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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2008, 06:37:07 PM »
Eh, Full Moon Wlen looked cool at first, but I played her, here's my opinions:

<Ultima66> and whoever wanted to play full moon wlen, she's worse than she looks
<Ultima66> no more 623 mixups, no more EX ice loops, no more tj
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<Ultima66> other than that she has the same set of normals as crescent except her 2B only hits once and does less damage
<Ultima66> her new 236 really isn't good
<Ultima66> you see the EX version gives tons of +frames
<Ultima66> but her 236A/B aren't good
<Ultima66> they're just very mediocre zoning tools
<Ultima66> and her 214 is nice but it really doesn't make up for all she loses
<Ultima66> she has len's 623 which isn't bad but isn't a good tradeoff for her old 623 mixups cause that comprised of most of her combo damage and some mixups

in b4 Japan comes up with a bunch of innovations with F-WLen and beasts with her. Then I'll come back to this post.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2008, 11:31:59 PM »
« Last Edit: November 07, 2008, 11:53:17 AM by Psylocke »
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2008, 11:46:01 AM »
Wow new ice projectile thing gives her oki off of normal knockdowns! She looks so much better. :D Her airdodge is awesome too! Its like a little jump.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2008, 11:47:57 AM by Dizzynecro »

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2008, 12:00:25 PM »
F-WRen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lo3bQbzeCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUT5sW5-wg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idHq2vlae2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiyhGdlzHlg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_vnduQZavI

C-WRen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xibBFAqeI2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ti2PX6GIg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slP3EAyzXTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2VyaYFYsc

Crescent White Ren has a lot of new combos, seems like the juggle properties or startup speed of her 2c and 2b have been changed to make these possible.  Also, 5[c] is most likely faster now since she can combo into it off of a sweep.
Ok Full Moon doesn't look like a gimped crescent Wlen any more, but it DOES look kinda like a weaker Warc...

Her 236 can be used like Blood Rings and her 236C can be used like Geass Ring. She has 214 for zoning but it was only getting a lot of counterhits because people aren't used to it, like the first few times people play against Aoko where they'll get CH by orbs a lot. 214C looks about the same for wakeups as her old 214, except now it needs meter. 623 looks really close to just Len 623 in terms of use. She's slower than Warc/Aoko and also doesn't have as much range though, so...

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2008, 12:05:48 PM »

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2008, 12:40:57 PM »
also doesn't have as much range
???
Air range. Her 2B goes far and her 5B goes about as far as Warc 5C, but in the air she has nothing that's not a projectile that extends as far as Warc j.B.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2008, 12:47:01 PM »
also doesn't have as much range
???
Air range. Her 2B goes far and her 5B goes about as far as Warc 5C, but in the air she has nothing that's not a projectile that extends as far as Warc j.B.
Oh ok yeah thats true.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2008, 11:01:26 PM »
It's the fastest projectile in the game.

F. W-Len is awesome. I'm all for it.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2008, 10:59:05 AM »
Yeah F and C both look awesome now, I'm gonna have to play both so I can switch for the counter counter pick. Half looks terrible.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2008, 09:42:16 PM »
More C-WRen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqMXHbpyA60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUU5VRMMj8k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOn1OwmcC68

A different C-WRen than the ones linked earlier.  Has a very different playstyle, and uses some really cool mixups.  At the end, he switches to Full for a pretty lol match
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2008, 04:57:16 AM »
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs 8:12

C-WLen can do a VSion j2b-like move? And I see those rings you normally get when you do an airdash. What could this mean...?
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2008, 06:43:59 AM »
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs 8:12

C-WLen can do a VSion j2b-like move? And I see those rings you normally get when you do an airdash. What could this mean...?
That's her j.214A. It's in MBAC but no one uses it and it sucks. It's probably good in MBAA.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2008, 09:02:18 AM »
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs 8:12

C-WLen can do a VSion j2b-like move? And I see those rings you normally get when you do an airdash. What could this mean...?
F has it also.
W.Len seems to win by time out a lot.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2008, 09:34:30 AM by Dizzynecro »

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2008, 06:46:12 PM »
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs 8:12

C-WLen can do a VSion j2b-like move? And I see those rings you normally get when you do an airdash. What could this mean...?

i thought it' j214a ... :psyduck:

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2008, 08:20:34 AM »
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0iIVYT6Zs 8:12

C-WLen can do a VSion j2b-like move? And I see those rings you normally get when you do an airdash. What could this mean...?

i thought it' j214a ... :psyduck:
It is...

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2008, 03:05:01 PM »
Who is Ultima66?

WHO IS YOU?!
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2008, 05:34:13 AM »
Hey, anyone have any vids of H-W Len? I haven't seen her in action yet.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2008, 01:01:45 PM »
She sucks so nobody is picking her.

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2009, 01:30:01 PM »
Based on the Ver.A videos released, F-W Len seems to be able to hold her ice plants out, like Aoko could do with 421 orbs in MBAC. Seems very useful, too, especially for charging dat meter. But despite that, F-W Len's damage is undeniably horrible. I don't think she broke 3K damage in the several matches she was in. C-W Len, on the other hand, looks incredible. =)
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2009, 02:28:53 PM »
full white len looks way more reliable though. full white len pretty much addresses all the problems she has (except for her air normals being crap). and besides 1 hit knock down 2b is the only thing I want.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2009, 02:52:10 PM »
Matt shut up and do more DPs.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2009, 06:05:29 PM »
Uhh... shoot. Lost the vid link, but H-W Len sighting. She didn't look bad at all. Her dash is quiiiiick. Its like MBAC W Len's dash, but without the slow startup.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2009, 01:33:43 AM »
full white len looks way more reliable though. full white len pretty much addresses all the problems she has (except for her air normals being crap). and besides 1 hit knock down 2b is the only thing I want.

She's hella more reliable than the other WLens, and is just more solid in general.
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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2009, 10:11:42 AM »
Doesn't Full's BnB do like 2k?

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Re: MBAA White Ren
« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2009, 07:34:37 PM »
Doesn't Full's BnB do like 2k?

IIRC, it was 3k average. She does her damage more off mixups and being an annoying SOB.
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