, I notice that at the start of some rounds, one player gains GRD faster than the other, but only sometimes. GRD seems like a really fragile and dynamic game mechanic...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 19, 2012, 01:53:39 AM
It's looking like there isn't any special mechanic for encroaching on the opponent's half of the GRD bar. It's just that if a unit is empty, then either side is free to take it.

Gordeau's c-grab also seems to give him the GRD that it drains from the opponent.

Wald's damage seems low even on the supers, at least compared to the grapplers of other games. His Veil Off > Grab Super did 4.4k damage, which looked really high until I saw that Orie combo'd into her 200 meter super to add 5k.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 02:03:25 AM
I agree, Waldstein's damage output isn't very grappler-like, meaning that he still has to rely on combos for proper damage output like the rest of the cast. That's something which French Bread did that I like; no bullshit half-health reversals.

Also, Veil-Off seems to remove ALL GRD of the opponent if they get hit by it. Waldstein did it to Gordeau.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 19, 2012, 03:22:34 AM
Wald's grabs also hit from quarter screen.  Would you really want a character with a super grab that hits instantly, from that kind of range, that does half health or more damage?  Besides, if you look at everyone's veil off, only Orie has that ridiculously inflated damage.  Everyone else seems around 4k mark.

Sahgren, are you sure about Gordeau's command grab giving him the drained GRD?  I was paying attention for that specifically, and I didn't see it.  The GRD loss happens when shoves his hand in, but he didn't get any GRD at that point, or at any time later in the move. 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 03:38:38 AM
That sounds like a long-range Kouma lol. But so far Waldstein's c-grabs are around 2k, even his super grab, and they all seem counterable. It's just his Infinite Worth that reaches 4k. For an ultimate move, personally I think he deserves that instant damage if not more.

I too saw Gordeau's c-grab drain that GRD into his own.

I'm thinking that the more GRDs you have, the longer it takes for it to naturally fill up.

It's looking like there isn't any special mechanic for encroaching on the opponent's half of the GRD bar. It's just that if a unit is empty, then either side is free to take it.

But it's not entirely free. It seems that GRD units encroaching on the other side slowly drain away.

As far as I can tell, when you're in GRD Vorpal, your GRD fills up slower. Even when in Concentration, it doesn't seem to fill up any faster.

EDIT: Here's some of the Engrish listed on the character profile on the loading screens:

HYDE - Void Red
His ability, spitting out from the dusky-red aura ****
Grab defensive strength against ****
Officially there is no darkness, only the realization of just this hidden ****

ORIE - Tanatos
Her ability to image of her "innocence embodied in" The ability to summon a magical doll barrel.
Guardian knowing the impurities are innocent, her wish not allow any interference to the desired.

GORDEAU - Bander Snatch
His ability, to realize the hands of his own greed.
Claw-like beast that stretched miss the game and longer
Together with scythe weapon in his "Harvester" has been dubbed with a solid barrel.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Meseki on February 19, 2012, 09:07:25 AM
Did anyone realize that the timer is faster than real-time?  It takes about 75-76 seconds for the 99.99 'second' timer to run out from what I've seen, so that's about 33% faster than real-time.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 19, 2012, 10:07:03 AM
Lmfao those descriptions are gold
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 19, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
Sahgren, are you sure about Gordeau's command grab giving him the drained GRD?  I was paying attention for that specifically, and I didn't see it.  The GRD loss happens when shoves his hand in, but he didn't get any GRD at that point, or at any time later in the move.

Yeah, it's when he yanks his hand out. It's best seen in the Gordeau vs Waldstein video; the only problem is that the guy is spending a lot of time under the penalty that keeps him from gaining GRD, so it isn't happening at those portions.

Happens twice in a row here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG1uI8fcDw&feature=player_detailpage#t=287s), at the end of round 3.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: deice on February 19, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
EDIT: It's chipping on my patience to know what GRD Vorpal actually is, so anyone with good moonspeak skills, please lend a hand. Taken from the info site:

Code: [Select]
GRD(グラインドゲージ)
 あまり似たのは見ないバランスゲージ。作中設定ではGrind(ぐらいんど…研ぎ澄ます、みたいな意味)から、
 場における両者の気の満ち方、みたいなニュアンスで捉えて欲しい。
 このGRDを元に、一定間隔ごとに「どちらが優勢かの判断」が下され、
 優勢な方は「Vopal(う゛ぉーぱる …鋭いみたいな意味だと思いねぇ)」という状態になり
 攻撃力・防御力等でメリットが発生する。流れに乗って攻めろ。

The most I can decipher from that (from Google Translate) is that it occurs at set intervals, about every 14-15 seconds, and 7 times in a round (from videos). Each time it happens, it gives an attack and defense boost to one of the players, depending on how advantageous or disadvantageous they are at the moment. As far as I can tell, the first two times are granted to the advantageous player, the rest of the times are for the disadvantageous player. Please clarify?
The japanese doesn't really explain much. Says that there's this GRD "Grind Gauge". At set intervals its judged who is winning on GRD gauge, and the leader gets "Vorpal" status effect, which increases "attack / defense / etc". "Rise on the momentum and attack".
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
EDIT: Sorry, didn't read your post properly. So it's entirely decided on GRD? No wonder the player with noticably lower health gets Vorpal sometimes.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 19, 2012, 09:55:41 PM
Lmfao those descriptions are gold
Seriously.  Frenchbread is continuously one-upping themselves.  Screw localization, they should just translate their whole game's dialogue into English first-hand.

Sahgren, are you sure about Gordeau's command grab giving him the drained GRD?  I was paying attention for that specifically, and I didn't see it.  The GRD loss happens when shoves his hand in, but he didn't get any GRD at that point, or at any time later in the move.

Yeah, it's when he yanks his hand out. It's best seen in the Gordeau vs Waldstein video; the only problem is that the guy is spending a lot of time under the penalty that keeps him from gaining GRD, so it isn't happening at those portions.

Happens twice in a row here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG1uI8fcDw&feature=player_detailpage#t=287s), at the end of round 3.
Ah, I see.  Guess the couple I was actually paying attention to he was grd frozen.  Good shit.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
I didn't think of this the moment it was pointed out to me, but if GRD Vorpal is the one that grants the attack/defense boost, then it isn't every GRD unit that gives a boost. That makes more sense.

Which makes Gordeau all the more dangerous now. So far, in these matches, he almost always manages to have his GRD cross the middle line. Of course, they weren't proper matches per se, but still, it could be a valid strategy to keep stealing GRD to ensure you always have Vorpal.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 19, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Huh, if it really is GRD Vorpal giving the offense/defense boost and not just a static bonus from GRD in general, then GRD seems less crazy. It's more worrying about having more than the opponent rather than worrying about every point.

Gordeau and his GRD stealing c-grab is just that more terrifying if that's true. It seems like it'd be really hard to take momentum from him if gets Vorpal.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 19, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
Huh, if it really is GRD Vorpal giving the offense/defense boost and not just a static bonus from GRD in general, then GRD seems less crazy. It's more worrying about having more than the opponent rather than worrying about every point.

Gordeau and his GRD stealing c-grab is just that more terrifying if that's true. It seems like it'd be really hard to take momentum from him if gets Vorpal.

Funny that this is a paraphrase of what I just said lol. Great minds think alike.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 19, 2012, 11:44:11 PM
Huh, if it really is GRD Vorpal giving the offense/defense boost and not just a static bonus from GRD in general, then GRD seems less crazy. It's more worrying about having more than the opponent rather than worrying about every point.

Gordeau and his GRD stealing c-grab is just that more terrifying if that's true. It seems like it'd be really hard to take momentum from him if gets Vorpal.

Funny that this is a paraphrase of what I just said lol. Great minds think alike.

Yeah, I really should've read what you said more closely. Sorry about that.

I can't really tell how much Vorpal has an effect right now, but it doesn't seem like very much. Orie having Vorpal rather than her opponent meant that the same combo do 2k instead of 1.9k. Oops, looks like it's more in the order of a 400 damage drop, from 2.4k to 2k, in between Orie having Vorpal and Linne having Vorpal. That's a bit more than I originally thought.

(What I'm assuming to be) A attacks also seem to prorate more strongly than in MB. One 2As lead into 2.4k per combo with Orie, two 2As lead into 2k, whereas 3+ dropped her damage to ~1.5k.


Three more videos. Ok, technically 1 match video and 2 videos of someone recording the standard demo play that occurs when noone is using the machine. We can still get info off of them.

Orie vs Waldstein and Orie vs Hyde (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p8NbwD2DKI&list=UUzGM0FQ3MTpJhRYqZ1_S8Zw&index=5&feature=plcp)
Nobody Touching The Machine 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzLiZSVPsE&list=UUzGM0FQ3MTpJhRYqZ1_S8Zw&index=4&feature=plcp)
Nobody Touching The Machine 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgnBQdV5j7U&list=UUzGM0FQ3MTpJhRYqZ1_S8Zw&index=3&feature=plcp)

I may have to rethink my assumption that 2As prorate more strongly than in MB. It may just be that GRD does just give a static bonus to offense/defense (like it was originally translated) and that's messing with the damage rather than the 2As.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 20, 2012, 05:05:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvUIXv7qTUY&feature=related

Has this been linked? Orie vs Hyde x2 games.

EDIT: A revelation!!

From seconds 99 to 85, the damage counters do not show plus damage in blue nor minus damage in red. These are only shown after that time. And GRD Vorpal is granted for the first time at around 85 seconds.

Not only that, here is a sample of the combo indicator when Waldstein does his SPD on Orie in one of the matches while he is in GRD Vorpal:

1st hit: 840 damage (white) ~ 700 (white) + 140 (blue)

2nd hit: 2629 damage (white) ~ 2191 (white) + 438 (blue)

It seems that we've been mistaken all along. The damage counter doesn't show the damage from the previous attack + damage from the current attack to show the total damage dealt so far because obviously, if that were the case, the damage counter would show 2629 damage (white) ~ 840 (white) + 1789 (blue) instead. Therefore, I believe that the plus damage shown in blue is the damage bonus from GRD Vorpal! Not too sure about the red minus damage though. I still believe it's from damage reduction by mashing, because it only happens occasionally.

With that said, yes, GRD Vorpal does add a significant amount of damage. About 20%. That's not something to scoff at.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: arvy on February 20, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
The more I see about this game. The more I love it. I can't wait for those 2 new ones footage.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 21, 2012, 11:12:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvUIXv7qTUY&feature=related

So what is High Countering?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 21, 2012, 11:48:19 PM
I'm guessing it's the same as Melty. Normal counter for countering normals, High Counter for countering specials.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 22, 2012, 02:08:58 AM
The next loktest will reportedly be held on February 25th and 26th. (http://inbirth.info/topic0023.html)

I'll admit, that's sooner than I was expecting. Unfortunately, it doesn't say if it'll be a different build from what was shown at AOU.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 22, 2012, 02:16:42 AM
Doesn't matter. There'll be more vids. Unless they ban recording. Then that would suck.

I doubt it'll be a different build. The gap between AOU and this is too small.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 22, 2012, 02:30:20 PM
Impressions of the AOU build. (http://gadget.itmedia.co.jp/gg/articles/1202/20/news025.html) I don't think there's anything new here, but just in case.

What I got (via Google Translate) from it:
-Veil Off requires that you have at least 100 EXS to start.
-Throws are A+B instead of A+D. No shield/tech OS like in MB.
-Seems like you need a CH to OTG someone... or something. They say that Orie and Gordeau in particular want to fish for CHs. Uncertain about this; I'd appreciate it if someone else could translate.
-Feedback is largely positive.
-Something about "Fukitobi Return" and "Passive Slam". I'm not quite certain what those are.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 22, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
I think "Fukitobi Return" is teching/recovering because it says something about moving the lever (stick) and pressing a button and "Passive Slam" is damage reduction by mashing because it mentions pressing (and holding??) buttons on the "slammed moment" by Google translate.

Damnit, throws are gonna confuse me since A+B is dash in Melty.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 24, 2012, 03:31:22 AM
Yuzuriha and Seth Twitter avas this time. (http://inbirth.info/topic0024.html) I'm taking it that it's a bad thing that I consider this as a returning to normal after the actual match footage.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 25, 2012, 03:30:11 PM
They're from last week, but I don't recall seeing them posted anywhere:
Orie vs Hyde (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhOr-R0gHs&list=UU7bMo_tOP47uUmHinKXsteg&index=3&feature=plcp)
Linne vs Waldstein (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R810C47YUaM&list=UU7bMo_tOP47uUmHinKXsteg&index=2&feature=plcp)
Hyde vs Linne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqU0-Wzhfsw&list=UU7bMo_tOP47uUmHinKXsteg&index=1&feature=plcp)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 25, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
It seems that only Linne can double jump. Other characters compensate by jumping higher and staying in the air longer than her. Even Waldstein O.O This is false.

Hyde can detonate his hadoukens. If it hits the opponent first, detonating it gives more hits.

And apparently Waldstein's running c-grab can OTG AND grab airborne opponents. Holy. Crap. At least they have to be quite low to the ground...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 25, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
It also automatically corners from anywhere on the screen. On the plus side, it looks pretty terrible on whiff; he continues until he hits the edge of the screen regardless.

He also has Gadget Finger Headbutt oki. Considering that this game seems to have hard knockdowns, I wonder if it gives him even better frame advantage then.

Doesn't seem like you can jump cancel air attacks. They really don't want air combos in this game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 25, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Headbutt oki? You mean the move where he picks up the opponent from the floor? That move didn't seem to give so many +frames. Also, the game has another character state other than knockdown. Some moves that slam the opponent down cause them to "trip" and make them land on their butts. Then, they stand up automatically a little after. It's more like an extended hitstun to me, personally. Waldstein's heabutt grab caused that "tripping" state too and Linne got up at the same time when Waldstein recovered from it. So I'm thinking that maybe the headbutt is cancellable into other normals or specials, like a command throw.

I don't think this game has many hard knockdowns. There have been cases where players teched out of moves that seemed to cause hard knockdown (Orie's throw for example. It's been teched out before) so I think the players just mistimed their techs. I'm still not sure if the ground-shattering animation really is an indication of a hard knockdown. Maybe for a hard groundbounce, because characters can tech when they're on the floor after the ground-shattering groundbounce.

Seeing that other characters can't double jump in the first place, they can't jump cancel their air attacks I guess. Not too sure about Linne though, but I don't think she can either. In fact, when she jump-cancel's a ground attack, she jumps higher than her jump in neutral, about as high as the rest of the cast, which is roughly as high as the health bar. This is false too.

Also, not sure if it's been properly said, but Veil-Off can be done in the air and your GRD increases more quickly.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 26, 2012, 01:52:43 AM
It seems that only Linne can double jump. Other characters compensate by jumping higher and staying in the air longer than her. Even Waldstein O.O
Where does Linne double jump?  I've seen Orie wall jump, but don't remember seeing any double jumps besides the universal meter dash/jump.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 26, 2012, 04:08:50 AM
Orie can wall jump? I certainly missed that one...

Linne's done it a few times in various videos. Like for example here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqU0-Wzhfsw&list=UU7bMo_tOP47uUmHinKXsteg&index=1&feature=plcp

At 0:23, at 1:54  (there's more dust than normal when she jumps, it could be an instant double jump),

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R810C47YUaM&list=UU7bMo_tOP47uUmHinKXsteg&index=2&feature=plcp

at 0:19, 0:43 and at 2:25 (she does it right after a tech, I'm sure of it). And I'm sure it's not the angled air-dash Assault because those have sound effects, while these jumps are silent. Now that I think about it, there's a possibility the rest of the cast is capable of it and I just didn't see them do it. Too lazy to load and sift through all the videos though.

And I'm wrong about her jump being shorter than the rest of the cast. It was the camera zooming in and out that tricked my eyes.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 26, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
Headbutt oki? You mean the move where he picks up the opponent from the floor? That move didn't seem to give so many +frames. Also, the game has another character state other than knockdown. Some moves that slam the opponent down cause them to "trip" and make them land on their butts. Then, they stand up automatically a little after. It's more like an extended hitstun to me, personally. Waldstein's heabutt grab caused that "tripping" state too and Linne got up at the same time when Waldstein recovered from it. So I'm thinking that maybe the headbutt is cancellable into other normals or specials, like a command throw.
Sahgren had it spot on with the Tager Gadget Finger reference.  It's a move that pulls into a standing position with neutral frame advantage.  It's useful for grapplers because it forces them into a mixup situation.  If your opponent tries to mash, your SPD throw will probably beat it for free; if they try to jump, you have an anti-air grab you can catch them with; if they try to backdash, you can punish with something longer range.  For Wald, I think he can probably even catch backdashers with his SPD, just because of the absurd range of it.  (Btw, anyone notice that Wald can use his SPD in the air?)

And thanks for the video reference for Linne's double jump.  Looking back she does it pretty frequently, I guess I just never really took notice of it. 

