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Offline V-Kattou

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Warakia Actress Again changes
« on: July 07, 2008, 09:35:34 AM »
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[23:21] <nonotan> in crescent moon warakia loses his nails in 5a and 2a
warakia now has an aerial 236
nonotan: apparently it can be used like akiha's tk 236
nonotan: AERIAL SUMMONS


Seems like Wara is going to get some interesting aerial control.

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 11:19:55 AM »
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[23:21] <nonotan> in crescent moon warakia loses his nails in 5a and 2a

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2008, 09:47:34 PM »
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[23:21] <nonotan> in crescent moon warakia loses his nails in 5a and 2a

Lol, to make up for his overly far range for other attacks.

Aerial summons seem REALLY interesting. More air spammage like M-Hisui.
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 01:11:10 PM »
Nerfing any part of Warakia is PHAIL
As for air summons...You can still only have one out at a time right? zZz
Maybe less summon start up time =|

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 06:51:48 PM »
But in Crescent Moon, his attacks will be even faster, so perhaps range is decreased to compensate?

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 11:11:22 AM »
Full Moon - You can charge Magic Circuit from what I can tell so far (not character specific)
Orbs both air and ground
Black Fog (not sure what this does - Possibility of small hp drain?)
Diagonal Flying? (maybe his dash oO)
Different animations for 5c, 2c and 5b
Looks like j421 might have shorter lag
Mid air spin thing? @_@ (not j421 - Kouma match)
Higher 22a/b I think
No nails in 2a or 5a

Crescent Moon - Looks pretty much the same as current one
Air Claws
j421 also seems to have shorter lag
Not sure but there seems to still be nails in 2a and 5a

(I'm just taking notes in what I've seen so far)
« Last Edit: August 04, 2008, 05:22:48 AM by Nebiros »

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 11:26:20 AM »
Addition to Crescent mode:
Aerial summons. They appear on ground after you use it, but the fact that you can use them in the air is good enough for me.
Akiha summon with faster recovery? (not sure at all, just looked like it)
Aerial kattos too strong! Fast, momentum, KATTO!

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 05:57:11 PM »
If Warakia were smaller, he could use the cloud like a Kohaku molotov to mask a instant-j.C-esque overhead... His dash makes it perfect, since he has a crouch-sized animation during it. Speaking of which, I wonder how quickly can you cancel out of that dash?

It seems to me like the dash will be more of a hindrance than an asset, since Wara can't do dash/grab, and he'll eat anti-air moves ((This chair comes to mind...)).
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 06:13:49 PM »
I doubt, that with the great new asset of aerial kattos to the C-Wara, many would play F-Wara.



His new 2c is ugly anyway :prinny:

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 10:44:43 PM »
Could be that the fog changes the properties of certain moves, makes him do more damage, makes something or other unblockable, etc.

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 06:52:37 AM »
His new 2c is ugly anyway :prinny:

Yeah it is ugly :( But I really like F-Wara's new 5c.

Also neZ okuhoshi says that he saw a japanese BBS post where it just drains health and meter. So wara turns into the new Vakiha ;o

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 12:39:03 PM »
At least Wara's the buffed one 8DD
Obviously going for Crescent =P (Air Katto is wiiiiin. And no summons in Full =| )
This is just a thought, but Veteran MB players go with Crescent, New Players go for Half then switch to Full (since they have same moveset)
The Orbs might be good for air control? Not sure how good the Fog would be since I dont fight many Vakihas that actually use pits lulz

I was wondering about the delay for air summon? Would it be practical to tk summon for less summon lag? =P

PS: I worry about nerfed whiffing =|
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 06:13:23 AM »
Air summons?

Is the akiha summon still an overhead?  If so, doesn't that mean he should have....unblockables on wakeup via Eddie from Guilty Gear??????  :psyduck:

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 09:20:40 PM »
I'm def playing Fwara, new character ftw
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 10:13:45 PM »
I dunno...lack of Katto is unappealing to me.....
HWara and CWara look really similar... Moar 2b priority?  ;D

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 10:52:53 PM »
C-Warakia will probably end up as the top choice which is sad since Half Moon seems like the direction everyone is going. Problem is Warakia overall still does shit damage so using H-Warakia really screws up your damage potential since you're pretty much saving and then burning meter you need for EX Pinwheel.

