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The Diaspora => Tournaments and Events => : Arlieth Tralare August 29, 2007, 01:28:08 PM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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This will take place at Evolution World 2008.
Rules:
- Three-Man Teams
- Locked Characters, No Duplicate Characters
- 2/3 Games, Double-Elimination
- $50 Entry Fee per player
- 1st Place takes Pot, other prizes for top three to be decided (including Shirts, Custom Cases, etc). I'll be contributing $300 towards this. Winning Team also gets to hold the Melty Cup for one year, to be brought back the following year.
- Teams may be decided at Evolution 2008 prior to signup.
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Tom, I wish I had a uterus just so I could have your babies.
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Can we still be honorary region members? Like, even if I'm on EC right now, I've been in Norcal for 4 years! I should get special dispensation!
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Lain: You have a point... but that has to be arranged with the norcal captain. You/Alt/Magz would be a pretty good team, though.
... Maybe too good. Hmmmmmmmmmm... :3
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NJ = Myself, LK, Zaelar!
:toot:
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I will be attending EVO next year (unless some unforeseen tragic event occurs) so I hope I'll have been beasted on enough to make the NY team cut. IP
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yay so i get a year of practice. :toot:
whens west toast 7 thomas?
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Why have teams when the captain is just going to play every game?
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Because there's a hidden agenda behind this tournament which probably isn't that hidden: to expand the U.S. Melty Blood scene. One year is enough time for anyone to convert their friends to this game and get serious. And since it's teams, you HAVE to find two other competent players. And this tournament is gonna improve every existing scene.
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I gotta say... your dedication to the MB scene is awesome, Arlieth. I guess I'm saying this because what you're doing is like what The WiLL did for Naruto (GameCube). He created the hype for GNT4 by running a forum for it and hosting monthly tournaments for it. It reached a point where people actually travelled from California, Illinois, Iowa, Ohio, everywhere... just to go to Florida for WillVolution. The WiLL took a game that people loved to play and made it even more worthwhile to play it. So moving away from The WiLL, I'm saying that what you're doing is making Melty Blood worth it. All the time that everyone's invested in the game.. it's all for this. We didn't waste our time practicing some animu fighter. We did it for MELTY CUP.
Arizona took Teams at Evo. We'll take Melty Cup. The power of UNITY AND BROTHERHOOD
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This sounds hot and fucking hype. Guess I'll have to take this game seriously now.
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Because there's a hidden agenda behind this tournament which probably isn't that hidden: to expand the U.S. Melty Blood scene. One year is enough time for anyone to convert their friends to this game and get serious. And since it's teams, you HAVE to find two other competent players. And this tournament is gonna improve every existing scene.
Except theres nothing in the rules about using multiple players on a team.
Once that gets fixed I've got more if they don't get fixed along with it.
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Evo World 2007 just ended so this feels so far away. :( I like this idea and I'm looking forward to it.
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Because there's a hidden agenda behind this tournament which probably isn't that hidden: to expand the U.S. Melty Blood scene. One year is enough time for anyone to convert their friends to this game and get serious. And since it's teams, you HAVE to find two other competent players. And this tournament is gonna improve every existing scene.
Except theres nothing in the rules about using multiple players on a team.
Once that gets fixed I've got more if they don't get fixed along with it.
holy fuck you are so anal rentative
christ
RELAX
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NJ = Myself, LK, Zaelar!
:toot:
LK is totally PA now. =(
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i'm assuming one team per region?
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Norcal will be Mizuki coast soon bitches.
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Possibly me and Xianoir and Kurii will be there to represent Texas.
n/m $50 PER player, you're smoking crack mang. :psyduck:
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n/m $50 PER player, you're smoking crack mang. :psyduck:
Suck it up bro, this shit is 100% SERIOUS now. You have an entire year to crackdown and turn yourself into a beast.
Evo doesn't want to take us seriously yet? Fuck it, we'll still be here.