So, I noticed something important to note about roman cancels.  Link for reference. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqU0-Wzhfsw#t=0m44s)  So earlier I had misinterpreted that when you roman cancel, your meter used goes into your GRD.  Turns out I had it backwards.  You burn one GRD node to activate the roman cancel, then all of your remaining GRD drains into your meter.  Judging from what Linne gains in meter (minus the meter gains from her projectile), it seems that each GRD node drained this way will give approx 15 meter.  Important mechanic to abuse for meter heavy characters.

This closer examination of meter gain also made me notice that you gain meter from whiffing anything, including normals.  I'm not really happy about that.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on February 26, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
i hope wald isn't another shitty char like tager with that RPS
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 26, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Thanks for the explanation on the BB reference. I don't play that game enough...

Could it be possible that Waldstein's SPD only works when the opponent is an exact distance away? About right where his hands clap? I don't think I've seen him execute it point-blank. It would be good news if it's true, though unlikely...

So, I noticed something important to note about roman cancels.  Link for reference. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqU0-Wzhfsw#t=0m44s)  So earlier I had misinterpreted that when you roman cancel, your meter used goes into your GRD.  Turns out I had it backwards.  You burn one GRD node to activate the roman cancel, then all of your remaining GRD drains into your meter.  Judging from what Linne gains in meter (minus the meter gains from her projectile), it seems that each GRD node drained this way will give approx 15 meter.  Important mechanic to abuse for meter heavy characters.
At least GRD gain is quite easy; a successful Shield instantly gives you 3 units and teching gives you about half a unit or less. I'm not too sure about it, but I think Veil-Off boosts your GRD regen rate (it happens in that link as well), so it could be possible to do an endless cycle of gaining meter through Chain Shot (roman), then using that meter for VO to get that GRD back, adding to the fact that VO gives you almost infinite meter for its duration.

This closer examination of meter gain also made me notice that you gain meter from whiffing anything, including normals.  I'm not really happy about that.
I noticed this a long time ago and put it in my long list of observations. Guess it was tl;dr ;_;

I'm not too sure about normals, but specials give about 5 meter each whiff. Though, I have seen sudden increments of 2 meter when they whiff moves, so that could be from normals.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on February 26, 2012, 10:49:30 PM
i hope wald isn't another shitty char like tager with that RPS

Wald is actually looking really good, imo.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 27, 2012, 02:36:35 AM
Someone's impressions of the AOU build. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/maidskii/20120218/1329591324) Not a lot we don't know already, but they seem to say that defense seems strong in the game thanks to how powerful Shielding is. On the other hand, they also mention that they didn't have enough time to fully explore whether offense in general is strong enough to balance that or not.

Me, I like offense oriented games, so I wouldn't mind if they toned down Shielding if it really is strong like the guy says.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 27, 2012, 04:37:00 AM
In my opinion, Shielding is also an offensive strategy since it gives GRD. To really utilize it, you keep Shielding to collect GRD and get that 20% damage bonus GRD Vorpal gives. So you have to change from defense to offense after Shielding. But then, maybe giving 3 GRD units in an instant per Shield is too much because I've seen matches where two successful Shields already bring your GRD gauge to encroach in the opponent's.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on February 27, 2012, 11:44:09 PM
This closer examination of meter gain also made me notice that you gain meter from whiffing anything, including normals.  I'm not really happy about that.
I noticed this a long time ago and put it in my long list of observations. Guess it was tl;dr ;_;

I'm not too sure about normals, but specials give about 5 meter each whiff. Though, I have seen sudden increments of 2 meter when they whiff moves, so that could be from normals.
I wasn't trying to belittle your discovery, just adding to it.  Last I remembered, you mentioned that whiffed specials gain meter.  If it were just specials that gave meter in this way, it would have been okay.  That's pretty common and not very easily abusable.  Whiffing normals for meter leads to some dumb behaviors popping up for milking meter gain at every opportunity.  It's not even like meter gain in this game is slow either, with so many ways to build it up.


Someone's impressions of the AOU build. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/maidskii/20120218/1329591324) Not a lot we don't know already, but they seem to say that defense seems strong in the game thanks to how powerful Shielding is. On the other hand, they also mention that they didn't have enough time to fully explore whether offense in general is strong enough to balance that or not.

Me, I like offense oriented games, so I wouldn't mind if they toned down Shielding if it really is strong like the guy says.
There's a lot of offensive oriented mechanics available to the players, but yeah, if defense is that strong it leads to boring and stagnant gameplay.  Here's hoping that they tone down shields a little, even just lower/remove the GRD gain would make it more risk vs less reward.  It's punishable, right?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on February 28, 2012, 12:31:46 AM
There's a lot of offensive oriented mechanics available to the players, but yeah, if defense is that strong it leads to boring and stagnant gameplay.  Here's hoping that they tone down shields a little, even just lower/remove the GRD gain would make it more risk vs less reward.  It's punishable, right?

If it is, they aren't doing it. It does however look like unsuccessful shield attempts will freeze your GRD gauge and holding it costs meter (not a lot, but some). I guess we really will have to wait and see how everything pans out as people figure out the game more.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on February 28, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
Punishing Shields is basically the same as guard breaking. If you try to low Shield a high attack, that's where you get punished. I don't think Shielding has any recovery, so it's like Barrier in BB; a stronger type of blocking rather than a parry.

I didn't notice that it removed meter when you get GRD frozen. What I'm guessing is that the penalty to Shielding is that if you fail, you get GRD frozen and that causes you to be ineligible for GRD Vorpal, regardless of how much GRD you have. If this isn't the case, then FB better rebalance Shielding; at least reduce the GRD bonus.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on February 29, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Me, I like offensive oriented games, so I wouldn't mind if they toned down Shielding if it really is strong like the guy says.

Given the pace of UNIB currently, I don't mind a strong defence with a fast pace game behind it. It's something that has bugged me with BB for a while is that the defensive options seemed slim or weak compared to GG. Having it the other way around would be a nice changed... but we will see, since now comes the fine tuning of the game before release.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 01, 2012, 11:54:07 PM
Now there's an offical video page (http://inbirth.info/movie.html) along with Seth (http://inbirth.info/chr_set.html) and Yuzuriha (http://inbirth.info/chr_yuz.html) screenshots. The loketest last week reportedly went well (http://inbirth.info/topic0025.html), but we don't have any videos to go along with it.  :gonk:

Heh, looks like when Waldstein gets the momentum, he keeps the momentum. There're resets into the anti-air c-grab and abusing the timestop from Chain Shift to use it as a straight AA in neutral.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 02, 2012, 03:36:03 AM
Looks like there's a lot of tech punishing in this game.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 02, 2012, 06:53:26 AM
Hohoho... Well then, time to put my observation cap on again.

Seth and Yuzuriha screenshots seem... disappointing. We already know that they use blades, but the screenshots just show them doing slashy slashy things, which we already know they can do. Was kind of hoping for something unexpected. Also, the newest screenshots show the tech-timer, while the other characters' screenshots don't. That's inconsistency on French Bread's part.

And what is this?? Vatista has TWINTAILS??? (see Yuzuriha's last screenshot)

Now to the videos:

Waldstein vs Carmine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=986QLcjEv3I&feature=g-u&context=G20b192cFUAAAAAAABAA

0:17 - Seems like you can shield while under blockstun, like a bunker. Hope that that's really easily punishable. If it's easy to do without penalty, I'll never be blocking and Shield all day long.
0:43 - Gadget Finger hits air. Heck, ALL OF WALDSTEIN'S GRABS HIT AIR.
1:13 - I see an Auto Recover. Wonder what it is? Carmine even techs again when he touches the floor after the Auto Recover.
1:47 - Seeing how Waldstein moved left and right before doing his bodyslam crusher super throw, I have reason to believe that the input for that is a 360.
Overall video -  Holy shit, Waldstein has really crazy ways of comboing. Almost all his grabs can be followed-up, as if they were just normal moves. But thank the heavens, his damage output really is low, barely breaching 2.8k per combo. Seems like French Bread wanted to make a grappler who had lots of options and opportunities to fish hits, but balanced it out by giving him a low damage output.

Linne vs Waldstein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnEAHqZeJA&feature=related

0:20 - Linne can dash cancel her air slash projectile move. Not sure if she can dash cancel other moves. Doesn't seem to cost anything, not even meter.
0:27 - Here we go! Linne actually can double jump cancel her air moves, ala Melty.
0:28 - Waldstein Auto Recovers. And he does it again.
0:38 - Here, we have a really cool rejump reland combo. Probably is character specific, given Waldstein's massive size. But seeing that the rest of the cast are quite large too, maybe this could be a BnB...
0:52 - Linne throws Waldstein just after his jump. It removes 2 GRD units from Waldstein.
0:59 - Not sure if she dash cancels her super, or she recovers quickly to dash forward. And maybe getting your GRD to encroach into the opponent's side isn't so free after all because Linne fiercely combo'd Waldstein, but her GRD remained at 6 units.
1:27 - Again, a rejump reland combo. Could be a BnB.
1:58~ - Waldstein's GRD meter starts increasing dramatically and encroaches into Linne's side while blocking for no apparent reason.
2:01 - Dash cancelling mid-blockstring into throw. Is throw protection in blockstun not in this game?
2:10 - That was definitely a charged stab. Overhead?

Hyde vs Linne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWefBpAd16I&feature=related

Didn't hear this music before.
0:18 - Hyde's knee knocked Linne over and she landed on her butt. Follow-ups put her in a crouching state. Also, I'm wondering if it's the bonus from being the main character, because his simple combo got 3.4k after reduction, while Waldstein's seemingly bone-crushing grapples can't even break 3k.
0:28 - Again, 3.2k after an anti-air air counterhit. This time with Vorpal, so he's getting a 20% damage bonus.
1:01 - 4.6k with Vorpal and an uppercut super.
1:14~1:20 - Hyde does a Chain Shift in neutral for no apparent reason. Then, he gets hit. This causes the Chain Shift to end, immediately stopping his meter from increasing and his GRD immediately hits zero. After that, his GRD increases really rapidly. Then, while he's blocking, he suddenly flashes a little as he exits blockstun, and he loses about more than 1 unit of GRD. Is this a defensive penalty that we've missed out all this time?
1:26 - Combo into Infinite Worth for 5.5k. However, it seems that Veil Off gives a damage bonus as well, making it not completely useless. In fact, it's about a 44% damage boost. BUT, that percentage seems to lower after time, as the last hit of his crimson tornado seems to get only a 30% damage bonus.

Overall from all videos:
-Can't seem to understand the criteria to cause an Auto Recover. Seems to happen only in the air. Maybe if you spent enough time in the air without getting hit, you'll Auto Recover. When you Auto Recover, instead of being in the state of getting hit in the air, you enter your regular falling state. Maybe you fall faster, I can't really tell. Also, you can tech when you touch the ground, so maybe that's to give you full control of which direction to go towards once you land after an Auto Recover.
-The players seem to be randomly Chain Shifting in neutral, even when they already have full meter. Not sure if this gives any benefits. If any, it's giving a disadvantage to the player. Chain Shifting causes your GRD to be locked and constantly drained no matter what. More explained below:
-Apparently, when your GRD gauge gets frozen, you immediately exit Vorpal. Meaning, when you get punished for a bad Shield or you do a Chain Shift, if you are currently in Vorpal, you will lose it. While your GRD is frozen, you are ineligible for Vorpal, so it automatically goes to your opponent, given that he/she's not under the same penalty.
-I suddenly realized it... 6D is for Assault, 4D and 1D are for Shield and DD is for Chain Shift... So what does 5D do?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 02, 2012, 12:24:06 PM
5D is Concentration, ala GRD Charge.

If I have any complaints about UNIB so far, it's that it doesn't seem to want to make sense at times.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 02, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
i think the person that uploaded those videos to his or her youtube channel haven't thinked of doing any harm, but isn't better to suport the oficial youtube channel of unib?
http://www.youtube.com/user/UNIBmovie?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/UNIBmovie?feature=watch)
obs: the makers of the game have uploaded those videos at 60 fps at nico douga
http://inbirth.info/movie.html (http://inbirth.info/movie.html)
Seeing how Waldstein moved left and right before doing his bodyslam crusher super throw, I have reason to believe that the input for that is a 360.
for hyde and linne, the place that put the most complete movelist was thishttp://jbbs.livedoor.jp/game/53257/ (http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/game/53257/), but they haven't added other characters movelist yet
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 02, 2012, 05:50:44 PM
Burst: Linne doesn't grab Waldo out of blockstun.  You see him stop blocking just before she grabs him.  There's no way they would allow throwing someone in blockstun. 

Also, the auto-tech is just the safe recover after the untech bar depletes.  Apparently you can still grab people out of that shit though, making for some nasty resets.  It looks like Waldo has a lot of untapped potential as far as combos, but instead was playing heavily for resets (and boy was it paying off, holy shit).

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 02, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
5D is Concentration, ala GRD Charge.

If I have any complaints about UNIB so far, it's that it doesn't seem to want to make sense at times.

Ah yes, I forgot about Concentration. I know that feel bro, paying attention to the GRD bar has me confused, and seeing Waldstein's gameplay has my jaw dropping the whole time.

Burst: Linne doesn't grab Waldo out of blockstun.  You see him stop blocking just before she grabs him.  There's no way they would allow throwing someone in blockstun. 

Also, the auto-tech is just the safe recover after the untech bar depletes.  Apparently you can still grab people out of that shit though, making for some nasty resets.  It looks like Waldo has a lot of untapped potential as far as combos, but instead was playing heavily for resets (and boy was it paying off, holy shit).

Ah, guess I didn't pay enough attention. There's no game that lets you throw in blockstun after all. Dangit, also didn't notice the tech-timer in relation to Auto Recover. I think it's just a change of state from being air-hit to falling animation. But seeing that it's something you can't really control, that could really be exploitable by the opponent, as shown by Waldstein. Unless of course, like Half Moon Circuit Spark, you're completely invulnerable when falling after an Auto Recover.

I think Waldstein's combos themselves consist of resets. Those follow-up throws don't seem avoidable at all O.O We haven't seen if you can control the direction of air-techs or not, but even if you can, his arms are so huge, he can just pick you out from the sky from anywhere.

And, just for the record, Waldstein is pronounced wa-REN-stein for some reason.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 02, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
Yeah, someone pointed that out as soon as the site had character pages.  You also have it in your signature.  Furthermore, basically everyone here can at least read kana and has heard his name pronounced in the videos.  I think it's pretty safe to say that you can consider my calling him Waldo as 100% intentional for ironic humor purposes, rather than ignorance. 

"Where's Waldo!  Oh...nevermind, he's like the whole screen."

Way to kill the joke, chief.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 02, 2012, 11:38:11 PM
Yeah, I do have some issue about pronunciations for some reason. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 04, 2012, 06:45:40 AM
I really doubt you can avoid Waldo's resets. As Burst said, his arms are HUGE.
I haven't seen any usage of Hyde's 22A. Any videos with that, or his 5AB 6B 214A 214A 214A 623C?

Also, there's a note on the jbbs too about his 236A followup.
Code: [Select]
A派生で飛ばした円盤を破裂させる
B派生で飛ばした円盤めがけて切りかかる
Translation?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on March 04, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
ugh I could really really REALLY do without the 'COUNTER' 'COUNTER' vocal sample. It's annoying enough as is in BB.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 04, 2012, 05:54:19 PM
I really doubt you can avoid Waldo's resets. As Burst said, his arms are HUGE.
I haven't seen any usage of Hyde's 22A. Any videos with that, or his 5AB 6B 214A 214A 214A 623C?

Also, there's a note on the jbbs too about his 236A followup.
Code: [Select]
A派生で飛ばした円盤を破裂させる
B派生で飛ばした円盤めがけて切りかかる
Translation?

Something to do with the explosion property of his projectiles, probably. Need someone else to translate.

ugh I could really really REALLY do without the 'COUNTER' 'COUNTER' vocal sample. It's annoying enough as is in BB.

I quite appreciate it actually. It makes reacting to air counterhits easier because the sound makes you more aware of it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 05, 2012, 04:34:40 AM
I really doubt you can avoid Waldo's resets. As Burst said, his arms are HUGE.
I haven't seen any usage of Hyde's 22A. Any videos with that, or his 5AB 6B 214A 214A 214A 623C?

Also, there's a note on the jbbs too about his 236A followup.
Code: [Select]
A派生で飛ばした円盤を破裂させる
B派生で飛ばした円盤めがけて切りかかる
Translation?

Something to do with the explosion property of his projectiles, probably. Need someone else to translate.
If I'm reading it correctly the A version is held and the B version auto detonates.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 05, 2012, 04:57:32 PM
If I'm reading it correctly the A version is held and the B version auto detonates.
Well, that doesn't make much sense. Detonating it is just doing 236A or 236B when a fireball is already out.

Maybe 236B has a larger detonation?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Dusk Thanatos on March 05, 2012, 05:01:39 PM
He's saying B version is instant, while A version is negative edged; it detonates when you release the button
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 05, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
He's saying B version is instant, while A version is negative edged; it detonates when you release the button
I'll accept this even though it makes absolutely no sense.

