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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #125 on: September 04, 2007, 07:34:02 AM »
That begining portion was great!

And that's about all I got out it really.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2007, 08:35:04 AM »
Just wanted to give some input while I watched these vids. Remarkable playing. Just amazing. I'll put in more as the day continues.

Magz vs. Psylocke

Magz:
- Damn, you've come a long way. A long, long way. Definitely stick with V. Akiha if you can pull this shit off consistently. You've stopped doing just IAD j.C and you have some really great mixups. Solid, solid, corner traps and loop. I'm proud of you man. I remember beating you for free just a few months back. Your V. Akiha has definitely made great progress.
- Try using more empty j.C on the wakeup crossups. You were eating shield a lot and if Psy wasn't trying to be pro with charged 5b, you might have actually ended up losing some rounds.
- You were getting airthrown a LOT. Try backdashing your SJ more because Psy was just sitting on it. I would have liked to see more aerial flametongue mobility, but you did well enough without it.
- I noticed there were some execution problems in the later rounds. A lot of missed TK Flame Pit and some pretty retarded 236 nonsense that makes Satoken cry. Bad Magz. Bad.
- I dont know how effective it might be, but some 6c mixup could be put into consideration.

Psylocke:
- Best Akiha in US. I said it. No one touches you on consistency and setups. No one controls air space like your Akiha does and nobody makes me more afraid of corner rape then that j.2c of yours. I heard from some EC peeps that Zar would beat you but I'm not going to bite. You've been playing Akiha since day one and it shows.
- Watch those throw setups buddy. I know its your bread and butter but sometimes, you gotta stop rushing in and getting out-poked.
- Bait that force heat more. I know you like that floating j.2c oki setups but you'll eat heat everytime you do that. Magz was just forcing out of your corner traps because you relied on that nasty oki-setup too much.
- I know its hard to block V.Akiha in the corner but by the end, you were just getting smoked. What happened to the shield? The airthrow? You were owning Magz for free in the beginning with that those. Don't lose confidence. You know that j.a or that j.c is coming. You know he's going to IAD after that blocked j.a. Kill him for it.

Alt vs. Scott


Alt:
- Ugh...watching your Warakia makes me remember all the crap I had to put up with. Punish every mistake, every blockstring, every whiff...yah, you still do the thing you do. Your switching to Kouma anyway, but I'll rag on your Warakia regardless.
- Knockdown 2c into Nero summon. Not 2c5c into Nero summon. I know you like that forward tech into 623c trick, but I'm telling you, Nero summon after sweep is where's it at.
- You like those random Nanaya and Akiha summons don't you? I don't even know how to critique em since they worked. But you have to tell me sometimes what you think when you summon for fun.
- GG Warakia. GO GO KOUMA!

Scott:
- Pumpkin Ciel...WHHHHYYY???
- You have to play tight against Warakia and against Alt in particular. I think you were getting a bit impatient and I feel you. But sometimes, just back off a bit from the Ciel rushdown. Alt was sitting on that dash of yours and was just hitting j.c after every 2a or 2b poke you were throwing. I would actually try dashing in with 4c with Ciel since that has some decent AA properties. At worst you might exchange hits but that's better then eating a full combo everytime. Plus, you know better than to dash in with 623b.
- I know you like that flashy 22b into 214c aircombo ender (you whiffed it a couple of times I think), but really, stick with airthrow. You were killing me in casuals with it since you are really good at oki.
- You were going for the shield way too much by the second match and I kinda think you knew it wasn't going to work half the time. Also, instead of 2c after 5a CH, I would go for charged 5c. You'll get more damage off it.
- Stay patient! Rushing in is playing right into Alt's hands. Zone a bit more with knives if you have to and make him eat EX Hiero during random shadow summon.


Leo vs. Veteru
(LEO!! YOU HAD IT! OTG LOOP IN THE CORNER FTW! T.T)