If we get the same numbers as this year (45) people, that's $2,250, or $750 per person on your team.
GET FUCKING HYPE.
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I guess my team would have to be something like myself/Nas/bbhood... DE counts for MD cuz Nas is alllllll aloooooooooneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Also dear god Arly change the name of this fucking site im so tired of seeing bread making ads :V
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Hm... VA has Me, Reloy, Tiamat, and VR who are good and actually living here... 4 =/= 3 This is a dilemma...
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n/m $50 PER player, you're smoking crack mang. :psyduck:
Suck it up bro, this shit is 100% SERIOUS now. You have an entire year to crackdown and turn yourself into a beast.
Evo doesn't want to take us seriously yet? Fuck it, we'll still be here.
If we get the same numbers as this year (45) people, that's $2,250, or $750 per person on your team.
GET FUCKING HYPE.
lawl stafoo. it's obviously nearly impossible to say, beat out the current top players who would most certainly take 1st. if there aren't any cash prizes after that, it's like, 50 people playing, but only 10 people who are really go nna stand a chance.
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But the whole point of this tournament is to show who really is the best, and everyone should enter with the mind that they are the ones that are going to come out on top.
Plus its a year from now. Anything can happen in a year.
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my question still goes unanswered. is only one team per region allowed? how many teams total?
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Can we still be honorary region members? Like, even if I'm on EC right now, I've been in Norcal for 4 years! I should get special dispensation!
I wouldn't mind, but alt's against it >_>
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Then we'll just have to make him not qualify for NorCal team. And Lain should be NorCal, probably just for this lat tourney.
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n/m $50 PER player, you're smoking crack mang. :psyduck:
Suck it up bro, this shit is 100% SERIOUS now. You have an entire year to crackdown and turn yourself into a beast.
Evo doesn't want to take us seriously yet? Fuck it, we'll still be here.
If we get the same numbers as this year (45) people, that's $2,250, or $750 per person on your team.
GET FUCKING HYPE.
lawl stafoo. it's obviously nearly impossible to say, beat out the current top players who would most certainly take 1st. if there aren't any cash prizes after that, it's like, 50 people playing, but only 10 people who are really go nna stand a chance.
Fuck that. Team NY can kiss my ass.
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Norcal will be Mizuki coast soon bitches.
Not if I can help it. >=o
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Team Zaelar Defines US Ciel. :toot: :toot:
Or maybe Team Bubz?
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Team Zaelar Defines US Ciel. :toot: :toot:
Or maybe Team Bubz?
Team LIGHT KICK
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This sounds insanely awesome. Good idea.
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well a whole year to get it rocking. Inviting the jp's to the american champs. Very good start. Arly if you need any help setting this up let me know, and I'll do what I can. Also, what about the singles championship?
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see... in a year, arly might not even be top.
....it'll be me.
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ya arly isnt getting any better as quick as the rest of us are.
and some will be able to find the best around his summons.
thats when its my time to shine :)
then i just have to get by baramaster scott... :emo: :emo:
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Just alittle curious what about MA? i don't even think theres 2 players here.
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Just alittle curious what about MA? i don't even think theres 2 players here.
eh..isn't TGA out there?!?
they have MBAC v.B2
get a scene started out there!!!
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Hmm. I don't want to be greedy or anything, so I'd cap the Melty Cup at 8 teams. Otherwise it'd take forever to complete.
Technically, one team per region, but regions can always be subdivided. I.e.: NJ / NY.
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Since this isn't going to replace singles, and we are only looking for one winner, how about just make it SBO style?
Also fix the rules because right now something like...
NY vs CA
Zar plays Arlieth, Zar wins.
Zar plays Arlieth, Zar wins.
NY just won two so they advance!
...could happen. No its not what you were thinking but by the rules that could. The thing is whatever the rules are supposed to be can't be determined the way they are. Are teams round robin or elimination style? Does the 2/3 mean each player plays 2/3 or each team plays 2/3? These things need to be addressed and clear. I'd also suggest removing the 2/3ness since it's three people already so it works as a 3/5, just with player changes...assuming elimination style. Round robin style would just take way too long.