So no Hyde 22A yet, eh?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 05, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
He's saying B version is instant, while A version is negative edged; it detonates when you release the button
I'll accept this even though it makes absolutely no sense.

It's sort of like C-Aoko's 421 orbs. The b version is as if you didn't hold the button and the a version is as if you did.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 05, 2012, 06:09:47 PM
It's sort of like C-Aoko's 421 orbs. The b version is as if you didn't hold the button and the a version is as if you did.
It detonates on the second 236A/B input though, so it's more like FAoko's 421 orbs.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 05, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
In that case here's what I think happens:

The initial 236 sends the projectile forward, the second input either pops it or holds it in place until you release and then pops it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 05, 2012, 09:08:36 PM
In that case here's what I think happens:

The initial 236 sends the projectile forward, the second input either pops it or holds it in place until you release and then pops it.
That actually makes sense. Also seems awesome.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 05, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
In that case here's what I think happens:

The initial 236 sends the projectile forward, the second input either pops it or holds it in place until you release and then pops it.

If I'm reading this correctly, then holding the second 236A would stop the fireball's forward momentum until you release it? That'd be pretty nice for oki purposes if that's true.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 08, 2012, 11:44:02 PM
They now have character demonstration videos for Carmine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CobwjT_cbjI&context=C486f9b4ADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-_S2S-o1f4Jvo13sEj6PpX4=), Gordeau (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOhwOEOrT0&context=C4785e63ADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-xBJkZXCoDdBei0ksuvX1Lk=), and Orie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB3gI3I-Tc0&context=C4633e6fADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-x6ecmqs69vIQRzT3uuUqYw=).
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 09, 2012, 12:36:18 PM
haven't noted this counter move before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CobwjT_cbjI#t=23s
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on March 09, 2012, 12:45:11 PM
That wasn't a counter move, she ran into a projectile.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 10, 2012, 10:23:44 PM
They now have character demonstration videos for Carmine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CobwjT_cbjI&context=C486f9b4ADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-_S2S-o1f4Jvo13sEj6PpX4=), Gordeau (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOhwOEOrT0&context=C4785e63ADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-xBJkZXCoDdBei0ksuvX1Lk=), and Orie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB3gI3I-Tc0&context=C4633e6fADvjVQa1PpcFOIGdDrK6mS-x6ecmqs69vIQRzT3uuUqYw=).

First off, here is hoping this is the new normal for FB on this game.... Second off, dear good that BGM for Gordeau's showcase is amazing. I wonder whom is doing the composition for the game. Third, anyone else liking Orie's poke happy style... I wonder what else she is capable of. Carmine gameplay seems odd but reminds me of Zato-1one for some reason. I get the odd feeling from the way that Gordeau plays that he will be alot like Ceil, and seems solid in the same manner.... that is not going to fun to go up against.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Dusk Thanatos on March 11, 2012, 01:57:01 AM
Going on that note about Hyde being able to detonate his fireballs, you can see it pretty clearly here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbdIBvbXAI&t=1m30s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbdIBvbXAI&t=1m30s)

That match has already been posted, mind, but I felt this was worth pointing out
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 11, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
Going on that note about Hyde being able to detonate his fireballs, you can see it pretty clearly here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbdIBvbXAI&t=1m30s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbdIBvbXAI&t=1m30s)

That match has already been posted, mind, but I felt this was worth pointing out

I have to wonder if the animation where he goes through an animation to make the fireball explode is releasing BE236A, 236B, or both. Also looks like he can activate the explosion even when the fireball is going through its auto-explosion from touching the opponent.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 13, 2012, 05:21:46 AM
That wasn't a counter move, she ran into a projectile.
thanks for explaning.

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20120313
phoneix downing theyr ustream? hope they aren't using webcams again....
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 13, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
I don't care if it's webcams as long as I get to see live footage of the other half of the cast.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 16, 2012, 04:06:35 AM
Site update for Vatista's wallpaper and Q&A (http://inbirth.info/topic0027.html). I'm guessing that we'll be back to infoless update normalcy until the next loketest.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 16, 2012, 06:59:03 AM
Linne's pet dragon is called Kuu-chan.

Seems like they're quite strictly updating every week. Let's see what's up next Friday.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on March 17, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
I'm guessing that we'll be back to infoless update normalcy until the next loketest.
When is the next loketest?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 17, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
I'm guessing that we'll be back to infoless update normalcy until the next loketest.
When is the next loketest?

They have yet to say, but it's probably safe to bet within a couple weeks. I somehow doubt that they want to use up the rest of their character wallpaper filler and possible final character reveal in one shot.

Happy Birthday, Linne! (http://inbirth.info/topic0028.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 17, 2012, 05:41:21 PM


They have yet to say, but it's probably safe to bet within a couple weeks. I somehow doubt that they want to use up the rest of their character wallpaper filler and possible final character reveal in one shot.

Happy Birthday, Linne! (http://inbirth.info/topic0028.html)
I immediately thought of MBAC Lens screen when I saw that.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 22, 2012, 01:14:21 PM
Bringing up some old news: They'll be hosting another UStream on the 23rd at 11PM JST.

The link on their website (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20120313) seems to be redirecting some people to the webpage, so follow this (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E5%B7%A5%E5%A0%B4%E8%A3%8Ftv) link to the UStream instead.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 23, 2012, 12:17:04 AM
Seth (http://inbirth.info/topic0029.html) wallpaper this time. Also a note saying that they'll be appearing in the next Arcadia on March 30th.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 23, 2012, 06:39:35 AM
live since 16 minutes ago
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E5%B7%A5%E5%A0%B4%E8%A3%8Ftv
http://www.ustream.tv/user/fura_pan
I don't care if it's webcams as long as I get to see live footage of the other half of the cast.
then check this stream after. It have footage of yuzuhira, vatista, seth and merkava =)
edit: for people that haven't seen it live http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21303484
edit2: just find a little grimick to download it directly from ustream database http://upmv05.ustream.tv/0/1/21/21303/21303484/1_7351707_21303484.flv
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 23, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
Holy fuck at Seth's movement.  He has some similarities to Orie, but more exaggerated.  He also has a projectile, which is good.  Lol, he even has the token fake out dash where three of him move in different directions and only one is real.

Yuzu looks like she might have an iai stance she can do various things from.  Also much less range than what I expected from that big ass sword.

The unreal black thing has massive range, as expected.  He has some level of limited flight, in essence some sort of command rejump it looks like.  Also he has a silly looking blanka bite command grab.

Vati...is looking pretty zzzzoner.  Fireball, beams at varying angles, flash kick, good backdash.  *shrugs*  I'm kind of disappointed, really.

Also somehow I didn't realize that Carmine's pools stay out even if he gets hit.  Also I think I saw Linne relaunch someone after her big spinny sword super, which is completely unnecessary.  lol
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 23, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
i think a effect of mist (like sion stage) has been adeed to  rooftop stage. I think i have seen new objects in the background that looks like modernism street too.
i liked the new scenario at 13:08 and the other at 33:22 (it's a shame they have a little problem in conection at this point)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 23, 2012, 05:44:05 PM
Seth's fireball is scary looking. It seems to leave behind a small explosion when blocked for a free pressure reset and can be angled forward, downward, and upward depending on your zoning needs. Also looks like his 3-way fake out has the fun fourth option of him not being any of the shadows and ending up where he originally was.

Yuzuriha's attacks look annoyingly fast, but I'm with Loli in that she has less range than expected. Part of me still expects to see people playing keep-away with her though.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 25, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
I don't know, but I feel Yuzuriha's attacks to have quite a long startup. Also, I think Seth's fireballs have to be manually detonated like Hyde's because sometimes on hit and on block it doesn't detonate.

I'm finding Vatista to be really scary. Instant beams and orb setups. If her beams had Neko's startup, maybe it would be okay, and if her orbs had limited range, it would be okay too, but I still think she's scary.

This game seems to be laden with lots of anti-air attacks. Yuzuriha's jumping rapid slash seems to have quite an odd usage for being so high up. Seems to work best on standing opponents, but seeing how tall the cast is, that shouldn't be an issue.

EDIT: The stream seems to mention issues like why there's no Ryougi stage in MBAACC, but that's as much as I can understand. Anyone with good moonspeak prowess paid attention to the conversation?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: djenkov ver.2.0 on March 26, 2012, 03:33:37 AM
Quote
EDIT: The stream seems to mention issues like why there's no Ryougi stage in MBAACC, but that's as much as I can understand. Anyone with good moonspeak prowess paid attention to the conversation?
This is a quote from mirror moon "Ryougi's stage is actually still in the PC version. I'm not sure if there is a proper way of unlocking it (I'm assuming you probably need to finish the game with all characters or something), but you can also unlock it by using a trainer which you can find here."
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 26, 2012, 04:14:17 AM
So it really is legitimately included in the game. In the stream, I think a fan was asking them why it wasn't included, and they mentioned something like "It's... an adult's problem" or something, but I couldn't really tell. Maybe they mentioned a real reason, but I don't know.

Also, I think Seth's fireball detonations are purely aesthetic. It's very apparent at 1:02:44 where the blue fire rages all the way until Orie hits the ground, and the hit counter doesn't go up.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sashi on March 26, 2012, 07:58:37 AM
Oh, it totally is in the game. You can get it from random stages.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 26, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
Also, I think Seth's fireball detonations are purely aesthetic. It's very apparent at 1:02:44 where the blue fire rages all the way until Orie hits the ground, and the hit counter doesn't go up.
It could provide a temporary effect outside of just extra hits/damage.  It's not uncommon to see things like hits that poison, prevent someone from blocking, lock buttons, slow movement, prevent guard bar increase, etc etc.  It's possible that the visual effect is some sort of disable.

And personally, Vatista looks like she needs more to really be a good zoner.  Her fireballs can be jumped over or even dashed under by some characters, her beams are just a guessing game of jump in vs dash in, and her shoryu is crazy unsafe.  She's like shoto status but with less options.  Her backdash isn't even as good as Orie's for running away.  zzz
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 26, 2012, 03:31:13 PM
I think I saw Vatista charge herself with lightning at around the 40:30  mark. Thanks to the quality though, I'm not entirely certain about that though.

Thanks for the conversion to .flv, caiooa.

Edit: Scratch that. Looks like the screen just flashed when Vatista briefly went into Concentration. Why oh why can't they just use streaming equimpent instead of webcams...?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 27, 2012, 01:51:47 AM
It's French Bread's unorthodox method of building up hype I guess.

Only way to really tell what that fireball does is actual viewable videos or even better, the actual game.

By the way, exactly what are those recordings? They seem to be replays, but by who? The recent loketest or did the developers play the game to record footage for this stream? Or just AI fooling around?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on March 27, 2012, 02:56:29 AM
I'm almost certain it's AI vs AI.  The characters don't react to things like a human would.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 30, 2012, 01:06:54 AM
Yuzuriha wallpaper this time. (http://inbirth.info/topic0030.html) Also a reminder that they're in the March 30th Arcadia and a note that they'll be doing something on April 1st.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 30, 2012, 06:39:28 AM
1st april jokes incoming
hope they aren't about mbhd  :bricks:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: djenkov ver.2.0 on March 30, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
Hey,since I don't follow this topic so much this may be old news for you but check the movie section on their site: http://inbirth.info/movie.html it has some cool stuff.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 30, 2012, 01:00:31 PM
Joke character announcement April 1st?!?!
Neco-cameo?!?!
 :laffo: :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 30, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
If they're feeling like being evil, they could announce a false release date and/or localization news then.
Title: TOTAL SYSTEM OVERHAUL
Post by: c001357 on March 31, 2012, 07:38:15 AM
http://inbirth.info/system.html (http://inbirth.info/system.html)
french pan updated the site to include massive system-wide changes
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 31, 2012, 08:21:37 AM
caught me offguard.  :bricks:. Yeah, it's already 1st aprill in jp.
just noted that a new character slot in blank have been adedd.
obs: the site is FULL of bugs now
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 31, 2012, 08:48:57 AM
caught me offguard.  :bricks:. Yeah, it's already 1st aprill in jp.
just noted that a new character slot in blank have been adedd.
obs: the site is FULL of bugs now
I thought I saw the new character slot but I wasn't completely sure. YAY, MORE CHARACTERS.

It's probably a neco-cameo.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on March 31, 2012, 09:18:51 AM
or waldestein junior
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4964/petwar.jpg)
but i felled the whole thing about using credit card to buy life, speed, reach for the attacks and ranks is a reference to sfxt :nyoro:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 31, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
Damn, it would be so awesome to have "IT WINS BY GOLDEN POWER" come out on screen when I win.

Also, they seem to be revamping the story, screenshot and video sections. Here's hoping for new content.

caught me offguard.  :bricks:. Yeah, it's already 1st aprill in jp.
just noted that a new character slot in blank have been adedd.
obs: the site is FULL of bugs now
I thought I saw the new character slot but I wasn't completely sure. YAY, MORE CHARACTERS.

It's probably a neco-cameo.


Actually, there certainly was an empty slot before, but now they've added a new one, meaning there are two empty slots now. :mystery:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Madscientist on March 31, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
WHERE'D LINNE GO
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 31, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
Actually, there certainly was an empty slot before, but now they've added a new one, meaning there are two empty slots now. :mystery:

WHERE'D LINNE GO

^ The reason why there's an extra slot now. They're probably just joking about making Orie the main heroine instead of Linne due to her popularity. They even replaced Linne with Orie in the site's main banner and removed all the screenshots featuring Linne.

P.S. Can anyone do a quick translation of Hyde's, Orie's and Waldstein's profiles? I wanna see if they changed those too.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on March 31, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
Holy crap, how could I not notice Linne's absence.

About their profiles, Hyde's profile mentions Orie instead of Linne now. Wald's still mentions the Yato and the Yato Princess which were originally Linne, but doesn't mention Linne directly. Orie's doesn't seem to have changed.

EDIT: Aha! A mistake by FB! In Hyde's profile, Linne is replaced by Orie except for this one line. Originally "Since then, Linne stays at Hyde's place", it is now "Since then, Linne stays at Orie's place". Also, Wald's profile does indeed mention Linne at the end.

So close...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on March 31, 2012, 08:57:18 PM
News on the Arcadia article:

Quote from: shtkn;1301504
hey guys, i don't know if this is new to you guys or not, but in the latest arcadia, they havea  photo of a new character (at least to me): hilda

she wears a dress taht's half black/white and looks like a female-er version of ash's outfit
she shoots giant laser swords
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Remzi on March 31, 2012, 09:10:53 PM
chr_lin.html, the old Linne page, gives you Orie's page too.

Sahgren, huh. Quite curious.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on April 01, 2012, 07:09:32 AM
All changes to the site have been reverted. Unfortunately, nothing new has been added.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Dipstick on April 01, 2012, 07:18:14 AM
All changes to the site have been reverted. Unfortunately, nothing new has been added.
Thankfully, someone was smart enough to save a snapshot of the system page (http://meltybread.com/ubtsystem/).

I didn't bother saving the other edited pages because that's too nitty, even for me.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on April 01, 2012, 08:52:42 AM
Lol. Although, I think we officially know that Waldstein is a 360 character.
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Post by: ehrik on April 01, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
News on the Arcadia article:

Quote from: shtkn;1301504
hey guys, i don't know if this is new to you guys or not, but in the latest arcadia, they havea  photo of a new character (at least to me): hilda

she wears a dress taht's half black/white and looks like a female-er version of ash's outfit
she shoots giant laser swords

oh nice
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Post by: LoliSauce on April 03, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
My favorite part of the april first system page was the spinoff games at the end.  UNI-UNI STADIUM, get hype!
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Post by: LivingShadow on April 05, 2012, 05:00:19 AM
If I had to guess on the character shtkn is talking about, probably the second one from the right in that concept art on page 15.
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Post by: Sahgren on April 05, 2012, 11:05:48 AM
Yeah, I guess it's pretty safe to assume that she's whom he meant. She also had her concept art appear in the trailer: [Hilda 1 (http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h412/Sahgren/hilda1.jpg)] [Hilda 2 (http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h412/Sahgren/hilda2.jpg)]

Edit: For some reason, the links don't seem to want to work...
Edit2: There it goes~.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 05, 2012, 11:32:06 PM
The newest character, Hilda (http://inbirth.info/chr_hil.html), has been added to the site.
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Post by: djenkov ver.2.0 on April 06, 2012, 12:19:57 AM
Her looks are kinda disappointing.
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Post by: Numakie on April 06, 2012, 01:19:48 AM
Hmm...
Not a loli...
Or a teen...
And pretty damn stacked....
I might wanna use her.  :bleh:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on April 06, 2012, 04:05:23 AM
Great, another week until screenshots are out...