Leo:
- Well, with all the WC Satsukis, someone has to be the best right? Good, good shit. Since you played it so close, its hard to say what advice I could give which might have tipped anything in your favor. Seriously, good playing.
- I noticed 2c countering was killing you early on. Veteru was IADing your 2c early on. Plus 2c while Nanaya is landing is just suicide. Veteru was just waiting for it so he could DJ and j.c punish. You switched it to 5a which really worked very well. My only advice is try to nail those 5a CH combos. I noticed you were just slamming 5a instead of fishing for the CH into loop. Its picking at hairs, but see what you can get out of it.
- You like that IAD j.c a lot, but when you IAD cancel your 214a, try going into empty j.c. I noticed you didn't try that at all during your match, but it really is a good dimension in Satsuki's game. It can lead to a lot of bite or throw setups at the very worst.
- Veteru was backdashing your midscreen crossups all the time. I would have just tried the normal SJ into meaty 2c setups to see if that would have worked.
- I almost cried when you tried to 236c Veteru after his Heat at the end of the second match. YOU KNEW THAT WASN'T GOING TO WORK! YOU KNEW IT! Plus you missed the OTG corner combo in the end. Just throw that 2c out! Seriously though, those are decisions anyone might try to make at the end of a very tight game. Its hard for me to rag you too hard for it.

Veteru:
- Veteru...the man...the theory...the IRC legend. You have definitely silenced many critics. Excellent gameplay and solid, solid execution. You didn't whiff anything and you knew what you were out there to do. You know this game in a way few people do or even tried to do. GG!
- If there's any aspect of the game that I think you need work on, its the tech traps. You probably like the sure thing damage more, but I notice a lot of Nanaya players try to go for the OTG combos after knockdown to fish for a bounce. Especially in corner. I like those 623c combos as much as anyone, and its really up to you, but I think I would toss a random OTG setup just for fun and see what happens.
- Watch more of Gao! His blockstring don't require him to dash forward :)
- Keep on rushing it down.

Post more in a bit.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2007, 09:43:13 AM by lain102300 »

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #127 on: September 04, 2007, 10:13:55 AM »
Top teir vid + commentary

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #128 on: September 04, 2007, 11:31:06 AM »
yeah i got impatient for sure! I need more throw gimmicks, since i did EXACTLY the same gimmicks that worked in Evo, as i did in WT4. But yeah, next time i want a re-match! ^_^

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #129 on: September 05, 2007, 01:56:10 PM »
The commentary made watching the entire thing so worth it.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #130 on: September 06, 2007, 02:54:46 PM »
I found the commentary very low grade.

Maybe next time you should get someone who actually knows the story behind the game to give the commentary.

Night guy from capes?
Resident evil arm?
Lazy stage design with one rock?

Obviously the commentator doesn't know the significance of some stuff. Really spoiled my experience watching the video, sadly.

Other than that, very nice gameplay. Will prolly rewatch it some time soon (without sound).

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #131 on: September 06, 2007, 03:26:46 PM »
i dont think ANYONE commentates on story in any fighting game

"Oh sick Dhalism breaths fire cuz he eats curry, did you know that?.

as far as melty blood- raise your hand if you know the story behind the game.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #132 on: September 06, 2007, 03:28:15 PM »
the commentry ....I mean it maybe funny at the beginning but becomes very irritating towards the end :toot:

why even let someone who knows nothing about the game and is half drunk to comment on the game?:mystery:

the video is awesome btw
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #133 on: September 06, 2007, 03:34:16 PM »
because sanchez is awesome

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #134 on: September 06, 2007, 03:42:30 PM »
Sanchez is funny, but honestly I agree, next time get someone who knows what they're talking about on there please, or crowd reaction at the very least.
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #135 on: September 06, 2007, 03:45:39 PM »
hopefully we'll make him a MB player soon

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #136 on: September 06, 2007, 03:48:46 PM »
"Oh sick Dhalism breaths fire cuz he eats curry, did you know that?.

I did. Also Balrog(Boxer) killed one of his elephants with his bare hands!

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #137 on: September 06, 2007, 03:55:11 PM »
I found the commentary very low grade.

Maybe next time you should get someone who actually knows the story behind the game to give the commentary.

Night guy from capes?
Resident evil arm?
Lazy stage design with one rock?

Obviously the commentator doesn't know the significance of some stuff. Really spoiled my experience watching the video, sadly.

Other than that, very nice gameplay. Will prolly rewatch it some time soon (without sound).

Melty Blood is a fighting game. This was a tournament. This isn't game director's commentary, so why does the story have ANYTHING to do with the commentary? It was entertaining because NotSanchez was absolutely hilarious in his lack of knowledge. If you prefer deep commentary instead of funny play-by-play, then I've got nothin' for you.
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #138 on: September 06, 2007, 04:00:07 PM »
People, we need to have Sanchez commentate on everything, end of story. I mean you know that's a jC or an EX deer. Why is it a bad thing to have them called "resident evil arm" and "Bambi"? Hell it's not like the official names are that much better anyways...

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #139 on: September 06, 2007, 04:09:16 PM »
OH SHIT Mai cancels into the Super Deadly Ninja Bees!!