There is a lot of time left to decide these things, but the earlier the better, especially if there are major changes like team size and team restrictions.
On the topic of restrictions, players playing for a different region they live in should have a good reason of doing so, like recently moving, or playing with that group more. Keep in mind this is a year to come so people who just recently moved now are going to be in their current area for a year...unless they move again that is. Either some specific guidelines on a no restriction rule or a rule should be said soon though. Something like must have played in an area for two of the last three months to count as part of that area or something.
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Fuck that. Team NY can kiss my ass.
Its hard to hear you so deep in jersey..... ;p
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ok zaelar is off of team nj for going ape shit over little shit again
who wants in?
I promise you FREE DONUTS and DEATHBURGERS
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yea i would have be on like buri's team or sumthing... but shit im coming to evo NEXT YEAR.. FOR THE GOOD OF MELTY BITCHES
also why cap it a 8 when you could possibly have like 4 to 6 more teams?
buri/nas/bbhood going to take over
i step on Master chibi like a roach you can't touch me son!
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Hmm. I don't want to be greedy or anything, so I'd cap the Melty Cup at 8 teams. Otherwise it'd take forever to complete.
Technically, one team per region, but regions can always be subdivided. I.e.: NJ / NY.
lol @ greedy comment. you sure you gon' win?
I don't think the 8-team cap is a good idea. By placing a limit, you may widen the gap between the veterans and the beginners - thus killing a lot of possible MB community growth. The beginners will feel like they don't have a chance to make the 8, so they won't bother practicing. The veterans will get better as the beginners will stop trying. Of course, it can work the other way around where lots of beginners quit MB, but the ones that stay through it become serious players. I guess it all boils down to quantity or quality. But I think if you really want to expand the Melty Blood scene, it's best to do everything possible to encourage all new players to get better - which includes making a larger team cap limit. If it was possible to do a 16-team 2v2 tournament at Evo, time should allow a 10-team 3v3 tournament, at least. but yeah yeah, I wasn't at Evo, I wouldn't know how tiring it was be in a 32-man tournament, etc
maybe I'm looking into all of this too much. either way.. I hope you consider my feedback, man.
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The greedy comment was a throwback to how Evolution kept taking entries for 3s this year at the cost of compromising the format, from 2/3 into single match. I don't want the same thing to happen to the Melty Cup. If there really are like, 12 teams all wanting in though, we can work something out.
Also: I'll handle it, Zaelar, no worries.
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Also, isn't the point of the name being "US Championships" meaning that we only want the best players to enter? As much as we don't want to discourage beginners, its just as bad if the tournament had competitors who can't tech out of an invalid combo, isn't it?
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That's why it's a damn year from now. If you're still doing shit a year from now on, shame the fuck on you, and it's a free pass to whoever gets to kick your ass.
HYPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPE
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lawl, i'll MM master chibi for my entry fee.
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lawl, i'll MM master chibi for my entry fee.
lawl no you wont
pay up like the rest of us buddy
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You guys are getting way ahead of yourselves
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You guys are getting way ahead of yourselves
lets see if you can get ahead of SUPER JUMP B RING, AIR DASH FOWARD A RING buddy
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING IT
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Then we'll just have to make him not qualify for NorCal team.
Psh, the Hell you could ever pull that off. Seems like by next year, if people step their game up, we could have as many as 7 really good people in "NorCal":
Magz
Spirit Juice
Sims
Shobes
Tsubasa
Lain (TRAITOR)
Me
We'd have to decide if we want a well rounded team or just the 3 best players.
Arly was talking about maybe making the region North Pacific, though, which would include a few more people, most notably you-know-who.
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I'm gonna have to step up my shit and take this seriously. Time to get practicing! >:D
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I like how people forget that I'M IN NORCAL. You homos.