Any quick translations of her bio? Google translate works more inefficiently on her than the other characters...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on April 06, 2012, 04:07:03 AM
Hmm...
Not a loli...
Or a teen...
And pretty damn stacked....
I might wanna use her.  :bleh:
You and Chibi really do have the same character selection requirements, holy fuck.  lol
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 06, 2012, 12:00:21 PM
HILDA

Height - 171cm
Weight - 59kg
3 Sizes - 94/63/95    
Birthday - 11/11
Blood Type - AB
Ability - EXS of the Glittering Haze  "Paradox"
Weapon - Gown of Darkness (Masquerade)

"A Reverse that surpassed the Inverse... That is the only thing I seek."



... Right. I kinda want to see how she uses her clothes as a weapon. :V
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on April 06, 2012, 12:30:58 PM
If its anything like waras cape....
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Post by: Sahgren on April 06, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
So Wara with Nu/Lambda's laser swords?
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Post by: Sashi on April 06, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
Probably gonna strip 'cause she's not pure like Orie.
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Post by: Forte Wily on April 07, 2012, 03:53:24 AM
HILDA

Height - 171cm
Weight - 59kg
3 Sizes - 94/63/95    
Birthday - 11/11
Blood Type - AB
Ability - EXS of the Glittering Haze  "Paradox"
Weapon - Gown of Darkness (Masquerade)

"A Reverse that surpassed the Inverse... That is the only thing I seek."



... Right. I kinda want to see how she uses her clothes as a weapon. :V

Assuming that she does.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 07, 2012, 01:51:57 PM
Most characters have been pretty good at using their listed weapon as a weapon, actually.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: The505 on April 07, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Yuzuriha second pic (http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_yuz01.jpg) reminds me of youmu's j.a  :psyduck:

if this is the case then i have found my new main.  :laffo:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on April 08, 2012, 08:25:38 AM
I didn't realize that Hilda had heterochromia until just now.  :slowpoke:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 08, 2012, 04:01:59 PM
You know, something that I just noticed... it hasn't held up production or anything but I do wonder, whom are the people voicing the characters in this game?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: SparklyDemonLord on April 08, 2012, 04:20:52 PM
I for one am holding out hope that they're all voiced by Norio Wakamoto.  Every last one.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 08, 2012, 04:37:20 PM
Last thing I heard regarding VA's in this game was that they wanted Mamoru Miyano to do Hyde but he was too busy or something.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 08, 2012, 04:47:31 PM
Last thing I heard regarding VA's in this game was that they wanted Mamoru Miyano to do Hyde but he was too busy or something.
When was that?
I for one am holding out hope that they're all voiced by Norio Wakamoto.  Every last one.
As much as I respect the guy... unless you have a character that seem to just work with his range, it's hard to say that Wakamoto should be voicing anyone.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 08, 2012, 10:36:20 PM
They were talking about the April Fools thing where the characters had alternate costumes "based on their voice actors' other roles". Then they mentioned that Mamoru Miyano had too many roles in the same genre to do.

Hyde was dressed up as Takuto from Star Driver, who was voiced by Miyano.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on April 09, 2012, 05:11:13 AM
They were talking about the April Fools thing where the characters had alternate costumes "based on their voice actors' other roles". Then they mentioned that Mamoru Miyano had too many roles in the same genre to do.

Hyde was dressed up as Takuto from Star Driver, who was voiced by Miyano.
If that's true, Vatista is probably voiced by Chiwa Saito.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 09, 2012, 12:24:06 PM
If that's true, Vatista is probably voiced by Chiwa Saito.

Oh, that can't be good if that is the case.....
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 09, 2012, 12:33:35 PM
The "based on their voice actors' other roles" thing was in quotes because they said it wasn't true.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 10, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
The "based on their voice actors' other roles" thing was in quotes because they said it wasn't true.
I figured that, but what is not to say that she isn't hired anyway...  but meh, well see what is going on in due time.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 12, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
Hilda screenshots (http://inbirth.info/topic0032.html) are now available.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on April 13, 2012, 12:01:30 AM
She doesn't seem to boss character-like. Should be the 'unlockable after beating the story mode' kind of character.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on April 13, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Bah
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Post by: LoliSauce on April 13, 2012, 12:11:39 AM
Whoa, she's got some Yukari shit.  And do you see how much space is covered by that spinning blade in the last picture?  Ridiculous.  I hope she is boss only.

Quote from: irc
[01:16]   <only_SK_hates_you>   LoliSauce: that would be fine until you look at some of the other chars attacks
[01:16]   <only_SK_hates_you>   unless that's like
[01:16]   <only_SK_hates_you>   her 5A
[01:17]   <only_SK_hates_you>   I doubt you could say she should be bosschara
Point taken, but that attack is still stupid.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: F9|Chibi on April 13, 2012, 08:09:18 AM
BOOBS
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Post by: Numakie on April 13, 2012, 08:37:01 AM
Portals
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Post by: WYVERN LORD on April 13, 2012, 09:30:32 AM
chibi always has his priorities straight

anyways this character looks hype, with yuzuriha and carmine french bread ain't screwing up character designs
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Mizter Poyo on April 13, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
Whoa, she's got some Yukari shit.
BOOBS
Yeah... and, maybe it's just my impression, but in terms of design (clothes and stuff) she looks like some sort of KOF character, actually, in the 4th screenshot, the motion reminds me to KOF stuff for me, but as I said, it could be just my impression.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 13, 2012, 01:55:37 PM
Happy Birthday, Hyde! (http://inbirth.info/topic0033.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 20, 2012, 12:16:48 AM
Hilda Twitter avas (http://inbirth.info/topic0034.html) this time.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on April 20, 2012, 03:58:36 AM
Quote from: Q&A
"How old is Hilda?"

Hilda - Amnesia's Hilda is 17 years old.
Gordeau - Hey!

Voice actor joke?

Quote from: Q&A
"What character do you recommend for a beginner?"

Hyde - At a time like that, select me, the king of protagonists.
Linne - Focusing on nothing but what's straight ahead of you is pretty Hyde-ish.


Quote from: Q&A
"I think Carmine looks cool to use, but is he easy to use?"

Carmine - Aren't you hype about hard to use characters?! (I will humbly receive your selection, thank you.)

Quote from: Q&A
"So, in the end, who's the main heroine?"

Linne - *glance*
Orie - *glance*
Yuzuriha - The truth is that it's actually me!
Vatista - I see. Quite the interesting development.

Quote from: Q&A
"Why does Orie's skirt flutter so much?"

Linne - Her overflowing fighting spirit can't be restrained... perhaps?
Hyde - Night after night, that skirt wanders around on its own...
Orie - Hang on, it does nothing of the sort!

These things are mildly amusing.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 20, 2012, 12:20:25 PM
Heh, I do like that they're cracking jokes with the Q&A now.

It kinda looks like they're running out of fill-esque updates. If they're doing the same things as before, the only thing they have left for Hilda are the wallpapers.
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Post by: ehrik on April 20, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
Needs more vids and arcade release
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Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on April 22, 2012, 09:43:32 AM
I for one am holding out hope that they're all voiced by Norio Wakamoto.  Every last one.
As much as I respect the guy... unless you have a character that seem to just work with his range, it's hard to say that Wakamoto should be voicing anyone.

Man what!? You mean to tell me you don't think Wakamoto would be a beastly choice for at LEAST Waldenstein?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on April 22, 2012, 10:03:17 AM
I personally don't think it would work for Waldstein, maybe Gordeau.
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Post by: ehrik on April 22, 2012, 02:06:17 PM
if theres a playable loketest version or the game is out in arcades by august, I'll let you guys know what i think of the game when i visit jp
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 22, 2012, 02:09:40 PM
Thanks, Ehrik. Would you mind if I post what you find on MayonakaMidnight and Dustloop?
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Post by: ehrik on April 22, 2012, 02:27:12 PM
i'll make appropriate posts in each place at the same time
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Post by: Tonberry on April 22, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
i'll make appropriate posts in each place at the same time

Make sure your post doesn't quote anyone~
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Post by: Rokunaya on April 22, 2012, 10:15:44 PM
i'll make appropriate posts in each place at the same time

Make sure your post doesn't quote anyone~

Make sure it's genki sounding
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Greg on April 23, 2012, 12:29:11 AM
i'll make appropriate posts in each place at the same time
Make sure your post doesn't quote anyone~
Make sure it's genki sounding

Your mom was genki sounding when I split her up the middle with my blood heat cock drive.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 23, 2012, 05:32:07 PM
I personally don't think it would work for Waldstein, maybe Gordeau.

Maybe, I would need more details of Gordeau to say for certain.
 
Quote from: Q&A
"How old is Hilda?"

Hilda - Amnesia's Hilda is 17 years old.
Gordeau - Hey!

Voice actor joke?

Hmmmm.... Kikuko Inoue? That joke sounds like one of hers...

if theres a playable loketest version or the game is out in arcades by august, I'll let you guys know what i think of the game when i visit jp

Hmmm... Cool. And thank you.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on April 27, 2012, 12:19:34 AM
Hilda wallpapers out (http://inbirth.info/topic0035.html). Q&A is a flood of people wanting a loketest.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on April 27, 2012, 07:08:17 PM
Which leaves the next update to be not wallpapers and Twitter AVs. Wonder what comes next...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on April 30, 2012, 07:11:00 AM
That is a very good question.
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Post by: FireBearHero on April 30, 2012, 10:51:34 PM
The announcement of the comeback mechanic.  :emo: (I mean besides the one where you're good at the game)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 04, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
Chibi Hyde wallpaper (http://inbirth.info/topic0036.html) now available. So that's what they're doing for filler now...
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on May 04, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Damnit that's a hype killer =.=
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Post by: Rowanism on May 04, 2012, 03:28:22 AM
Brooklyn Rage.
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Post by: ehrik on May 04, 2012, 05:05:54 AM
hype
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Post by: LivingShadow on May 04, 2012, 06:09:37 AM
Now they're just trolling.
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 04, 2012, 06:54:06 AM
The announcement of the comeback mechanic.  :emo: (I mean besides the one where you're good at the game)

I don't mind comeback mechanics so long as they don't give the losing player a huge arbitrary advantage while doing so.  So long as they are not arbitrary, and limited to players own actions.... (P4U's Awakening, SxT's Pandora, etc.), it's not as bad as most players have thought. That said, it's a matter of building these things with that in mind... giving the losing player a chance at making "the comeback" and not become this large red "I win, you lose" button.

And as the industry has shown quickly, this is something that is too easy to get wrong.
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Post by: ehrik on May 04, 2012, 07:27:38 AM
Xfactor let's go
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Post by: LivingShadow on May 04, 2012, 08:21:39 AM
Xfactor let's go
We already do have an activation of some kind.
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Post by: LoliSauce on May 04, 2012, 03:29:57 PM
Looks like the pushblock is probably the biggest comeback mechanic alongside the unlimited meter activation.  I'm hoping that what we saw in the early loketest holds true and pressure isn't as dumb as modern anime games.  Most people have some amount of big normals or zoning potential, so hopefully the neutral game is a little more emphasized as well.
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Post by: Erkz on May 04, 2012, 06:44:21 PM
So apparently:

- Hyde's last name is Kido
- Orie is a class-chairman type character
- Vatista has forehead lasers
- Waldstein uses his claws to cook [and Hyde's selling them for 8100 Yen]
- Gordeau's 'weapon' is pretty long, according to Yuzuriha



Videos where? Cheap humor can only distract people from the fact that this game isn't out yet for so long.  :gonk:

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 04, 2012, 07:24:38 PM
I do remember them mentioning somewhere in last week's Q&A that they were looking into setting up another loketest. Google Translate might just be throwing me for a loop though.
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Post by: Erkz on May 04, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Yeah, IIRC they mentioned Loketests, but they didn't have a definite date planned yet or something.

Edit:
FB streaming on the 11th at 23:00 J-time.

Send questions here. (http://dp55025150.lolipop.jp/transistar_wp/?page_id=46)
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 08, 2012, 01:32:54 AM
Xfactor let's go

Ok, X-factor(as of Ultimate Marvel) is rather weird on that argument.... on one hand, it's completely reliant on players actions, you still have to know the character and the combos to really make any use of it. But that said, that is really it's only limitation. You don't have to earn it during the course of the fight, the bonuses that is gives are substantial (even as lvl 1,  X-factor with any long combo can kill a character outright...maybe two, even then the speed-up still has it's uses), and there is no real penalty for having used it (sure, you lose  X-factor as a random variable in the fight but that is really it. If you know the character and/or the match-up, you can more than compensate for that loss).
In many ways, Pandora is built on the same principles as  X-factor save for one thing.... you are given a heavy penalty for simply using it and not putting it to good use.
So on one hand,  X-factor fits somewhat by simply being defined by the player and their actions, the problem being that  X-factor is built to be giving the player an arbitrary advantage by being freely given, having really high bonuses even at lower levels, and using it is at no risk to the player (the lack of penalty). Where as Pandora is a gamble to be made with the heavy penalty for use and Awakening is only something that applies at 25% of vitality (and even then, it's changes defensive properties, gives one extra super of varying usability and extends maximum special points are not really big bonuses to the losing player) and just gives a player more to work with.


Looks like the pushblock is probably the biggest comeback mechanic alongside the unlimited meter activation.
Their are those and then there is one thing that I think could be overlooked but might be a factor as a comeback mechanic. That is Grind, it has some defensive properties that would be rather handy in keeping a character alive after being hit... that said... it needs to be activated, and I am not familiar to anything else that grind has in terms of duration after activation (it doesn't seem to be long, but I could be wrong) or anything else. Still like Awakening, that is simply giving players more tools to use than some arbitrary advantage.


Yeah, IIRC they mentioned Loketests, but they didn't have a definite date planned yet or something.

Edit:
FB streaming on the 11th at 23:00 J-time.

Send questions here. (http://dp55025150.lolipop.jp/transistar_wp/?page_id=46)

You know, one of these odd days we should compile a set of questions to be translated and sent to FB...

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 08, 2012, 09:15:33 AM
FB streaming on the 11th at 23:00 J-time.

Send questions here. (http://dp55025150.lolipop.jp/transistar_wp/?page_id=46)

A part of me still stubbornly refuses to lose hope that this won't just be a Q&A on stream.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on May 08, 2012, 02:27:24 PM
i would be happy to see more footage of the characters....even if it's a shakecam
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on May 08, 2012, 04:12:58 PM
Looks like the pushblock is probably the biggest comeback mechanic alongside the unlimited meter activation.
Their are those and then there is one thing that I think could be overlooked but might be a factor as a comeback mechanic. That is Grind, it has some defensive properties that would be rather handy in keeping a character alive after being hit... that said... it needs to be activated, and I am not familiar to anything else that grind has in terms of duration after activation (it doesn't seem to be long, but I could be wrong) or anything else. Still like Awakening, that is simply giving players more tools to use than some arbitrary advantage.
What are you talking about?  Grind only gives a bonus when you are in the lead for vorpal status, and as far as I could tell that only provides an offensive boost.  The only kind of activation relating to it is when you burn all your GRD to add in EXS meter.

Btw, Ehrik's comment was a joke.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on May 09, 2012, 05:04:22 AM
FB streaming on the 11th at 23:00 J-time.

Send questions here. (http://dp55025150.lolipop.jp/transistar_wp/?page_id=46)

A part of me still stubbornly refuses to lose hope that this won't just be a Q&A on stream.

If it's Q&A with some footage in the background, I'll still be more than happy.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 11, 2012, 12:37:14 AM
Chibi Linne Wallpaper (http://inbirth.info/topic0038.html) now available. Q&A is just people asking about how to abbreviate the name...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: FireBearHero on May 11, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
The announcement of the comeback mechanic.  :emo: (I mean besides the one where you're good at the game)

I don't mind comeback mechanics so long as they don't give the losing player a huge arbitrary advantage while doing so.  So long as they are not arbitrary, and limited to players own actions.... (P4U's Awakening, SxT's Pandora, etc.), it's not as bad as most players have thought. That said, it's a matter of building these things with that in mind... giving the losing player a chance at making "the comeback" and not become this large red "I win, you lose" button.

And as the industry has shown quickly, this is something that is too easy to get wrong.

Being good at the game gives the losing player a chance at making a comeback.
Coming out on top of any situation (for example with an ultra) because you're rewarded for losing means you don't have to be good or as good at the game.
This makes worse players worse because the need to play well is negated by a degree.

So comeback mechanics are always, always, a bad addition to a fighting game. You may like it because you need the help, but it's just hurting you.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on May 16, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
The announcement of the comeback mechanic.  :emo: (I mean besides the one where you're good at the game)

I don't mind comeback mechanics so long as they don't give the losing player a huge arbitrary advantage while doing so.  So long as they are not arbitrary, and limited to players own actions.... (P4U's Awakening, SxT's Pandora, etc.), it's not as bad as most players have thought. That said, it's a matter of building these things with that in mind... giving the losing player a chance at making "the comeback" and not become this large red "I win, you lose" button.

And as the industry has shown quickly, this is something that is too easy to get wrong.