I'm still not sold on I-no dash F-warakia since his normals look pathetic. The only thing wara had going for him was great range and it looks like F-wara got toned down in that regard.

Air Katto is good I guess, and I think they sped up Akiha summon which can only be a good thing.

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2008, 11:36:14 AM »
Crescent is pretty amazing with the added aerial moves. I also like the 2[c] (?) that throws out a mini fireball, looks like it might have some good uses.

As for H wara, if they changed his 5b to something else and if there were more appealing moves he would be awesome.

F-wara has awesome 5c, but thats all I'm really seeing. :(
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2008, 06:54:37 PM »
Him losing summons for F isn't too bad, is it?  I've tried summon setups, and Nanaya really doesn't work too well, and Nero, well I've had a Nanaya go right through it with a 623A, somehow.

Akiha summon in MBAC at least was too slow for anybody who knew it was an overhead to let it hit >_>.
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2008, 11:33:36 PM »
anyone know if h-wara has air summons?

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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 02:19:40 PM »
Badguy: I'm pretty sure he has summons in the air, but I could be wrong.


btw, have you guys been keeping up with the tourney videos and other wara videos in the actress again thread? j.kattos are more AWESOME than I first thought. They can be comboed into and give awesome frame advantage from what I can see. Aerial summons are awesome too.
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2008, 09:00:10 PM »
yeah air kattous are good stuff
some guy was TKing them in combos on me
he ended an air combo with a EX air kattou, then did a warc summon as i was landing, i was blocking warc summon but stuck in block stun so he guard broke me and then -> aerial etc.
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2008, 05:34:37 PM »
Warakia gets his own JP MBAA wiki too

http://www34.atwiki.jp/mbac_walachia/
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2008, 06:07:14 AM »
Coool o: I wish I could read jap ;_;

Akira: saw the tk katto combo....so...cool.
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 01:03:35 PM »
someone had just mention good stuff about Fwara
Ill try to translate them later, or AKIRA want to help  :psyduck:


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ワラキア使うならやっぱりフルだよ

驚異的なリーチと判定にアーマーを備えた5C
単発仕様になって効率が向上したJB
JAも連打利かない分、カウンター見逃さなくて済む

鬼火設置は設置系の技の中でもかなり凶悪な部類に入る
その場に留まらず揺れながら浮遊するから、青子のアレ以上に圧倒的な存在感がある
Ex鬼火の可能性はまだまだ伸びしろがある
通常ヒット時にヒットストップが発生しないことを利用した補正切りネタができなくもないはず…!

モザイクって画面に目隠し置くわけだけど、体力削られながら何されてるか見えないとか怖くね?
しかも暴れる奴には様子見→ダウン→起き攻めという醒めない悪夢、まさにタタリだね

地卍は回転が発生さえすれば「 完 全 無 敵 ! 」
これが結構荒らしにも揺さぶりにも使える
Aの対空範囲は凄まじいし、Bは着地点で鬼火がワラキアの背後に残るように出せばガードでも鬼火のおかげで隙がない
Ex版はコンボに組み込めば有利時間長いから、密度濃い起き攻めでセンスを見せつけるチャンス

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端まで持っていけばバクステされても痛くないし、流れに乗ればずっとワラキアのターン!

縦カットみたいな対空技はないけど、シールドバンカー、シールドカウンター、ワープ、MAX状態なら開放にサキスパにAD、LAもできる
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Re: Warakia Actress Again changes
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2008, 01:07:16 PM »
Badguy: I'm pretty sure he has summons in the air, but I could be wrong.


U can do it in air, but the summons are appearing in ground(exactly same as the old summons

no new summons :(




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236 - fireball for RAPE GUARD METER
a: fast
b: slower but stay longer
C: fast and stay long


214 - cloud for SUCKIN BLOOD

a: go forward slowly and stay long (about 6sec
b: doesnt go anywhere(about 4sec
C: just like b but sucking blood much faster


623 -CRAZY circle  - a/b/c are different orbits, mostly for defending air

a:  "n" 
b:  "つ"
c:  "∞" GOES THREE ROUND ,OTG     great stuff for combo endin
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