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I like how people forget that I'M IN NORCAL. You homos.
Are you going to Sac Con
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The greedy comment was a throwback to how Evolution kept taking entries for 3s this year at the cost of compromising the format, from 2/3 into single match. I don't want the same thing to happen to the Melty Cup. If there really are like, 12 teams all wanting in though, we can work something out.
Thanks for the clarification. lookin' forward to Melty Cup for sure : )
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If necessary, I can allow multiple teams per region, to better represent the strength of each scene. I can see both norcal and socal having two teams each, as well as EC.
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I like how people forget that I'M IN NORCAL. You homos.
Forget... or don't care?! >:D
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things seem to go pretty well, this is gona be crazy ! :psyduck:
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I like how people forget that I'M IN NORCAL. You homos.
Norcal? More like, SOUTHERN OREGON--Yo, am I right?
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Norcal? More like, SOUTHERN OREGON--Yo, am I right?
got em coach
*high five*
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I like how people forget that I'M IN NORCAL. You homos.
Are you going to Sac Con
Why would I waste my time to go to an anime con for a tournament. Granted 3-5 of us Mbreaders will be there, but an anime con. It isn't worth it, I'd rather spend my money going to a West Toast.
If necessary, I can allow multiple teams per region, to better represent the strength of each scene. I can see both norcal and socal having two teams each, as well as EC.
Lol, if your thinking because they neglect me of the nor-cal scene, it doesn't matter. Veteru will need 2 more members, won't he?
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If necessary, I can allow multiple teams per region, to better represent the strength of each scene. I can see socal having five teams.
Fixed.
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There is a simple solution to all this team limit stuff. Have free qualifiers.
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If the entree fee is $150 per team, let the scrubs enter. You can lock entrees a week or two before evo, make the bracket, and only allow last minute entrees that fill in the byes. Early matches can be played through 3 or so setups to make it fast, then have the top 4 or so played with commentary. This isn't replacing singles which won't have such a steep entree fee where everyone can enter.
I'd suggest having one qualifier for each region, north/south/east/west, preferably just do them at the evo tournaments in each area if its the same as this year. Whoever wins each one gets seeded as that regions leading team and everyone else gets random. Another option is the 4 region leaders and 4 other teams who have to qualify at Vegas to get into the last 8, with losses reset, so its basically the first tournament(4 teams who qualified can't enter), and the top 4 all get to enter the second tournament with the 4 qualifiers.
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Okay wow whos on Team PA
Damn now I feel like incorporating MB into my daily schedule.
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Aww, im not gonna be there.
And even if i was gonna be there, the two guys from Chi town area i would choose are prolly not going either, so what's the point? =/
Tis a shame, unless AH makes Evo 2K8, i wont be there. :-\
And ill be surprised if you get a midwest team at all...
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Yo, so are the regions listed in the first post final or close to it? I'm in the middle of Missouri, I can fight my way onto the Chicago team if I want and if the region team captain is cool with it right?
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It really depends on which active scenes are strong enough by the time Evo rolls around.
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I really want to enter Evo 08, but I'm in like Canada... How would that work? Could I join up with a US team or would I have to somehow qualify with a team in Canada or what? Or could I hold a qualifer in Canada and Canada could be a region by itself.
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La Canadia
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La Canadia
Yarly, Evo 08, Canada enters. =|
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BRING IT YOU maple syrup sucking moose fuckers!
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Team Boston: Me/Dippy/Keith aka K_ aka "TREE"
K_ is Team Captain.
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I can see it now...
Evo2009 rule addition: No cows allowed even if they qualified for unofficial games.
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Okay. So, expanding the Melty Blood scene is your goal? Hmm... I totally missed out on both MB tournaments at evo this year after being peaced out by sickness / laziness.
I did however inadvertently try to annex the Vet-coast, and in my current reign, I will step down from dictatorship position and give it to Vet, as long as he plays more and I can train up with him and be on the team (assuming I have $50 to throw down).