Being good at the game gives the losing player a chance at making a comeback.
Coming out on top of any situation (for example with an ultra) because you're rewarded for losing means you don't have to be good or as good at the game.
This makes worse players worse because the need to play well is negated by a degree.

So comeback mechanics are always, always, a bad addition to a fighting game. You may like it because you need the help, but it's just hurting you.

Part of the problem stems from the fact that some developers see a "need" to do something about the basic, inalienable fundamental of a fighting game: some one has to win and some one has to lose. But the comeback mechanic fails to do anything to really get around that. In the end, there is no way to make it so that "everybody is a winner" in the end.

Practically every other type of entertainment that can be taken to a competitive level, from actual sports to Chess to card games, don't have anything akin to this. So, why is it that fighting games "must" have this, I wonder...?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Luckydude23 on May 16, 2012, 06:52:37 PM
So what's the comeback mechanic in the game? I was out of town for a bit and missed any new info. :-[
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on May 16, 2012, 09:39:04 PM
As far as I know there isn't one in UNIB yet. There is an activation of some sort, but I don't remember what it does.

Practically every other type of entertainment that can be taken to a competitive level, from actual sports to Chess to card games, don't have anything akin to this. So, why is it that fighting games "must" have this, I wonder...?

That's debatable for certain card games that I will not mention.


With regards to "comeback mechanics," I think its the developers trying to incorporate strong options. However, the problem comes when the mechanic is too strong or one-dimensional. One good way to see this is to compare Heat Activation and XFactor.

XFactor (forgive me if I get any of this wrong, I don't play MvC3):
Has its own bar
Fairly large damage boost, varies based on XFactor "Level"
Speed boost, varies based on XFactor "Level"
Can be used to cancel just about anything
HP recovery, varies based on XFactor "Level"

Heat/Max mode:
Uses Magic circuit just like EXs do
HP recovery, stops when blocking or hit, speed depends on moon and version of heat mode
Can be used to cancel certain moves (full moon only)
Slight damage and defense boost (crescent moon only)
Can be used to get out of combos (bursting)
Bursting happens automatically (Half Moon only)
Can be used as a pseudo-reversal (activation)

The first thing I'd like to point out is that Heat Activation is primarily defensive. It has three offensive applications, one for each moon: IH canceling, auto-burst, and damage/defense boost. But other than that it is defensive: getting out of combos, reversal, HP Recovery.

It also has a lot of utility on usage. Since it uses the same meter as the EX moves we are forced to choose between using the activation and using the EX moves (or a combination of both). Full can use IH canceling for just about anything.

Comparing that to XFactor, XFactor is extremely one-dimensional. It's primary usage is offense, as a damage booster to kill, as a cancel to continue a combo for a kill, or as a speed booster to get an attack in (to kill). The healing is just an extra bonus, people probably would complain about it just as much if there was no healing attached.

Also when comparing the two, it should be noted that the bonuses that they share are Stronger in XFactor. The damage boost is higher and the healing is faster.

Enough of that, let's get back to discussing UNIB.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 18, 2012, 01:54:44 AM
There will be a loketest in early-mid June (http://inbirth.info/topic0039.html). Not that specific, but I'll take what I can get.

Also, there's a chibi Waldstein wallpaper.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on May 18, 2012, 12:23:57 PM

Btw, Ehrik's comment was a joke.
Ugh...  :prinny: :psyduck:
Part of the problem stems from the fact that some developers see a "need" to do something about the basic, inalienable fundamental of a fighting game: some one has to win and some one has to lose. But the comeback mechanic fails to do anything to really get around that. In the end, there is no way to make it so that "everybody is a winner" in the end.

Practically every other type of entertainment that can be taken to a competitive level, from actual sports to Chess to card games, don't have anything akin to this. So, why is it that fighting games "must" have this, I wonder...?
Because the fun of any fight is the tension between players, so long as it's back and forth between any two players in a game... you have the spot when all the fun really comes from. The problem is not every one is at high-level (where that tension is almost-natural) and, frankly, not every person that plays a fighting game is going to be that skilled or going to get that skilled. Hence the need to keep things from getting completely one sided.

As I said in earlier posts, this is something that is way too easy to get wrong since you are manipulating factors into any scenario of a match... and that is simply inviting developers to give the losing player something big to tilt a match with. Skill is completely artificial at that point, which is much of where the rage over comeback mechanics comes from. So long as it is not arbitrary to the match scenario, then you have something that will still value skill (and require it). I am all for more of that non-arbitrary comeback mechanics.... if a game comes with one.

But enough of this, back to UNIB.
There will be a loketest in early-mid June (http://inbirth.info/topic0039.html). Not that specific, but I'll take what I can get.

Well, now we have something... no location?
Quote
Also, there's a chibi Waldstein wallpaper.
And all is normal...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 18, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
As far as location goes, they do say that they it'll be at several places. From previous Q&A, it seems like there were a number of people who were upset that they couldn't try the game before because they weren't in the area.
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Post by: Sahgren on May 24, 2012, 10:59:22 PM
Chibi Carmine (http://inbirth.info/topic0040.html) wallpaper now available.

They claim they'll have more details about the next loketest in next week's update.
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Post by: LoliSauce on May 27, 2012, 02:33:09 AM
How can a chibi be so angry?
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Post by: Forte Wily on May 27, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
How can a chibi be so angry?
I don't know...  :mystery:
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on May 31, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Relevant UNiB info! (http://inbirth.info/topic0041.html) brb, dying of shock.

The next loketest will be on Saturday, June 9-10th at 3 different locations.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 01, 2012, 04:33:57 AM
Hope the have the full roster playable at this point.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on June 06, 2012, 07:31:36 AM
it looks like just Merkava (unreal black thing) and Vatista (red len) are added at this point.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20120606084/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20120606084/)
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Post by: LivingShadow on June 06, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
I think I preferred the old layout.
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Post by: Sahgren on June 06, 2012, 11:38:35 AM
I don't mind the super bar changing to be perfectly straight, but I think I preferred having the health bar curved. It gave a feeling of really being at critical health when you were on the bottom part of the bar.
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Post by: Red Leather Jacket on June 06, 2012, 11:47:19 AM
UI looks kinda boring now, not that UI design really effects my interest in this game.

Still hype to see some Seth gameplay sometime in the far flung future.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Cristu on June 06, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
I like the new one better. Curved = SFxT = sucks :|
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Post by: F9|Chibi on June 06, 2012, 03:52:07 PM
How can a chibi be so angry?

Quite easily.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on June 07, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
Looks like the UI is more "traditional" now too. I guess those curves were just too much.
When did this happen?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 08, 2012, 06:20:55 AM
I assume the latest update is just listing the times and venus of the loketests for tomorrow?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 08, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
I assume the latest update is just listing the times and venus of the loketests for tomorrow?

Yep, and further confirmation that Merkava and Vatista are in the loketest. Still no news of Yuzuriha, Seth, or Hilda.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 09, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
[14:55]   <Satsu>   i went to check out p4u and undernight inbirth yesterday
[14:56]   <Satsu>   undernight inbirth is probably one of the best fighting games ive played so far
[14:56]   <Satsu>   it was awesome
[14:56]   <Satsu>   i had to line up for an hour to play a single match lol
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on June 09, 2012, 11:33:50 PM
I'll believe it when I play it
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 10, 2012, 01:02:05 AM
Posted it up more as a sign of unib getting a lot of play, which if it continues after the full release should lead to frenchbread staying quite healthy.

Will it lead to eventual overseas localization?  Survey says...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 10, 2012, 02:16:33 AM
If they want to match up to "that hateful Blazblue", they better.

Any chance of shakycam vids? Or the even lower chance of official footage release?
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Post by: caiooa on June 10, 2012, 08:44:12 AM
http://oggg.dip.jp/index.php?e=1566
it look's like that site have a good compilation of the movelist (including merkava and batista)
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Post by: Erkz on June 10, 2012, 09:50:35 AM
http://oggg.dip.jp/index.php?e=1566
it look's like that site have a good compilation of the movelist (including merkava and batista)

It also has a bunch of random tidbits about the game itself.

- In the character select screen, "Start" brings up the color select menu. There are 10 colors to choose from. Changing character colors also changes the color of their effects.
- Double Jump, Air Dash are NOT basic moves for everyone. [Some characters have them though.]
- You can move before the round starts.
- There are directional attacks.
- AAA = Simple Combo
- There are Dash Attacks [With B and C only]
- Voice Actors still haven't been decided yet.
- Whiffing attacks B and stronger builds meter.
- If you do an Infinite Worth at the edge of the screen, you'll move to the center when it ends.
- You cannot kill with chip damage.
- EX Moves are not invincible. They also have a relatively short duration.
- You can roll when downed.
- ABCABC is a relatively easy to connect combo.

Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on June 10, 2012, 09:53:11 AM
Fuck

Edit: thanks for trans tho

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Post by: Coren on June 10, 2012, 09:59:44 AM
BlazeBlood: Ultimate in unreal-black things arena.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 10, 2012, 11:35:45 AM
We got footage! Vatista vs Merkava (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulGRYHaQIU) shakycam.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Numakie on June 10, 2012, 12:13:30 PM
Hmm.. I'm actually interested in using loli lambda now.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on June 10, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
this is one of the 3 videos of locktest's first day that are in nico. The other two
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18066982 (vatista vs orie)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18066949 (merkava vs orie)
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Post by: Erkz on June 10, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
Neat.

Also is that some Moonwalker I spy in the background?
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Post by: Sahgren on June 10, 2012, 12:43:45 PM
this is one of the 3 videos of locktest's first day that are in nico. The other two
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18066982 (vatista vs orie)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18066949 (merkava vs orie)

Uploaded to Youtube courtesy of Jourdal.

Merkava vs Orie (http://youtu.be/9wyozEsKq-4)
Vatista vs Orie (http://youtu.be/sKBrqT2tuas)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 10, 2012, 01:31:58 PM
Is this game going to be all day rejump combos?
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Post by: LivingShadow on June 10, 2012, 01:37:53 PM
Is this game going to be all day rejump combos?

Probably, but I think that Linne is going to use some sort of dash combo.

Merkava looks silly in multiple ways, but that's a good thing.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 11, 2012, 04:07:35 AM
Seems like there can be more than one jump cancel in one combo. Hoorah. And they removed the curves on the health bar, but added different colours for different levels of health.

Merkava:
-DAT RANGE. ALL his air normals can probably hit crouchers at the pinnacle of his jump. Also, FULL SCREEN GRAB.
-Can launch projectiles and dive at the same speed, having the illusion of a dive-kick.
-Unlike Hime, he can fly without meter cost. Probably for a short duration only.
-Lotsa spinny moves. Even his IW.

Vatista:
-Aside from blades, orbs. Proxy mine jewels and massive zoning EX floating orb.
-Has a knockdown followup after shoryu.

Orie:
-Jumping kick followup after knight summon? Knight uppercut EX? New moves or just moves we haven't see before?
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Post by: caiooa on June 11, 2012, 08:12:29 AM
I'm liking merkava animations. He resemble zato and twelve, at the same time he is very different from both.
more one video in nico (vatista vs carmine this time)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18072210
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18072210
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 11, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
The Merkava and Vatista movelists were translated courtesy of SoWL on DustLoop (http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11035-Under-Night-In-Birth-(New-French-Bread-Fighting-Game)&p=1341168&viewfull=1#post1341168).

Quote from: SoWL
Okay, seems like Vatista's movelist goes like this:

Lumen Stella ([4]6A/B/C) - shoots a projectile. The speed and the trajectory depends on the button pressed (with the options being slow+mid, fast+mid and fast+low). You can perform it in midair with the 236A/B/C command, with different trajectories. The EX version shoots a Dark Angel-like ball that floats forward, bouncing up and down.
Luber Angelus ([2]8A/B/C) - A Flash Kick-like move with the wing slashes. You can follow it up with additional attacks by pressing different buttons. The EX version makes her jump up and down a couple of times.
Redeus Fragmentum ([A]/[ B]/[C] - Releases a hovering crystal that stays in place for as long as the button is held. Releasing the button explodes it; if you are hit before you release the button, the crystal disappears without doing anything. The position of the crystal depends on the button held. Can be performed in midair.
Racteus Orbis (41236D) - Infinite Worth, shoots a huge laser out of the symbol made with the wings. The start-up seems kinda fast.

Making the setup move a charge seems to be quite important.

And that metallic Carmine color is so cool.

EDIT: Are we really sure that there are no voices on this loketest? I'm pretty sure that I can hear Merkava's victory quote here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulGRYHaQIU&t=3m49s).

DOUBLE EDIT: Found that link posted on Melty, updated the movelist for Vatista. Here's the one for Merkava:

『We, lash』 (236A/B/C) - Merkava moves forward, slashing with his hands repeatedly. Seems like one of the buttons makes him jump before performing the move. The EX version is a follow-up to the regular one; Merkava grabs the enemy, drags them along the ground, and throws them at the ground in the center of the screen.
『We, capture and devour』 (214A/B/C) - Merkava stretches his arms, catches the opponent, pulls himself to them and bites them. The trajectory is changed by pressing a different button; moreover, you can hold the button down to increase the range. The EX version seems to come out faster and at maximum range. Note that the long-ranged attacks that don't throw the opponent are his command C normals.
『We、breathe』 (214A/B/C in midair) - Merkava either spits a projectile downwards or performs a dive kick. I suppose that A version is a dive kick, B version shoots a projectile below Merkava, and C version shoots it diagonally downward.
『We, annihilate』 (41236D) - Infinite Worth; Merkava performs a fierce lashing attack around him.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 11, 2012, 11:15:08 AM
Wow, if Vatista can really just pop out orbs by holding down a button, does that mean she can just hold down the button after an attack and do some aoko level blockstring shit?  Sounds potentially cool, but I can't play charge characters for shit so there go my dreams of mashing on tron loli.

So far only ones I'm interested to play are Gordeau, Hyde, and I guess Linne.  Gordeau command grab still pumps me up.
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Post by: LivingShadow on June 11, 2012, 12:33:17 PM
Vatista sounds fun, I don't know about the charge moves but I may be able to work with her despite that.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 11, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
New video: Gordeau vs Orie (NicoNico) (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18075133). Looks like people are trying re-jump x N, but the combo prorates too heavily to continue partway through the second jump.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on June 11, 2012, 10:15:32 PM
Man, Gordeau has some pretty short range air normals for such long range ground stuff.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 12, 2012, 02:35:17 AM
Another new addition: They now announce how many hits you do in a combo that are invalid. Good for "debugging" your combos I guess. Also, more details about your combo damage. The words are too small to see in these videos.

Vatista's held jewel seems to have quite a wide explosion radius.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on June 13, 2012, 07:06:24 AM
And they removed the curves on the health bar, but added different colours for different levels of health.



Why do I get the feeling that the current UI is a place holder?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: ehrik on June 13, 2012, 09:54:01 AM
http://mayonakamidnight.com/showthread.php?365-Under-Night-In-Birth-General-Discussion&p=9567&viewfull=1#post9567 I can't control the tears and laughter
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: WYVERN LORD on June 13, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
lol maybe he'll make us a loketest tierlist
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Post by: LoliSauce on June 13, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
Ugh.
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Post by: Rowanism on June 13, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
huehuehue
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 14, 2012, 12:25:54 AM
More movelist translations courtesy of SoWL (http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11035-Under-Night-In-Birth-(New-French-Bread-Fighting-Game)&p=1342853&viewfull=1#post1342853).

Quote from: SoWL
Orie:
Divine Thrust (236A/B/C) - A quick thrust forward that may whiff on sitting small enemies. The B version can be charged. The EX version is faster and goes through the opponent.
Sacred Spire (623A/B/C) - An anti-air multi-hit attack. The EX version deals more hits.
Come Forth/Command Order (214A/B/C, can be done in midair) - Summons Orie's Stand that attacks the enemy. Different buttons perform different attacks, and you can follow up the attack with the same input. The B version is the upward sword slash that can be followed up, the EX version is the multi-hit sphere of light that appears near the enemy.
Luminous Embrace (41236D) - Infinite Worth, makes Orie shoot a wave of light at the enemy. Easy to use, since it's pretty fast.

Gordeau:
Mortal Slide (236A/B/C) - Gordeau attacks with his scythe. By inputting the command again, you can pull in the opponent. The EX version performs an additional grab attack after the pull.
Grim Reaper (623A/B/C) - Gordeau spins the scytche, covering a lot of space. It seems like he can even hit the enemies that are behind him. The EX version blows the enemy away.
Assimilation (214A/B/C) - The command grab that drains a single GRD charge. Seems like you can grab with it even while the opponent is in midair?
Name unconfirmed (22A/B/C) - The A version is a low attack with the scythe; B and C version make Gordeau jump, spin the scythe like a helicopter, and perform an overhead attack. The EX version is a faster B/C one.
Turbulence (41236D) - Infinite Worth; Gordeau performs a long combo with the scythe. He continues it even if the first hit is guarded. The last hit blows the enemy away.

