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[MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« on: August 09, 2010, 05:56:41 PM »
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Wara -

C-Wara:
BE2C - Shorter recovery
BE6C - Start up faster, recovery shorter
421ABC - Start up faster, recovery shorter

F-Wara:
BE6C - Stronger
5C - Gap shortened
JC - Start up faster
5B - Stronger
236AB - EX Cancellable
214ABC - EX Cancellable
66 - Stronger

H-Wara:
J236B - Prorate Stronger
5A6A - Prorate Stronger


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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 06:01:32 PM »
First of all, I love the C-wara changes, makes his teleports more useful, for more practical teleport mixups

The improvement to 2[c] was greeeeeeeeat cause it was a useless move otherwise, now we have a AA that moves at a pretty good angle imo, and the improved startup to 6[c] is a little uncessary but its going to make the  6{c} > 2a, 6[c] etc stuff more of a bitch to block now :>

F-wara has some Ok changes, wish 623 (ground pinwheel) was improved....these changes just make him better at what he's already doing (which is already good enough imo), lack of heat / reversal hurts...

lolllllllll h-wara, why does ecole hate you so much?

tl;dr : ecole hates every wara except for c-wara
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 06:20:04 PM »
this is kind of weird, because i'd been hearing rumors from moscow (the fmaids player) that hwara was god tier and blowing shit up all over the place

guess he was just bullshitting us lol
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 07:24:06 PM »
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12350184 18:20ish, they weren't kidding when they said they buffed teleports

shit should be a crime
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 10:46:45 PM »
I like F-Wara changes. EX-Cancellable 236 and 214 makes for interesting setups. And IMO F-Wara's all about setups...
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 05:54:01 PM »
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12350184 18:20ish, they weren't kidding when they said they buffed teleports

shit should be a crime
yeah that shit's just silly, teleport dash in throw WHAT???

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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 10:28:49 AM »
Does anyone have the list of changes for the new version?

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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 10:35:42 AM »
I don't think they changed anything major about him, he looks like he plays largely the same, they might have buffed the recovery on his backdash...
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 10:37:38 AM »
Do any of his moves do cool otg relaunches?

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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 10:39:02 AM »
I haven't seen any
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 08:30:42 PM »
Played some CC wara today, plays exactly the same, although the 2[c] is much more useful now for controlling space
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 04:01:50 PM »
lolllllllll h-wara, why does ecole hate you so much?

Ppl talking
xxxx: mmk guys, we've gotta rebalance the game. let's see, c-walachia...
zzzzzzz: this character is sweet dude, lets buff him
bb: yea!
ccc: yeah!!!
jjjjjjjjjjjj: buff buff :3

xxxx: mmk, this one is gonna be buffed. what about f-walachia?
zzzzzzz: coolest moon ever
bb: yea! I say lots of buff
ccc: yeah!!!
jjjjjjjjjjjj: buff buff :3

xxxx: mmk, buffs and buffs. what about h-walachia?
zzzzzzz: what!? fuck this char dude :S
bb: yea! this char sux
ccc: yeah!!!
jjjjjjjjjjjj: nerf nerf x(
« Last Edit: July 25, 2011, 04:03:34 PM by Cristu »
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 06:41:13 PM »
H-NAC has unblockable.  He doesn't need to be buffed.
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 01:12:58 AM »
Played some CC wara today, plays exactly the same, although the 2[c] is much more useful now for controlling space
well thats no fun ;_;

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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 05:11:05 AM »
EDIT: Scratch that, I rewatched the vid I was referencing for OTG relaunch for wara, he actually teched into the tornado. My bad.

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« Last Edit: August 13, 2011, 05:31:19 AM by Irysa »
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 05:29:23 PM »
1.07 Changes:
-5c now chargable
-Apparently has OTG relaunch combos now?
-According to Komidol talking to Taka, not that many changes to Fwara/hwara
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 06:25:27 PM »
Whats the point of 5[c]. I know it wallslams but he doesn't have much options other than 2c , 6c and arcdrive. Maybe if it hits overhead or something it would be maybe useful.

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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 06:42:52 PM »
Yeah I didn't understand either, maybe its the OTG relaunch tool Komidol was talking about
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2011, 03:48:48 PM »
maybe it's +frames raw or something


then again, c wara 5c is already +frames....

more +frames after a throw kd to meaty the last hit?

gcrush damage?
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2011, 09:54:09 PM »
1.07 came out today, so lets hope for some cool changes to pop up  8-)
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2011, 09:57:02 PM »
Whats the point of 5[c]. I know it wallslams but he doesn't have much options other than 2c , 6c and arcdrive. Maybe if it hits overhead or something it would be maybe useful.

If it wall slams you pretty much do any move you want if it hits in the corner right?  Well, maybe that in on itself isn't too useful, but if you use 2C after, it's untechable knockdown.  Which means you can relaunch.  It probably does a bit more damage too. 

I don't consider myself someone who knows a lot about Wara by anymeans, but Taka seemed like he was having tons of fun with a bunch of different combo confirms.  Who knows, maybe you'll get some new corner combos.  No sense in complaining you get a new move. 
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2011, 03:29:58 AM »
Maybe it's overhead.
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2011, 08:24:02 PM »
from todays vids, seems to move him forward a HELL OF A LOT during the move, but then he retreats during the animation.
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2011, 08:47:46 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2m4jeHkLA&feature=youtu.be&t=5m43s

Taka demonstrating it

new combo: blah > 236c 2c 5[c] j.2c knockdown

Combo doesn't really add anything to oki that I can see, maybe it can be used for better sandoori? Saw Taka try to do the TK dodge j.a whichway.
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Re: [MBAACC] Wara Changes + Discussion
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 07:52:38 AM »
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15914720

At 25:52 near the end, C-Wara does j214a air Akiha summon. He then lands and dashes in to do a 2A. The thing is, both the summon's hit and the 2A hit at the same time, one being overhead and the other being low. Doesn't this effectively make this an unblockable setup?
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