This decision is also due to the feigned interest for MBAC at the NW anime convention Kumori-con, where nobody but one guy showed up and played in practice mode. Fucking scene! You guys can do better.
That is all.
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So... could I get heads up info about participating if I were to come from Canada?
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Round up a team or play at a US major. :p
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So if I round up a team Canada could just be counted as a region right?
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Yep.
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Alright cool. Thanks.
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CanaDA EH? O Dunno what you're talkin' a'Boot.
(sorry at my attempt to imitate canadian accent, i've been doing it this entire week)
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Phoenix Wright 3 bitches~
(You'll see what I mean)
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So if I round up a team Canada could just be counted as a region right?
oh man, you guys have Jeremy (http://www.myspace.com/teh_real_jeremy) up there. Bring him down and Canada will take this guaranteed.
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Canada is an awfully big region. No doubt.
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^Sounds interesting. You think EC Canada would have interest in this kind of thing? I know so little about that scene.
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Well, in Mississauga and Toronto we have a pretty decent scene. I mean we did draw 22 players at the Canadian Championships and most of the players were from the Greater Toronto Area. I would be definitely down to get a team together.
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Curious, why are the teams limited to region instead of allowing any 3 players in the US?
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Curious, why are the teams limited to region instead of allowing any 3 players in the US?
Because whichever regional team wins earns the trophy (the Melty Cup) as a reward for their region. If you have three people from completely different regions, then how are they supposed to share the trophy between the three of them?
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It's kind of like asking why the Olympics is always between countries instead of teams of atheletes!
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Canada isn't allowed to enter US Championships.
So hurry up and change it to NA Championships~
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Fool! We have already annexed Canadia!
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Only theoretically and actually.
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- Vet Coast (Veteru, two others needed :p)
Me and aaronyu2, pretty much~~
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ok im not sure if this was brought up or not but imma put it down anyways
my question was since theres no qualifiers would it be fine if the region holds a regional qualifiers so that that region can send the best players of that region
cause im sure no one here wants to play noobs inna big event like this
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So like. Do i just present the names of the players ? Hawaii has three to go up.
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Just show up. :V
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Bump. Keepin it on the scopes. It's suspiciously quiet around here lately, and I intend to be there and I want a show. :blah: Don't make me consider entering with my currently scrubby level of play.
~M
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Bump. Keepin it on the scopes. It's suspiciously quiet around here lately, and I intend to be there and I want a show. :blah: Don't make me consider entering with my currently scrubby level of play.
~M
Let me get this straight - you just 'bumped' a stickied post? :psyduck:
It's quiet cause it's not until the middle of next year.
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***redacted***
I'm stupifyingly bored, this tourney is the only thing I have to look forward to out here while deployed.
Yes, I'm currently single. That doesn't help matters.
edit: Upon reflection, yeah, I'm being senseless. I apologise. I'm leaving up the original posts to demonstrate what a bored idiot can do, and to leave a mark somewhere I can see it to remind me to shut up sometimes.
Again, I apologise for the spam.
~M
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I am very interested must convince zar and vic.
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so i guess the Philly/DE area will be up
me/LK/ and Demon Hyo (aka marvel players thinking this is faster than marvel)...
im going to convince him more... seem really intrested in the game....
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Team NY is going to be based on how things look during the summer. If i had to decide now it would be me/Zar/Xaq obviously, but 6 months is still a long time for things to change and newcomers to shake things up. Also it's not unlikely that one of those 3 will not be able to make it to evo.
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i will prob. come to this one
can canada send down more teams?
looks like we have enough people to make 2 team canada
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Yeah, you'll have to post teams before Evo though.
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As far as team no coast goes >:( (Thanks for the name Choco and Kayin) I'm hoping to have Myself/LordKnight and one other person who wants to team with us and plans to go to EVO 2008. Now I'd rather have someone step up and volunteer for the third spot (Not to sound like a dick or anything but I'd like to see vids before I decide. Thats assuming I don't know you or haven't seen you play at all) or if it comes down to it have an indivdual tournament at EVO North to claim 3rd spot.