Waldstein:
He's a bit starved for the gameplay info. The only decent info that is written here is that his 360 can be performed in midair and its EX version waits for the enemy to get near him, and that his 214A/B/C is a rushing grab with a long start-up. Oh, and he seems to have a special attack against downed enemies, but there is no confirmed input for it yet.

Edit: An update on Waldstein, Hyde, Linne, and Carmine by SoWL (http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11035-Under-Night-In-Birth-(New-French-Bread-Fighting-Game)&p=1342934&viewfull=1#post1342934).

Quote from: SoWL
Figuring out Waldstein is harder than I expected. His 236 is a long-ranged swing that moves him forward a bit, with the EX version swinging a couple of times more. That's the simple part, though I'm not sure about the reason he has this move (maybe it has super-armor?). But then you see all his different throws, see that only two of them are written in his movelist, and things get messy. So far, he seems to have:
- A regular throw
- A regular 360 "huge damage" throw
- An aerial version of the 360 throw
- A rushing wall slam throw (214A/B/C)
- An anti-air knockdown throw
- An overhead (blockable?) throw that can hit jumping opponents
- A throw that bounces the opponent off the wall and can combo into itself (and can hit them while they jump, too)
- An Infinite Worth super-throw

I'm almost sure that, like with Kira from Arcana Heart, some of these throws are just different versions of the same move, but still, that's a damn lot of throws to work with.

EDIT: And for the last three characters for now...

Hyde:
Black Orbiter (236A/B/C) - Shots a spinning round projectile that returns to Hyde after a while. It has two follow-ups: 236A makes it explode without returning, 236B makes Hyde step forward and attack at the projectile's position. The EX version deals multiple hits, allowing Hyde to attack while it's still launched. Also has a similar aerial version, though it doesn't seem to have any follow-ups.
Name unconfirmed (22A/B/C) - Hyde stabs the ground, attacking with a weak shockwave. The range of the shockwave depends on the button pressed.
Red-Clad Craver (623A/B/C) - Your regular shoryuken-like move. The EX version performs a short combo which rushes to the opponent before the actual shoryuken.
Vacant Shift First (214A/B/C) - A Gauntle Hades-like jumping attack. The distance traveled depends on the button pressed. You can follow it up up to two times, with the last hit knocking the enemy down (I guess those are Vacant Shift Second and Third). The EX version performs the follow-ups automatically.
Gyre Vortex (41236D) - Infinite Worth; Hyde stabs the ground with his sword and creates a red whirlwind around himself. Can OTG, blows the enemy away.

Linne:
Can double-jump.
Sky Fang (236A/B/C, can be done in midair) - Linne shoots a small quick projectile. The distance it travels changes with the button pressed. The EX version deals multiple hits, allowing Linne to attack while it's still launched.
Moon Circle (623A/B/C) - Another boring anti-air move. The B and C versions deal more hits than the A version.
Fog Skin (214A/B/C) - A couple of quick slashes. The EX version is a long auto-combo.
Name unconfirmed (63214A/B/C) - Linne makes a small jump forward and makes an overhead kick.
Cannagi/Calm Goddess (41236D) - Infinite Worth; Linne makes her sword bigger and performs a spinning attack, finishing with a pillar of light.
She also seems to have rekkas, but there's no clear info on them yet. Maybe it's that 214 move.

Carmine:
Doesn't die when his health would reach zero because of his specials. His regular throw restores some health.
Spiiin! (236A/B/C) - Drains some health and creates a spinning projectile that hangs in the air for a while. After that, it turns into a puddle of blood and may be used with other specials. By performing this move again, the puddle moves closer to the enemy. The EX version makes a bigger projectile.
Name unconfirmed (623A/B/C) - Carmine attacks with blood crystals around himself. If there are any puddles near him, the attack seems to go up.
Name unconfirmed (input unconfirmed, can be done in midair) - Shoots forward a long crystal for some health. If done in midair, the crystal falls on the ground and turns into a puddle.
Oraa! (214A/B/C) - Makes a blood crystal erupt from the ground. The EX version creates a bigger crystal, locking down the enemy in hit stun for a while.
Rise! (22A/B/C) - Lays down a blood puddle. Can be followed up by turning the puddle into a crystal that hits the enemy. The EX version makes Carmine jump and throw down a couple of puddles that immediately turn into one large crystal.
Hyahahahahaha! Suffer! (41236D) - Infinite Worth; Carmine shoots a couple of crystals that deal many slashes when they hit the opponent.
Seems like he has more setup and puddle activation options that are not covered yet.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Erkz on June 14, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
So, barring further delays, it comes out in September? (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/French-Bread/20120611/1339420162)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 15, 2012, 12:18:05 AM
Back to normalcy; Chibi Orie (http://inbirth.info/topic0043.html) released this time along with an announcement that the loketest was quite popular.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Kusanagi on June 15, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
Where's Yuzuriha !!!!! I wanna see Yuzuriha in Action damn it
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: 3IIIT on June 15, 2012, 02:46:06 PM
For me, at least, Seth is the one I most want to see.

Anyway, hopefully FB and Ecole can stick to that Sept 2012 release. If nothing else, so that hopefully after 6-8 months' worth of a successful arcade run, it will be a feasible time to start thinking about that home version! ;D

 
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on June 16, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
For me, at least, Seth is the one I most want to see.

Anyway, hopefully FB and Ecole can stick to that Sept 2012 release. If nothing else, so that hopefully after 6-8 months' worth of a successful arcade run, it will be a feasible time to start thinking about that home version! ;D
I would assume that it would be the plan. To me, it's the one that makes the most sense.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 16, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
But they haven't even decided who their seiyuus will be. That'll take some time...
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 16, 2012, 07:35:25 PM
I'm hoping that them making a blog post that they expect to be done in about 3 months means that they either have the voice acting issue sorted out already or are very close to finalizing it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on June 20, 2012, 06:56:16 AM
I'm hoping that them making a blog post that they expect to be done in about 3 months means that they either have the voice acting issue sorted out already or are very close to finalizing it.

It is wired that I am somewhat fearful of the voice acting talent?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on June 22, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
Happy Birthday, Gordeau! (http://inbirth.info/topic0044.html)
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Rowanism on June 22, 2012, 09:19:19 AM
http://basgrospoing.fr/2012/06/20/des-videos-du-location-test-de-under-night-in-birth/

Loketest videos
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on June 23, 2012, 06:27:40 AM
http://basgrospoing.fr/2012/06/20/des-videos-du-location-test-de-under-night-in-birth/

Loketest videos

I FINALLY GET TO FEAST MY EYES ON ME UNREAL BLACK THINGS.
FLIGHT AND HUGE AERIAL HITBOXES.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on June 29, 2012, 07:29:23 AM
Unreal Black Things wallpaper this time.
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Post by: Sahgren on July 12, 2012, 10:09:37 PM
Apparently (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201207/09017722.html) UNiB will be playable at Game Summer Festival 2012 on August 4th. Hopefully we'll get a decent amount of footage from it.
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Post by: ehrik on July 13, 2012, 02:43:47 AM
as usual, i miss both SBO, god garden, and now even an UNIB test :|
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Post by: caiooa on July 18, 2012, 04:01:19 AM
Is this twett relevant to unib?

なりたのぶや ‏@narita_ton
言って良いと言われたこと→「今月末に都内でロケテ」。検討中なので言うなと言われたこと→「場所・期間」。なにも言われてないので勝手に言うこと→10キャラ予定、声あり予定、2セット予定。詳細決まりましたら公式よりお知らせしますm(_ _)m
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Post by: Sahgren on July 18, 2012, 09:32:34 AM
It got retweeted by UNiB PR, so that's probably a safe bet.

Googre Tranrate says that there'll be another loketest in Tokyo at the end of the month. Then something about 10 characters, voices, and two plans.
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Post by: Komidol on July 18, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
as usual, i miss both SBO, god garden, and now even an UNIB test :|

There might be another one while you're there.  Exactly what days will you be there?  I can keep a look out for melty events for you.  Since you're in Tokyo though, better make sure you hit up Mikado every Friday night for tournament.
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Post by: Erkz on July 18, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
Is this twett relevant to unib?

なりたのぶや ‏@narita_ton
言って良いと言われたこと→「今月末に都内でロケテ」。検討中なので言うなと言われたこと→「場所・期間」。なにも言われてないので勝手に言うこと→10キャラ予定、声あり予定、2セット予定。詳細決まりましたら公式よりお知らせしますm(_ _)m

The next loctest will tentatively have 10 characters, voices and 2-set matches. Details aren't finalized, however, so they'll give further details later on.



Yay, voices!
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Post by: djenkov ver.2.0 on July 20, 2012, 01:08:02 AM
So,the arcade version will be out in sept.Did they mention some port anytime soon or we must wait another 2 years or so?
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Post by: Sahgren on July 20, 2012, 01:34:59 AM
Lots to this one~. (http://inbirth.info/topic0048.html)

There will be a loketest at Akihabra on the 30th. Seth and Yuzu will be playable and possibly voices.

Additionally, there will be a pre-release tournament at Summer Festival 2012 from 9AM to 4PM with finals hosted from 4:30PM to 5:30PM on August 5th.

Also, Yuzu birthday fanservice art! (http://inbirth.info/img/topics/12072000.jpg)
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Post by: caiooa on July 20, 2012, 06:48:21 AM
Lots to this one~. (http://inbirth.info/topic0048.html)

There will be a loketest at Akihabra on the 30th. Seth and Yuzu will be playable and possibly voices.

Additionally, there will be a pre-release tournament at Summer Festival 2012 from 9AM to 4PM with finals hosted from 4:30PM to 5:30PM on August 5th.

Also, Yuzu birthday fanservice art! (http://inbirth.info/img/topics/12072000.jpg)

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■アンダーナイト インヴァース 体験会 in ゲームサマーフェスティバル2012

エコール&フランスパンによって制作され、2012年9月20日より稼動予定の
新作オリジナル対戦格闘ゲーム、「アンダーナイト インヴァース」。
この新作をいち早くプレイできる体験会を、エンターブレイン主催の日本最大級の格闘ゲームイベント、
「闘劇」の協力を得て「ゲームサマーフェスティバル2012」にて行います。
d..d...d..did this means what i think this means??
obs: dat >◡◡◕ face. I can't separate her image from aoko and baiken.
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Post by: ehrik on July 20, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
aaaaa I'm missing all the loketest and prelease tournament stuff
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Post by: caiooa on July 27, 2012, 03:43:05 AM
mishon oba
http://inbirth.info/chr_vat.html
they added voice samples for all characters, and it looks like there will be some kind of quiz about who are the voice actors http://inbirth.info/quiz_form.html
and under request they added the movelist http://inbirth.info/img/topics/command_list.jpg
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Post by: fiendmaw on July 27, 2012, 03:53:18 AM
http://inbirth.info/topic0049.html Very cute French Bread...
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on July 27, 2012, 05:01:46 AM
Linne's so loud...
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Post by: Sashi on July 27, 2012, 05:20:48 AM
Don't like Orie's voice. Especially the third track. Ugh. Rinne sounds really... intense. Dualwield Nanaya sounds super manly. Purple Aoko is purple Aoko. Black Thing sounds like his tracks were done in some guy's basement. Red Len voice is love.

EDIT: Also, Coren is cougar bait.
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Post by: caiooa on July 27, 2012, 10:15:54 AM
first videos i find in nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18462360
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18462440
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18462499
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18462532
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18462554
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Post by: HARD_BREAD on July 27, 2012, 11:42:48 AM
In the 3rd round in the 4th video I noticed musical notes coming from Yuzuriha, is she whistling/humming or is that some kind of status effect?
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Post by: caiooa on July 27, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
it appears everytime she walk to the same side of the screen for more than 1-2 seconds. In the beggining of the 4th video, before the round even start you can already see that. So i'm assuming she is just whistling/humming
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Post by: Sahgren on July 27, 2012, 12:06:38 PM
Jourdal uploaded the videos to YouTube:
Merkava vs Seth (http://youtu.be/KG4f3bjCpVc)
Waldstein vs Seth (http://youtu.be/BkMo8Ee7qu4)
Yuzuriha vs Orie (http://youtu.be/XqDFf98O46g)
Gordeau vs Yuzuriha (http://youtu.be/6AY7nD8SmKc)
Carmine vs Yuzuriha (http://youtu.be/t9MxdDDxvtg)
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Post by: LoliSauce on July 27, 2012, 04:11:23 PM
Wow, Yuzu is Johnny without coins.
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Post by: caiooa on July 27, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
thinking the same thing lol. Put sunglasses and a hat and she would be "absolutely paaarrrfectu". But she makes me remeber Senna Kyoudou (bbb) too.
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Post by: Sahgren on July 27, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
The more I see Yuzu, the more I like her. The teleports look fun, especially since she can Mist Finer > teleport and stay in stance.

I believe I have yet to actually see anyone roll tech in the videos. The closest I've seen was during the Gordeau vs Orie at 3:00 (http://youtu.be/6AY7nD8SmKc#t=3m00s) where Yuzu does a MB-esque tech back into the corner rather than a BB roll. I'm much happier if they keep it that way.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on July 27, 2012, 07:29:00 PM
In the Merkava vs Seth, at 1:35, you can see Merkava getting punished in the air, then auto-recovering. When he lands, he then punishes Seth. This auto-recover mechanic is not to be trifled with...

Also, delayed floating homing missiles. Setups galore~
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Post by: Exciel on July 27, 2012, 09:49:28 PM
For whatever reason, the CV's I'm sure about:

Hyde - Kimura Ryohei (MC in Penguindrum, MC in Sankarea)
Orie - Saori Hayami (Haqua in TWGOK, Leia in ToX)
Vatista - Rumi Ookubo (Chinatsu in Yuru Yuri, moeblob in Acchi Kocchi [who probably had something to do with her ridiculous hair])
Yuzuriha - Ayumi Fujimura (Ibuki in SSFIV, lil sis in Kara no Kyoukai 6)


The rest I'm unsure about but Linne is probably Ayana Taketatsu who also does P4U Labrys. People have told me Waldstein is Kouji Ishii and if I had to guess I'd say Seth is Jun Fukuyama. No clue on Carmine, Gordeau and there's a lot who can do Hilda's voice (if I had to guess, Chiwa Saito (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgBOUBdf510)). I find it somehow amusing unreal black thing can speak Japanese too.
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Post by: caiooa on July 28, 2012, 03:44:56 AM
more 2 videos
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18464182 (yuzu mirror)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18464260 (seth vs yuzu)
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Post by: Sahgren on July 28, 2012, 11:26:43 AM
Jourdal uploaded the latest two to YouTube:
Seth vs Yuzuriha (http://youtu.be/6RscJ-E_LzA)
Yuzuriha Mirror (http://youtu.be/npqIY8tO93Q)
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Post by: Langley on July 28, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
Has anyone else noticed the three gems or whatever beneath Yuzuriha's portrait? They seem to glow while she's in her quick-draw stance and they're expended depending on if she teleports or what-have-you. I guess it's a resource system to prevent quick-draw stance shenanigans in combos since it seems to reset as soon as the stance ends, or after a set period of time.
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Post by: caiooa on July 28, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
I'm not sure. I guess it's probably similar to the system of johny, but instead of "coins"  for the higher level Mist Finers, she probably have to stay more time "charging" in the quick-draw stance.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on July 28, 2012, 06:19:17 PM
They're limiters like what Sion has. She can only do 3 moves in that stance, each move taking away a gem in the gauge. Some moves seem to take no gems (her teleports?) or 2 instead of 1 gem.
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Post by: LivingShadow on July 30, 2012, 05:42:27 PM
Wow, these voices. I know I recognize them but I can't put voices to names.

Edit: Just recognized Linne as Ayana Taketatsu. Anyone else agree?
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Post by: caiooa on August 05, 2012, 09:19:03 AM
if you missed the live stream of the pre launch torney at game summer festival/sbo
http://pt-br.twitch.tv/kilvear/b/327517859
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Post by: HARD_BREAD on August 05, 2012, 10:46:59 AM
Goddamn...Yuzuriha looks so solid...
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 05, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
Merkava looks absolutely insane. Fullscreen grabs.

FULLSCREEN GRABS!

Even though you can block them.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 05, 2012, 06:05:55 PM
FULLSCREEN EVERYTHING!

Fix'd.
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 05, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
FULLSCREEN EVERYTHING!

Fix'd.

Lol. Agreed.
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Post by: LoliSauce on August 05, 2012, 09:26:29 PM
Prerelease tournament at SBO (http://youtu.be/BUGLWGH7VPI) already uploaded to youtube.  It's roughly 1 hour long.  Lot of good day-0 Vati, Yuzu, Merkava, and Linne play.

No Gordeau at all though.  =<

Edit:  Oop, didn't realize a stream archive of it was already posted up.  Oh well.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 05, 2012, 10:31:19 PM
EX gauge has a halfway mark and between both characters' GRD gauges is a circular clock that resets whenever GRD Vorpal is reached.

