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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2009, 09:30:20 AM »
iirc it's the same damage as an airthrow but presents a tech opportunity which can be hard to punish.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2009, 01:41:05 PM »
i don't know, maybe because is safer, the second hit of the j.2c might miss, there is not much diference in the damage compared to Red Arcueid j.2c wich deals more damge than a normal airthrow

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2009, 02:35:20 PM »
iirc it's the same damage as an airthrow but presents a tech opportunity which can be hard to punish.
hard to punish? what do you mean?

i don't know, maybe because is safer, the second hit of the j.2c might miss, there is not much diference in the damage compared to Red Arcueid j.2c wich deals more damge than a normal airthrow
it never miss
i always use the j.2c when im finishing the aircombo

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2009, 04:28:05 PM »
It's not always trivial to punish the tech off of j.2C, especially midscreen.  Why not just airthrow?
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2009, 06:45:21 PM »
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i don't know, maybe because is safer, the second hit of the j.2c might miss, there is not much diference in the damage compared to Red Arcueid j.2c wich deals more damge than a normal airthrow

it never miss
i always use the j.2c when im finishing the aircombo

well, the second hit of j.2c might miss in AC if you are too low in the air, but in AA the range is somewhat bigger, the bad thing about the air throw in AA is that you will end up cornered when doing a midscreen combo, since Arc jumps a bit forward after the airthrow

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2009, 02:55:08 PM »
Airthrowing sucks because the recovery is so long. For some characters you recovery after they get up, meaning you completely lose pressure.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2009, 06:44:43 PM »
Here's my take on this:

Even though Arc's air throw has increased recovery in AA compared to AC, it's not totally a bad thing to use sometimes. However, she does have other options that she can use to setup an untechable knockdown. For example in the corner with C-Arc when you do her b&b wall slam loop you can end it with after 2C (delayed 4C, AD j.C, land 5A, 5B, 2B, 2C to 623A or delayed 236A, 236A, 214A). Either the 623A or 236 rekka finishers will setup nicely to any decent oki option (IAD j.C, 5[ B ], 236[A], etc) as opposed to air throw. If you land a wall slam throw near the corner, your only options of course would be air combo to air throw or j.2C for tech punish setup, but if you really want to and you have ample meter you can do 22A after throw then land and juggle with 623C to oki setup (make sure you do the reversed command 421C after 22A in the corner since the game thinks you are landing on the opposite side of the opponent).

As far as mid-screen goes the ideal option would be to combo into 2C then do 5C, homing jump to j.B, j.C land to wall slam loop, but depending the opponent's character and your positioning towards the corner you may not always be able to land this setup so most players will take the simple route and do air combo to air throw instead. The trade-off with doing air throw of course is that Arc bounces away from the opponent after she lands and with the increased recovery from air throw you pretty much barely have any time to run back towards the opponent so they can easily run away from you which ends your offensive advantage and resets the situation.

Arc really didn't need to have MORE recovery on her air throw but they decided to put it in there anyways so I guess we'll just have to deal with it. :-\
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2009, 03:08:49 PM »
This may be of interest to some Arc players, it's a great and pretty recent video of You OCVing a five-man team with F and C-Arc. The first few matches are with Full and the last few are crescent.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9166134

About the ender issue, I really wished we lived in Japan so no one would tech my j2C, alas, it was not meant to be. You can use 623A for untechable knockdown and good oki after 236B in a corner loop, but the damage loss is pretty significant...
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2010, 03:23:01 PM »
hi all im new to melty, and c-arc has caught my eye.... being that i now have the game, would anyone be kind enough to share her air bnb & wall slam bnb since i cant tell some of the inputs just by looking yet ;D thanks in advance

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2010, 05:05:57 PM »
thanks, btw in the notation, what does tk mean?

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2010, 05:09:16 PM »
Tiger knee. A motion where you hit 8 right after you input the motion you want, e.g. 2368C. This makes your character perform the air version of the move.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2010, 05:28:43 PM »
thanks

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2010, 11:57:11 AM »
<Graven> When you are Ciel, don't try to win, don't even try to do anything. The more you do, the stupider and bigger faggot you become because you're using Ciel.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2010, 06:45:52 PM »
I'm new to MBAA and currently learning to play F-Arc I have a few questions on some of her combos/links

I'm currently attempting to learn this combo: 2A/j.C 5B 2B 2C 3C 236A x 623B j.C JC j.ABC AT

and I can't seem to to combo or link the 236A after the 3C I'm not even sure if I'm cancelling to slow or if I'm meant to time it to link. Any advice?

Edit: Nvm. I can link it while doing the combo. 236A just doesn't link after 3C outside of the combo for some reason.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2010, 08:41:19 PM »
<Graven> When you are Ciel, don't try to win, don't even try to do anything. The more you do, the stupider and bigger faggot you become because you're using Ciel.
<WyvernLord> roku is faking his disappearance so melty bread can come out and try to convince him of his value to the community

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2010, 08:52:47 PM »
Thanks ehrik.

That F-Arc in those videos is too good. What's the guys name? I hear the commentator saying "Roshi arc" is his name Roshi?

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2010, 09:04:43 PM »
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If you can translate that, thats his name D: I honestly dont know lol
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2010, 09:10:32 PM »
Yeah that says Rochishin So I guess the guy was saying "Rochi arc" and not Roshi. He is damn good though.

Do you also play F-Arc?

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2010, 07:10:40 AM »
Holy shiit its Vecayse, your the first guy from Neo Empire to bother coming to Mbread, +props

I think I've asked before, but what part of london you from again?

Also related to MBAA C-Arc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9NOikqDx-M <- Little tutorial video I made
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2010, 08:48:41 AM »
I live in Barking. And yeah I came here because NE doesn't have much about MBAA at all. So I thought it'd be better to join a forum dedicated to it.

Oh and nice tutorial. I'm definetly gonna be trying out C-Arc after I get the hang of F-Arc

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2010, 12:07:51 PM »
I dont know london well enough to know where barking is >.>

anyways, when are you holding sessions for MBAA then ? ;p and is Barking near the central line?
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2010, 06:17:27 PM »
I have no place to hold sessions >_> Do you live in London as well?

We need to convince Casino to get MBAACC but I don't think they will :/ Maybe if we show them there is enough interest? (even though there clearly isn't)

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2010, 01:52:27 AM »
I live in Hackney and Charles lives in BarkingSIDE - so I think you might be closeby

Im FROSTBOLT from NE so yeah like, if your up for travelling to Hackney, could get some training sessions in
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2010, 04:13:29 PM »
^Late reply but, I wouldn't mind having some offline sessions for the game.

Has there been any videos/information on Arc from MBAACC?