Now of course this is all assuming LordKnight wants to team up again and he can make it to EVO 2008.
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Brandon, I didn't even have to think about it. Me/You/?????
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Shit, I was hoping for me, Zaelar, LK, but I guess that ain't happening.
And off the top of my head I can not see me picking anyone else either.
That could change in the next 9 months though.
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Considering it's supposed to be region based and ohio and nj aren't exactly neighbors...
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Yeah, but Ohio and Philly are neighbors so we just need someone else from the Mid-West.
Maybe HeartNana?
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We have ages to think of teams, and people are already getting hype about it.
COOL
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Brandon, I finally got this game working with netplay and all!
Could I be the 3rd member if I level up enough?
USA needs some Kouma rep...
-Josh
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Yeah, but Ohio and Philly are neighbors so we just need someone else from the Mid-West.
Maybe HeartNana?
I would love to team with you guys, but chances of me making it out there would be pretty low, in all honesty. Im honored that you'd consider me for your team tho, as i thought i had a pretty poor showing at NEC...
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Yeah, but Ohio and Philly are neighbors so we just need someone else from the Mid-West.
Maybe HeartNana?
I would love to team with you guys, but chances of me making it out there would be pretty low, in all honesty. Im honored that you'd consider me for your team tho, as i thought i had a pretty poor showing at NEC...
Pfft, you're literally the only Sion worth mentioning in the nation right now.
:P
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Yeah, but Ohio and Philly are neighbors so we just need someone else from the Mid-West.
Maybe HeartNana?
I would love to team with you guys, but chances of me making it out there would be pretty low, in all honesty. Im honored that you'd consider me for your team tho, as i thought i had a pretty poor showing at NEC...
Well we still got 8 months from now to decides teams, but if you do happen to showing up to EVO along with myself and LK WE HAVE TO TEAM UP AND FORM TEAM NO COAST!!!!!!
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Pfft, you're literally the only Sion worth mentioning in the nation right now.
:P
Thats cause im like, the ONLY one who plays her...
Brandino - aight, if i do show, we'll team, but i would search for another team-member first...
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damn it's three people in the reigon? hmm.. damn
DE/MD maybe? i be willing to team up with bbhood or any maryland cat....orginally i thought buri was going to play but i dunno now...
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Magz is now the NorCal rep FYI.
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Need another midwest rep HeartNana? I'd do it. Its kind of early to be deciding stuff like that, though. Since the midwest has a pretty small representation compared to the west coast we'd want to try to get the best contenders at the time Evo comes up!
Though, just by looking at character composition...Ciel/Sion/Warc would dominate just because these characters are hated quite a bit. >:D That's purely imaginary though, since LordKnight/Brandino are most likely to go compared to HeartNana and especially me since I haven't showed up at a RL tourny before.
Its a pity that the teams aren't 5v5's though, because even the midwest and south could get pretty good showings.
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Stay posted this week, we have some info regarding Melty Cup '08 in the works!
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Major announcement for Melty Cup on the 17th. Stay posted and get hype!
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Updated first post with the major announcement!
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Hawaii has probably only two people to go up, is that fine? Or is three mandatory? lol
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Pfft, you're literally the only Sion worth mentioning in the nation right now.
:P
Thats cause im like, the ONLY one who plays her...
~Rubs his eyes~What?
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Is this the only MB event that's gonna go down at Evo?
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We'll likely hold singles as well.
:3
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yay :toot:
I don't wanna feel like I wasted my time if I didn't play in any tournament at all if I went :psyduck:
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Hawaii has probably only two people to go up, is that fine? Or is three mandatory? lol
3 is mandatory, but that person doesn't have to be from Hawaii. You can always pull another guy, it's open.
Pfft, you're literally the only Sion worth mentioning in the nation right now.