It seems that the Auto-Recover mechanic is a disadvantage. At 11:31, Yuzuriha punishes Orie when she auto-recovers from the air by throwing her. Knowing when the game forces you to auto-recover could be a crucial part in continuing combos.

Apparently you can throw while the opponent is in blockstun. 39:37 Linne is blocking Vatista's multihit orb and got thrown out.

Also, ERRUBO~~
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Post by: HARD_BREAD on August 06, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
Also, ERRUBO~~
This * 100...Safe Jump Elbow oki  :laffo:
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 06, 2012, 12:49:25 AM
Did it cross up? I can't remember off the top of my head...
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 06, 2012, 02:23:05 AM
Crossups look so easy in this game. I thought I saw elbow crossup at least once.
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Post by: fiendmaw on August 06, 2012, 05:38:56 AM
I do distinctly remember an elbow crossup early in the video.
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Post by: caiooa on August 06, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
Also, ERRUBO~~
This * 100...Safe Jump Elbow oki  :laffo:
i remember seeing vatista flash kick cutting it.
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Post by: LoliSauce on August 06, 2012, 02:21:22 PM
It seems that the Auto-Recover mechanic is a disadvantage. At 11:31, Yuzuriha punishes Orie when she auto-recovers from the air by throwing her. Knowing when the game forces you to auto-recover could be a crucial part in continuing combos.
The Orie player could have throw teched that.  There was another player who did later.  It's just a gimmick.

Same with when you're locked down in blockstun and get thrown.  When Vati threw the ex fireball down on Linne and jumped over to go for the throw, she teched the throw and the fireball just passed right through them during the invincibility.  From what I saw in that video, throw tech looked safe as fuck and there might not even be any restriction on doing it (such as counterhit throws in bb).
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Post by: F9|Chibi on August 06, 2012, 04:12:54 PM
Game is looking pretty great.

Anyone here want to help me in seeing if the guys at French Bread would be crazy enough to come to NEC with UNiB?

Anyone~?
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 06, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
Depends on the kind of help you need.
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Post by: AARP|ZTB on August 06, 2012, 05:50:34 PM
Depends on the kind of help you need.
going to assume he means : I don't speak a lick of Japanese and someone needs to go in or find someone to go in on eng > jp translations to send out an invite/proposal. . .

Anyway, incoming #opinions

...this game looks lame as fuck (and not "good lame" either) and I'm not at all impressed w/ the character designs (NOT CHARACTER AESTHETICS, I'm mean the mechanics overall). With the exception of the puddle dude, who isn't even all that interesting to begin with, characters look bland, boring and uninspired.

Linne = zantetsu (LB2)/ryougi clone, Hyde = Setsuna (LB2) clone, Vatista = fake ass Mu (BB), Yuzuriha = Senna clone (Big Bang), valdstein = pot/tager clone. And inb4 You = Hater.

Looking pretty pathetic in its current build. Hoping these dudes step it up cus dropping MB to work on this. . .They better put in overtime.

$0.02
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 06, 2012, 06:02:27 PM
I personally disagree on certain points, but I suppose you're entitled to not like it.

I can say that I've seen variations of these fighting styles before, but to be honest, I like this particular implementation of them. There's just enough divergence from the base style that I consider the game to be worth a shot.
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 06, 2012, 06:28:29 PM
The Orie player could have throw teched that.  There was another player who did later.  It's just a gimmick.

Same with when you're locked down in blockstun and get thrown.  When Vati threw the ex fireball down on Linne and jumped over to go for the throw, she teched the throw and the fireball just passed right through them during the invincibility.  From what I saw in that video, throw tech looked safe as fuck and there might not even be any restriction on doing it (such as counterhit throws in bb).

I always forget the existence of throw techs because of its absence back in MBAC >.<
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Post by: Inso on August 06, 2012, 10:16:30 PM
I'm kinda with Zar on this one, the game looks good yet feels unappealing, but despite character design weighting a lot on my decision to give a game a chance or not, I think originality is a relative concept and somehow overated, quality-wise in the end it doesnt matter who invented something but who perfected it. That said, even thou Yuzuriha got my attention a little I probably wouldnt touch the game anyway if it werent made by you know who.
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Post by: Forte Wily on August 19, 2012, 02:08:38 PM

Anyway, incoming #opinions

...this game looks lame as fuck (and not "good lame" either) and I'm not at all impressed w/ the character designs (NOT CHARACTER AESTHETICS, I'm mean the mechanics overall). With the exception of the puddle dude, who isn't even all that interesting to begin with, characters look bland, boring and uninspired.

Well, that is something that I doubt that they can change at this point. Since the last two loctests, I think that they have locked in on the character designs. I will agree with this...They don't stand out for the most part, the characters designs as slick as they are.... are very by-the-numbers, stock anime-like designs.  I think that other elements outside of look will turnout to the define the characters, it's really the only other option that they have.

And keep in mind that, French Bread is still very small last that I checked. So it may also be a matter of resources. How many employees are at FB anyway?


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Looking pretty pathetic in its current build. Hoping these dudes step it up cus dropping MB to work on this. . .They better put in overtime.
Frankly, with Melty Blood... French Bread got extremely lucky. For them, the characters where already defined, established and made, all they needed to do was adapt the play-styles and make the sprites. That and Type-Moon didn't say "no" (or "sue") when they asked for more resources/data on the characters. Which is why I am watching this develop honestly, French Bread as proven that they can make a fighter with help... Now can they do that without the safety net that Type-Moon provided them with?
So far, I would say, yes... but we'll have to see the end product to be sure.  The gameplay seems, interesting for the most part... and it's the thing that most concerns me.
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Post by: Shinigami-hime on August 19, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
If UNIB comes out in America I will buy it.
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Post by: FireBearHero on August 20, 2012, 10:33:56 AM
The sound effects are STILL so fucking AWFUL.  :emo:
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Post by: Sahgren on August 24, 2012, 12:36:13 AM
Pretty massive update (http://www.youtube.com/user/UNIBmovie?feature=g-u-u) to the official UNiB YouTube channel.
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 24, 2012, 02:33:09 AM
I am now 90% sure of who's voicing Linne. Going to go through all that footage when I get back from work.
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Post by: caiooa on August 24, 2012, 06:21:52 AM
there was a stream going on with fb guys...
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E5%B7%A5%E5%A0%B4%E8%A3%8Ftv
edit: they changed the screenshots in the unib site too. Some are exactly the same scene, but with different effects.
example
old version http://www.mediafire.com/conv/186110411ac4bc62046eb093449e205dc8ef40b0ee31ca926a5a6e1d82e338a36g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/conv/186110411ac4bc62046eb093449e205dc8ef40b0ee31ca926a5a6e1d82e338a36g.jpg)
new versionhttp://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_hyd03.jpg (http://inbirth.info/img/chara/ss_hyd03.jpg)
edit2: the comandlist is in each character profile in the site too =)
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Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 24, 2012, 06:23:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMMEP5s7Jg4&feature=plcp

What the hell happened at 4:40? Bunker?
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Post by: s4itox on August 24, 2012, 06:56:43 AM
So uh, apparently MitsuruOrie has a persona. Awesome.
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Post by: LoliSauce on August 25, 2012, 12:06:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMMEP5s7Jg4&feature=plcp

What the hell happened at 4:40? Bunker?
Activation probably just has some invul frames.

Man, so happy with how Gordeau is looking right now.  He's playing right into the style I wanted. 

So far, Carmaine looks fragile as hell, with how much life is drained from each special usage.  Orie also has some seriously gimped damage, though she has a lot of good pokes.  Otherwise, everyone is looking pretty good.  I'm glad they gave Wald some more damage and easier confirms.  Yuzu is probably a little too good, but we'll see. 

Also, somehow I never really noticed how slow/awkward Merkava's movement is, and how weird his pressure is compared to the rest of the cast.  It's like he's the Nero of the game, meaning that he sort of plays at his own pace apart from the rest of the cast.

Also, might as well share this pastebin of my observations (http://pastebin.com/50pxV4xi) while I was watching the videos.  It's a little too long to just paste into here (apparently 114 lines, yikes).
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Post by: Sahgren on August 25, 2012, 01:05:07 AM
Seth's orb pressure looks like you can do hilariously lulzy crap if you can scare your opponent into respecting it. Dude is flying all over the place and still locking them down.

It really looks like they smoothed things out for a lot of the characters since their first introduction videos. The new effects aren't bad either.
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Post by: caiooa on August 25, 2012, 05:27:56 AM
it will be in arcadia front page
http://www.arcadiamagazine.com/cgi-bin/news_view.cgi?id=417
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on August 26, 2012, 04:11:02 AM
I think they actually slowed Merkava down since the Tougeki build. I remember the full screen grab being tighter when blocked.

However, SETH. Seth looks like so much fun to play. I might actually end up using him over Linne.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: BurstOfAnger on August 26, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
I think they actually slowed Merkava down since the Tougeki build. I remember the full screen grab being tighter when blocked.

However, SETH. Seth looks like so much fun to play. I might actually end up using him over Linne.

I find that they nerfed Seth's fireballs. They hit very inconsistently now, something I don't like very much. His dash-in-teleports look fun and all, but I'm confused about how much of a mindgame it really brings in a real match...
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Post by: LoliSauce on August 26, 2012, 10:40:30 AM
Yeah, the fireballs are either slower or they changed the tracking, because they were getting avoided pretty easily.  Also take into account that they aren't persistent (Yuzu was just cutting him through the fireballs and they'd disappear), so it kind of encourages disrespect.  Dude has an absurd amount of mobility though, and that dashing cut has crazy hitstun.

Anyway, it seems like the meter hop thing is going to be really important, because people are pulling ambiguous crossups with it all day in those new videos.
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 26, 2012, 03:44:31 PM
I think Seth is going to play like a mix between Aoko and Ryougi. As much as everyone is comparing Linne to Ryougi, she plays nothing like her.
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Post by: LivingShadow on August 26, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Those crossup combos are basically part of Ryougi's BnB, but otherwise I agree. Crossup orb/shots look like so much fun.

Edit: Also, calling Seth as Mamoru Miyano. Just listen to Setsuna from 00.
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Post by: Forte Wily on August 27, 2012, 10:44:22 PM
Given the way that this game is shaping up. I wonder if there is any US plans at all?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LoliSauce on August 28, 2012, 01:40:38 AM
I doubt they actually have international plans yet, but at least they know people are interested and they don't have type-moon standing over them, limiting anything that they may want to do.  Best thing we can hope for is just that the game succeeds in making them boatloads of money so they have the capital to give it a shot.
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Post by: Forte Wily on August 29, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
I doubt they actually have international plans yet,
We'll have to see but being honest... I would but shocked if they have not begun to shop the game around somewhat. And if I remember, around the days of AH3's pre-release. Atlus has expressed interest in the FB's work (namely Melty).

It's a damn shame that these things are likely closely guarded and closed discussions. Oh to be a fly on that wall.

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Best thing we can hope for is just that the game succeeds in making them boatloads of money so they have the capital to give it a shot.
Here is the thing, I don't think that even having a "boatload of money" would help in that regard. The face of localizing has changed, it would require a lot more work than simply translating the text and printing the disk. They have become something of a production themselves, which demands an experienced hand.

Once they give it a shot, that opens up a host of challenges.  Most of which, FB isn't use to. I hope that they do it honestly, but I can't be blind to the fact that they are a new minno in shark infested waters.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Sahgren on August 30, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
The names of the voice actors were announced:

Quote from: SolxBaiken
VAs were announced in that issue of Arcadia:

Hyde: Kimura Ryouhei
Linne: Sakura Ayane
Waldstein: Ishii Kouji
Carmine: Kondou Takashi
Orie: Hayami Saori
Gordeau: Toriumi Kousuke
Merkava: Kiuchi Hidenobu
Vatista: Touyama Nao
Seth: Kaji Yuuki
Yuzuriha: Fujimura Ayumi
Hilda: Takada Hatsumi
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: caiooa on August 31, 2012, 02:43:51 AM
they added the section "system"
http://inbirth.info/system.html
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: LivingShadow on August 31, 2012, 11:36:35 AM
Is that another super I see? And if I'm not mistaken they put in a persona style auto-combo.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 01, 2012, 09:14:37 AM
You know, after watching the Seth video one too many times (loving that BGM)... I noticed something at the end of the trailer.
The platform changed... again.... WHAT is the RigeEdge2?
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Shinigami-hime on September 01, 2012, 10:44:57 AM
Seth's theme is awesome along with Gordeau and RingEdge 2 thingy-it's like a PC but made into a console if I'm correct. A lot of people say it's total crap so even if it was sold in America I wouldn't buy it.
Title: Re: So apparently that game French Bread were making...
Post by: Forte Wily on September 01, 2012, 03:45:29 PM
RingEdge 2 thingy-it's like a PC but made into a console if I'm correct. A lot of people say it's total crap...


Well, I am not sure that there are any opinions on the hardware at this moment since we have yet to see production models of the line. So anything said at this moment comes with a gain of salt in regards to performance and network infrastructure. Also keep in mind that the only other game announced for this board is ASW's Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R, so I would expect impressions to be based on GG's under-performing on the hardware. Whatever those spec's those might be.

The Ring-series (Ringwave and RingEdge 1) continues with Sega using off-the-shelf parts for it's hardware. Something that is rather likely with RingEdge 2 to continue with. And to be honest, Sega is far from the only one, Tatio's Type X2 and Type X3 also use commodity hardware.

I was searching for information, both the RingEdge 2 and Type X3 are new to me. And the change of platform for UNIB was rather unexpected. And it turns out that a lot isn't known about the RingEdge 2... Was wondering if it was just me lost in the lack of info on the board. Apparently, I am not.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Rowanism on September 01, 2012, 05:09:16 PM
*dickhead topic title change mode*
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: UNREAL BLACK THING on September 01, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
*smart topic title change mode*
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Forte Wily on September 02, 2012, 03:16:07 PM
*dickhead topic title change mode*

That took long enough.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 03, 2012, 10:36:51 AM
Someone posted a translation of the System page on this site (http://beastnote.blogspot.co.il/2012/09/under-night-inbirth-how-to-play.html?spref=tw).

Quote from: Hectom on Dustloop
The System page has been added to the official website of Under Night: In-Birth yesterday. The very good news is not only it has no comeback mechanics, it also rewards better players big bonus.

Here is our summary.

There are only 2 gauges that you have to pay attention to, EXS and GRD. This game really requires strategy as both of them can fill each other.

EXS (pronounced Exis)
- It is on the bottom left or right of the screen.
- This is similar to SF4's Super Combo gauge.
- Full gauge is EXS 200%. Half gauge is EXS 100%.
- It is used for EX version of special moves. EXS 100%+ is required.
- By pressing A+B+C at EXS 100%+, the character will enter Veil Off state. In this state, you can use EXS moves as much as you want in limited time until the gauge depletes to 0%. (Veil Off consumes all of your EXS.)
- Veil Off activation moment also works as "Burst" which pushes opponent away even under hit-stun.
- In Veil Off state, you will also get GRD bonus from actions.
- Ultimate moves called Infinite Verse will be usable at EXS 200% or in Veil Off state.
- Ultimate moves called Infinite Verse EXST will be usable only at EXS 200% and while opponent has 30% life or below, and you must use between a combo while having max Veil Off. This is instant death move.

GRD (Grind Grid)
- It is on the bottom center of the screen.
- Your GRD will increase if you are in a good situation, and decrease during a bad situation.
- GRD Vorpal is activated each time after the circle is filled with light. If your GRD is more than opponent at the moment, the circle will turn into your color (red or blue) and you get the benefits. The circle will then be reset again after it is filled. There is a chance that the circle will always be your color if you can maintain the momentum. If both players have the same GRD when the circle is filled, the circle will turn white and no one gets the benefits.
- In GRD Vorpal state, you do extra damage.
- In GRD Vorpal state, by pressing D twice, you can convert all of your GRD into EXS gauge. This action is called Chain Shift. Moreover, Chain Shift will cancel the ongoing animations, returning you to neutral again so you can continue a combo or use it for frame trap. The GRD circle will turn white after using it.
- You can boost your GRD by holding D. It can also decrease opponent's GRD. This action (called Concentration) consumes EXS.
- You will get GRD bonus when blocking an attack using Shield. But if you get hit while using Shield, GRD Break will occur. GRD Break will reset your GRD.
- Shield (press D while blocking) requires some EXS (around 20%). If successful, you will gain a lot of momentum in GRD.

Other features
- There are 4 buttons: A (light attack), B (medium), C (strong), D (EXS Action).
- There is something similar to P4U's Auto Combo, called Smart Steer. You get a combo by pressing A>A>A>A.
- Assault (forward + D) works like hop (for hop attack), midair is possible.

Looks like Chain Shift can now only be done if you're in GRD Vorpal. I like that a bit better than the "Mash Chain Shift whenever you have GRD available" that they had before.