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #140 on: September 06, 2007, 04:15:11 PM »
I agree with Choco and Devereaux- it was hilarious because it had NOTHING to do with Melty Blood. We're past the fanboyish obsession with accuracy here. What does a tournament have to do with the official story anyhow?
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #141 on: September 06, 2007, 05:38:53 PM »
I don't think he was talking about story, so much as he was talking about the reality of what's going on in the match. Someone detailing the nuances of a match up as its happening (and further expanding upon it) will do wonders for people interested in the game versus shits and giggles. It's better to have a mix of both, then to be all comedic really, at least in my humble opinion.
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #142 on: September 06, 2007, 05:54:15 PM »
But, he did every once in a while say something technical. The only thing I can remember off the top of my head(which can very well be my only example of this case) where it was magz vs psylocke and he explained the defense rating gap between Vakiha and Akiha. Not exactly commentating on good strategies that were going on, but still a good tidbit of information that was not funny at all.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #143 on: September 06, 2007, 06:22:44 PM »
The magz v. psylocke match was commentated on by Arlieth. The later matches were commentated on by Sanchez.

I actually enjoyed the commentary a great deal. But Chibi makes a good point. Probably only the experienced players will enjoy the commentary because they already know whats going on. The newer players won't appreciate the humor because they're just as confused. But regardless, highly entertaining commentary.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #144 on: September 06, 2007, 07:01:39 PM »
i'm taking the opposite side of lain's thinking, that the new players would enjoy the commentary more than experienced players because they're watching the video with the same line of thinking and lack of intricate knowledge.

Sorry, i think talking on the details of gameplay belongs more on an FAQ or guide, not at a live event. I've always stood by the notion that a commentator's job is to ENTERTAIN AS WELL AS give a good balance of gameplay. You'll never hear Rockefeller talk about 12 frame startup, or little nuances of the match because its simply not entertaining. I BELIEVE- MB needs everything it can get to stay viable in the US. that goes for entertainment factor, which makes it sellable to The Cannons for possible next year's Evo, and to anyone in the US watching the video that wants to pick up the game.

Evo West 3s matches were much more interesting than Evo World. I wonder why.

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #145 on: September 06, 2007, 07:10:37 PM »
The magz v. psylocke match was commentated on by Arlieth. The later matches were commentated on by Sanchez.

I actually enjoyed the commentary a great deal. But Chibi makes a good point. Probably only the experienced players will enjoy the commentary because they already know whats going on. The newer players won't appreciate the humor because they're just as confused. But regardless, highly entertaining commentary.

This is assuming that newer players want to hear a commentator call out 1-9/A-C remarks in the first place. To break it down I would have to say, focusing on the impact/reaction factor of this video on potential new players, (seeing as that is the focal point of this small disagreement) I think that this particular video would be accepted more by newer fans than many other videos in the same vein with serious commentary.

The main reason I think this way is the fact that many potential new players tune out the precise commentary of these types of vids, as without hands on experience the commentary feels distant and foreign. I also thought Sanchez did a great job in explaining beginner details (sometimes having them explained to him as well :V) that often get left out. To sum it up, the complaint is that the commentary will deter potential new fans. I find this to be a moot point seeing that most commentary done up until this video was obviously directed tworads seasoned players of the game.

Anyways, I'm of the belief that a good community draws in new blood better than the focal point of that community itself. Melty Blood is just a game, but Melty Bread is something else entirely...
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2007, 07:27:51 PM »
You guys should listen to 3s or Marvel ranbat commentary some time. I know it made me want to start taking fighting games seriously.

EDIT: Plus, who wants to listen to some jackass yell "JUMP C!! JUMP C!!" all the time?

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #147 on: September 06, 2007, 07:38:09 PM »
who the hell wants to hear oh 2b6c856723b jc jc jc jc jc jc jcjcjcjcjcjc

its much better hearing BIOHAZARDBIOHAZARDBIOHAZARD or Rockefeller not even talking about 3s half the time he does his commentary.
you already know whats going on. why need to hear it in some fancy techinical name?
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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #148 on: September 06, 2007, 07:38:53 PM »
dont forget mason's best commentating line:

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Re: EVO WORLD MBAC SINGLES Results AND VIDEO
« Reply #149 on: September 06, 2007, 08:11:37 PM »
Anybody who can complain about Sanchez's commentary has no sense of humor whatsoever. You're watching a fucking video game for christ's sake - have a little fun.
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