:P
Thats cause im like, the ONLY one who plays her...
~Rubs his eyes~What?
Who else plays her and places? No one.
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Hawaii has probably only two people to go up, is that fine? Or is three mandatory? lol
3 is mandatory, but that person doesn't have to be from Hawaii. You can always pull another guy, it's open.
Pfft, you're literally the only Sion worth mentioning in the nation right now.
:P
Thats cause im like, the ONLY one who plays her...
~Rubs his eyes~What?
Who else plays her and places? No one.
Right..>,>
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Who else plays her and places? No one.
...Magz?
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Who else plays her and places? No one.
...Magz?
Other teir whores?
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Who else plays her and places? No one.
...Magz?
Local tournaments do not count. :|
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Local tournaments do not count. :|
Draw the line fallacy is for retards. How about we just say that tournaments without players on the kijea/Nerina level don't count either?
Or hell, let's be even more realistic and say that tournaments in the U.S don't count.
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That's much easier to remember.
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Local tournaments do not count. :|
Draw the line fallacy is for retards. How about we just say that tournaments without players on the kijea/Nerina level don't count either?
Or hell, let's be even more realistic and say that tournaments in the U.S don't count.
woah there, don't get your panties in a bunch
Why the fuck are we bringing up a comment I made four months ago anyway?
Is your head on straight X-kun?
At the time Rob was the only Sion player worth noting. Maybe Magz plays her now, or you do, whatever.
Great, but that was still four months ago, shit.
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well that's kind of F- UP, if that's what chibi said. i wanted to land my support... but apparently im not a melty supporter whatsoever (cuse i play AH lol)... but shit if eli goes or BBhood goes... imma support and shit... MD/DE style ( or Philly/DE take your pick)
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Local tournaments do not count. :|
Draw the line fallacy is for retards. How about we just say that tournaments without players on the kijea/Nerina level don't count either?
Or hell, let's be even more realistic and say that tournaments in the U.S don't count.
woah there, don't get your panties in a bunch
Why the fuck are we bringing up a comment I made four months ago anyway?
Is your head on straight X-kun?
At the time Rob was the only Sion player worth noting. Maybe Magz plays her now, or you do, whatever.
Great, but that was still four months ago, shit.
You mean Magz..>,>
I was just thinking about people i've see play Sion.I didn't say who placed in aything,I've seen some people play her, hell I used to.>,> Not anymore, but meh I was just curious.If he knew, though i'm sure he knows now.XP
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My point being is that small, local tournaments don't really mean all that much. Don't get all butthurt over it, AJ. :p
Someone was asking "when has a Sion in the US placed in a [major] tournament?", someone gave them an answer, and I said small, local tournaments don't really count for anything. Placing in a major tournament >>>>>>>>>>>>>> placing in a local tournament between you, mostly your friends, and local comp.
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My point being is that small, local tournaments don't really mean all that much. Don't get all butthurt over it, AJ. :p
Someone was asking "when has a Sion in the US placed in a [major] tournament?", someone gave them an answer, and I said small, local tournaments don't really count for anything. Placing in a major tournament >>>>>>>>>>>>>> placing in a local tournament between you, mostly your friends, and local comp.
I understand that, but how do you determine what a "major" is? Having more than a certain amount of players? Having X people come from out of town? Who/what sets the standard for that? All of that aside, I'd just like to point out that majors had nothing to do with the original question, unless I'm reading it wrong. Of course, this all depends on your definition of "placing" and that's just a whole other pile of shit that's not worth getting into.
Edit: Sorry, the way I phrased my earlier statement was a little much.
Why the fuck are we bringing up a comment I made four months ago anyway?
I'm not. Note that I specifically edited my quote to direct my post at Scott's comment about local tournaments vs. "major" tournaments. I've said nothing in regards to anything else.