There's also an Astral-esque version of the Infinite Worth (now called Infinite Verse) called Infinite Verse EXST that you can combo into when they're below 30% health.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Shinigami-hime on September 03, 2012, 11:06:50 AM
Yep...this game sounds complicated  :gonk:
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: HARD_BREAD on September 03, 2012, 02:26:56 PM
I'm liking the sound of the system. It sounds like it will make match-ups more interesting outside of what the characters can do on their own without regard for the meters.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Forte Wily on September 05, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: Hectom on Dustloop
- Ultimate moves called Infinite Verse EXST will be usable only at EXS 200% and while opponent has 30% life or below, and you must use between a combo while having max Veil Off. This is instant death move.

There's also an Astral-esque version of the Infinite Worth (now called Infinite Verse) called Infinite Verse EXST that you can combo into when they're below 30% health.


GOD, THIS AGAIN!!!!!  >:(

So not happy about that bit of news. I know that they are after that "Hateful BlazBlue"... but this is something that I was hoping that they would avoid like the plague. Guess not.
Excuse me as I scream at the moon and rip out my hair.

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- Assault (forward + D) works like hop (for hop attack), midair is possible.
Ok, I was wondering if I was looking at something similar to Hyper Hop with that. I guess I was right, that is good since I was liking the sound of it.

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GRD (Grind Grid)
- Your GRD will increase if you are in a good situation, and decrease during a bad situation.
Ok, that is vague. Good in how... attacking, defending, positioning, etc.?


Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on September 05, 2012, 02:03:57 PM
Still liking what they have here. Even with the similarities to other games, there are enough new and interesting mechanics to work with.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Forte Wily on September 06, 2012, 03:32:43 AM
So wait, what caused the shield to break?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 06, 2012, 06:50:12 AM
So wait, what caused the shield to break?
Incorrect shielding (high/low) results in a break.  There's a ton of hitstun too, so it's pretty free for the opponent to capitalize on.  It happens in a couple videos.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on September 14, 2012, 03:29:58 AM
Catchy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnx_Q4tHDag)

I like the cut-in things. They're like Melty's but better.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 14, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
Oh man, I wish the actual ex/super cut-ins were animated like that.  It'd be so hype.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on September 14, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
Aren't the infinite worth/verse things' cut-ins animated like that? I remember seeing some of those animations before.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 14, 2012, 06:22:07 PM
Aren't the infinite worth/verse things' cut-ins animated like that? I remember seeing some of those animations before.
I don't remember at all.  You're probably right. (I certainly hope you are)
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 14, 2012, 08:12:27 PM
Yeah, those are the cut-ins for the Infinite Worths/Verses.

I wonder if Hilda will be playable if they make a PC/console port or if she'll stay boss only.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: F9|Chibi on September 15, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
GIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMME HILDA~
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: HARD_BREAD on September 20, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
Sooooooo.....anyone catch the release stream?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Komidol on September 21, 2012, 04:37:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA2idM-Pz0w Sure did, lots of Vatista/Yuzuriha being played.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 21, 2012, 07:42:08 AM
It looks like we'll be getting even more footage soon; French Bread is hosting a tournament + talk with the devs this Saturday (http://inbirth.info/topic0058.html).
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 21, 2012, 03:12:37 PM
I wish they would just take OTG out of this game.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: BurstOfAnger on September 22, 2012, 06:46:53 AM
The pushback from Shielding doesn't seem relevant at all, especially in the corner where it's supposed to matter most. What with all the long range moves, multi-hit moves and moves with forward momentum. Not to mention that ERUBO.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 23, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
Dem instant kills~. Courtesy of Abelcru.

Quote from: Abelcru
Here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACMa5-y--g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACMa5-y--g)

All in one video XD

More footage, including boss mode Hilda, courtesy of Digital Masta:

Quote from: Digital Masta
http://tinyurl.com/cdf4rxu Hilda...the bitch teleports it looks like.

EDIT2:

Orie vs Seth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1oo...ature=youtu.be

Seth's mixup options are pretty insane.

Gordeau vs Seth I

http://youtu.be/MtiFVVZMVeo

Gordeau vs Seth II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYyz...ature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on September 23, 2012, 04:01:32 PM
I am completely sold on Seth. 100% maining him in this game.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 23, 2012, 04:08:53 PM
Hooray for wikis (http://www18.atwiki.jp/un_inbirth/)!

Quote from: HagakureStyle
Pardon the double post, but I stumbled upon this wiki for UNIB. Wiki (http://www18.atwiki.jp/un_inbirth/) Has this been posted before? It has info on the character's moveset, combos and such.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: BurstOfAnger on September 24, 2012, 06:23:20 AM
I'm impressed with Orie. When I first saw her, I was thinking "How the hell do you combo with her?". And seeing footage of her now, she seems really versatile and all-rounded.

I don't get how the instant kills are executed. You veil-off when your opponent has the right amount of life left and it's automatically executed?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Cristu on September 24, 2012, 12:38:07 PM
It looks like we'll be getting even more footage soon; French Bread is hosting a tournament + talk with the devs this Saturday (http://inbirth.info/topic0058.html).
Who won? I've heard some big figures like Denpa and Kubo are playing. This got me hype...
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 24, 2012, 12:56:52 PM
Results of the tourney, courtesy of Komidol:

Quote from: Komidol
The winner of the Club Sega tournament held by French Bread (the game's developers) to commemorate the release of Under Night In-Birth has concluded.  The winner, in a 2-1 victory, was Jin!  Jin was using Hyde throughout the tournament. 



Amongst the fighting game community in Tokyo, Jin is a very well-known player, most renowned for his play with Hisui in Melty Blood. Within the top 8, other veteran players such as Reteru and Yume placed as well.

Also, someone figured out a 36 second long combo (http://youtu.be/xt-UIIRaKX8) on Linne. It seems to cap out at 4.8k damage, but that could be freakishly annoying to get caught in if they just want to run down the clock.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 24, 2012, 10:21:31 PM
Double post~

Courtesy of Jourdal:
Quote from: Jourdal
Game Chariot Tournament
http://youtu.be/TIwecPSzBbQ (http://youtu.be/TIwecPSzBbQ)

Casuals
http://youtu.be/u1z2nGlcYFY (http://youtu.be/u1z2nGlcYFY)

Kaqn Yuzu VS Wataru Orie
http://youtu.be/hYvVcpgj6KY (http://youtu.be/hYvVcpgj6KY)
http://youtu.be/qnl9irAkv8Q (http://youtu.be/qnl9irAkv8Q)

Merukamyu-Sensei ( Merkava ) VS Jakku (Seth)
http://youtu.be/XryWAUwk7tk
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Rowanism on September 25, 2012, 02:26:35 AM
DAT LINNE COSPLAYER HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on September 25, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
So far, it seems they're working mostly on extending combos over finding oki options. I saw lost chances to drop orbs all over the place with the Seth players.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: HARD_BREAD on September 26, 2012, 06:53:38 PM
So far, it seems they're working mostly on extending combos over finding oki options. I saw lost chances to drop orbs all over the place with the Seth players.
Yeah I agree; a lot of the matches so far just seem like combo practice. Anyways...Unreal Black Combos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL8-ysH2MGk&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 27, 2012, 12:49:13 PM
These combos are getting bb stupid.  I'm not okay with this.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: HARD_BREAD on September 29, 2012, 10:10:04 AM
They look like Skull Girls combos to me  :laffo:
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Martee Blood on September 29, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
I'm a little disappointed. I'll play it, I guess.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sashi on September 29, 2012, 04:37:22 PM
Dead game.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Rowanism on September 29, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
Dead game.
Is that so?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Martee Blood on September 29, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it were.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Eirei_Koori on September 29, 2012, 09:28:01 PM
09/23 Game Chariot
Kaqn(Yu) vs Johnny (Li)
http://youtu.be/WEUX4hJh8oI

Kaqn (Yu) vs Wataru (Or)
http://youtu.be/WRA9fF0-Ah4

Fango (Gordeau) Matches
http://youtu.be/-bExbVA9ZlQ

Johnny (Linne) vs Wataru (Orie)
http://youtu.be/P4qhTZKRVGY

UFO tournament matches
http://youtu.be/cnbszXoNsak
http://youtu.be/SEYgpq3TI9M
http://youtu.be/4766R9iYYIs
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on September 30, 2012, 03:12:16 AM
Way too early to call it dead, it's been out less than a month.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: caiooa on September 30, 2012, 08:29:29 AM
??????
http://p.twipple.jp/d5TKu
http://via.me/-5lbsnvm
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on September 30, 2012, 09:49:14 AM
Woah, Sion.

Or maybe just a character based on her? lol "Eltnum"

Hmm. Wonder what that's about.

EDIT -

Well then. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19018934) Guessing this is just... a thing? Like Saber in Nitro Royale?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: caiooa on September 30, 2012, 10:06:21 AM
isn't eltnum a result of a different romanization system?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on September 30, 2012, 10:11:42 AM
It is, yeah. But I don't see why FB would randomly switch romanizations... Not that it matters, lol.

Also dat Last Arc.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on September 30, 2012, 11:37:03 AM
Yeah, that's definitely Sion. And now that I think of it, wasn't Sion a character made specifically for Melty and thus has no official type moon ties?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: 3IIIT on September 30, 2012, 12:02:47 PM
Yeah, that's definitely Sion. And now that I think of it, wasn't Sion a character made specifically for Melty and thus has no official type moon ties?

More or less how I've heard it. She's basically FB's original creation, so they can do whatever they want with her.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: F9|Chibi on September 30, 2012, 04:17:14 PM
Well unlike BB (but like SG) the combos actually look realllllllllllllllllllllly fun.

I'm for it, though I would prefer they not be as long.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Shinigami-hime on September 30, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
I like their version of Sion but it's so weird with the different seiyu and that special attack that takes years to attack her opponent.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Martee Blood on September 30, 2012, 07:34:58 PM
I'm a little mad at myself for getting so excited over Sion's addition.
I think she's better in Melty, but cameos and the like always excite me.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on September 30, 2012, 09:07:09 PM
The only thing I'm excited for is the announcement that fb is going to be making major system changes to the game.

Hopefully they tighten this garbage up.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on September 30, 2012, 10:34:39 PM
The only thing I'm excited for is the announcement that fb is going to be making major system changes to the game.

Hopefully they tighten this garbage up.

From what I know, they're throwing out patch 1.01 to nerf into the ground fix Chain Shifting this Thursday.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: WYVERN LORD on October 01, 2012, 12:07:31 PM
Well unlike BB (but like SG) the combos actually look realllllllllllllllllllllly fun.
lol one of my first thoughts after I started watching videos last week was "oh no! these look like skullgirls combos!"
I'm mostly fine with combo damage right now (though that will probably change as more powerful stuff comes to light), I'd just like them to be slightly more concise

anyway I'm not super-thrilled with everything I'm seeing but I don't think this game looks nearly as terrible as everyone is making it out to be,  some things look super-fun actually

and what's the big problem with chain-shifting? I've watched a good number of videos and I'm not sure what is so broken about it
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on October 01, 2012, 01:16:17 PM
I think it's the amount of meter they gain back. You get quite a bit if you have a decent amount of grd.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: F9|Chibi on October 01, 2012, 02:08:09 PM
Everyone's sort of Yun / Genei-Jin at this point. Each combo is long enough that it builds the meter to get the cancel to continue the combo to build just close enough that you need to him them again and start all over.

Basically right now it's:

Combos!

+ Easy to do.
+ Fun.
+ Almost ends with potential for oki.

- Takes a chunk of time to do.
- Doesn't really do all that much damage.
- Builds enough meter to get a cancel to prolong the combo further.

They could make the combos build less meter, do more damage, or only allow you to cancel once a match something.

I honestly have no problem with it :P
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on October 01, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
There's also the problem with Chain Shifting in that some characters, *cough*Linne*cough*, can keep the combo going long enough that they can get off multiple Chain Shifts per combo. Combine that with a lack of hitstun deterioration and you get people figuring out infinite loops to burn 80 seconds off the clock.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: caiooa on October 02, 2012, 12:52:35 AM
no, combine it with unlimited otg relaunch. If she have done one after every dive, she have used 11 otg relaunchs in this 80s combo.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Mengjun on October 02, 2012, 01:58:43 AM
Well, from what I can tell, hitstun deterioration and OTG limit (2 relaunches usually) seems to be reset with each Chain Shift. Maybe that's what they are fixing?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: caiooa on October 02, 2012, 05:17:12 AM
No, it's not reseted. This game don't have otg relaunch limit. See merkava doing it 5 times in a row without chain shift.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sashi on October 02, 2012, 01:14:34 PM
Unreal Dumb Shit.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Shinigami-hime on October 05, 2012, 11:26:28 AM
My life is complete, now I just have to wait for the real version :prinny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkqFrRf6yI&feature=g-all-lik
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Team_Purple on October 05, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY
PUT RINGEDGE 2 ON A BOAT
WARNING SHOTS AND 623B AND 214B
INJECT CUTTING SYNC DIRECTLY INTO MY BLOODSTREAM
YES
YES
YES
FUCKING YES
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Erkz on October 05, 2012, 03:46:53 PM
Eltnum character page. (http://inbirth.info/chr_elt.html)

I like how her bio mentions that she looks like someone that survived being in a certain town that was under the evil influence of a vampire that was called "personification of rumors" and because of that various rumors have been going around.

Also her 'specs' match TM Sion's to the letter.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Frost on October 06, 2012, 07:30:28 AM
I really like her new design, looks like an improvement to her MB design(to me anyway). .

Also why are soo many of the female cast wearing high heels, the only character I think it makes sense on is Hilda.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: caiooa on October 06, 2012, 08:27:45 AM
http://inbirth.info/topic0062.html (it have a voice record)
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Rowanism on October 06, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
I really like her new design, looks like an improvement to her MB design(to me anyway). .
The FUCK
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on October 06, 2012, 03:33:51 PM
I really like her new design, looks like an improvement to her MB design(to me anyway). .
The FUCK
Lol.  Well tbh, her outfit is different.  New shirt, jacket, shoes, skirt and stockings are color swapped, neckerchief is under the shirt, glove on one hand, etc.  A lot of small differences.  I didn't notice any of them besides the skirt/stocking swap until I actually compared her picture from the mbaa profile to the unib one.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: F9|Chibi on October 06, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
Meh they gave her a jacket and a sweater, it's hardly different.

Also I swear I NEVER see any Vatista vids.

She must be ass.

GO FIGURE
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on October 06, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
Meh they gave her a jacket and a sweater, it's hardly different.

Also I swear I NEVER see any Vatista vids.

She must be ass.

GO FIGURE

I dunno, this Vatista (http://youtu.be/NgWsJJ-3kH8#t=5m55s) seems to be doing pretty well for herself. Gem explosion oki/pressure looks vicious.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Martee Blood on October 07, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
I figured she was just unpopular.
Every vatista match I saw was great.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Sahgren on October 07, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
Courtesy of Koori on Dustloop:
Quote from: Koori
10/8 Yokohama
http://youtu.be/lOsWFqUmfig (http://youtu.be/lOsWFqUmfig)

10/6 Athena Nihonbashi UNI Random2on2
B-block qualifiers
http://youtu.be/5ZXNGOHdT7Y (http://youtu.be/5ZXNGOHdT7Y)

C-Block qualifiers
http://youtu.be/ZmxuJwH8h0Q (http://youtu.be/ZmxuJwH8h0Q)

D-Block qualifiers
http://youtu.be/wIixiBDxc8A (http://youtu.be/wIixiBDxc8A)

Semifinals
http://youtu.be/_NEDeXJ-c8M (http://youtu.be/_NEDeXJ-c8M)

3rd place and finals
http://youtu.be/gPlrVDC-ahQ (http://youtu.be/gPlrVDC-ahQ)

Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LivingShadow on October 07, 2012, 04:59:58 PM
Seth is hype to watch.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: HARD_BREAD on October 08, 2012, 11:22:48 AM
Eltnum character page. (http://inbirth.info/chr_elt.html)

Dem thighs...Is she in the patched version?
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Eirei_Koori on October 08, 2012, 01:54:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8dbJy8BY7c

Merkava for top tier
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: LoliSauce on October 08, 2012, 05:50:32 PM
Momentum just feels too strong right now.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Forte Wily on October 09, 2012, 08:25:13 AM
Momentum just feels too strong right now.
Really? How so?

I figured she was just unpopular.
Every vatista match I saw was great.
I was thinking that myself, but then I have zero interest in playing Vatista... too much zoning for me to really be interested.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: KImre on October 10, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
I figured she was just unpopular.
Every vatista match I saw was great.

People need to play with her more times.She is like vanilla Len on steroids.5 kind of zoning tool,high dmg,jC? is like Len's 2C.
Though i'm might be wrong since these are just videos and compared to the roster she might be in a good spot.
Title: Re: Under Night In-Birth
Post by: Dipstick on October 12, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
Please break out discussion out of this thread into their own posts in this forum.

Videos and whatnot even have their own forum. (http://www.meltybread.com/forums/unib-videos-and-streams/)