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Major Points:
- People play Sion
- Old comments are old comments
- Tournaments are tournaments
Who started what:
- X-kun brought up old, worthless comments
- Mizuki makes a remark at X-kuns comment about old, worthless comments
- People respond to said "remark"
- Spirit Juice trolled Magz on accident because of said "remark"
- Chibi wondered what the fuck was going on though it was actually Heart's comment being brought up
- Magz throws out a philosophical argument on tournaments
Ok, so everyone up to speed?
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lol I didn't troll anyone... but AJ took my comment the wrong way. :V
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Xkun..was done after saying "Right.." :-\
In all honesty.
Starting now.
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Honestly people, you all need to relax and mellow out. Save that energy for the Melty Cup!
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Life scrubs.
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Oh cool, it's open now.
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Who else plays her and places? No one.
...Magz?
Other teir whores?
::)
In other news, I 100% sure won't be making this, so sorry Brandon that we wont be able to form a Team Midwest. :(
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evo draws near...has regions been finalized yet?
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Regions have been finalized into go team with whoever you want type regions.
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That's my favorite type!
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Earth vs Mars gogo!
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Since you WC people have been on a TSS binge, if you can bring one of your TSS MVS carts, I can run tss on supergun.
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Spooky you bringing the ah2 cab?
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HAHA! there's no rule against same character teams...
y'all bitches know what that means >:D
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oh shit...me and tom for the team up plz :slowpoke:
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HAHA! there's no rule against same character teams...
y'all bitches know what that means >:D
A team tournament that isn't trying to suck on SBO's stupid rule's cock while stating poor reasons why it tastes good like theres no hair in the way?
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zaelar are you even coming to evo? I've been told that you might not make it.
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Spooky you bringing the ah2 cab?
He doesnt have a cab, but he has his Supergun + TV assist. Also I'm guessing he'd be bringing AH2, since hes planning an event for it at Evo
And with that, I'm on Team "This is probably a really bad mistake!" Who wants in? :toot:
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I'm in ur evo. Takkin ur moneyz.
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Oh shit mofo's its gon be on
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FROSTY POOKIE EDDIE EDDIIIE
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Sp00ky, I'll be bringing one of my TSS carts. Do you need an MVS board too?
Also, any other carts you want me to bring?
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I'm in ur evo. Takkin ur moneyz.
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ROFL
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I dunno why but I wanna MM against other Hisui players cuz i have that much of an ego. :toot:
Anyone interested?
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Assuming I can get the ah2 situatio nworked out it will be a good opportunity for some people to mess with the game. there may also be a tourney for it.
I'm covered on the MVS board, I have a board I modded with a unibios.
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FROSTY POOKIE EDDIE EDDIIIE
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
I don't know I'm jose canceco
On a relevent note, are we having singles? And if so, when?
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Offical Melty Cup 2008 Team entry:
Kijea
Kryojenix
Nerina
*team name yet to be confirmed*
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I dunno why but I wanna MM against other Hisui players cuz i have that much of an ego. :toot:
Anyone interested?
I am.
But shouldn't a new thread be made for such things?
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I dunno why but I wanna MM against other Hisui players cuz i have that much of an ego. :toot:
Anyone interested?
I am.
But shouldn't a new thread be made for such things?
Probably. One will come eventually :P
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Team FAIL shall return to FAIL :toot:
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Team FAIL shall return to FAIL :toot:
I love this Team's name. ;D
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On a relevent note, are we having singles? And if so, when?
There SHALL be singles.
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From the looks of how things are going for me being in tech school till after EVO, I won't be able to make it to the Melty Cup and depending where I get stationed or any other MB tourneys for a while :emo: :emo: :emo: :-[ :-[
And I was wondering also....is there gonna be a singles tourney?
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what tech school are you in?
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And I was wondering also....is there gonna be a singles tourney?
On a relevent note, are we having singles? And if so, when?
There SHALL be singles.
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And I was wondering also....is there gonna be a singles tourney?
On a relevent note, are we having singles? And if so, when?
There SHALL be singles.
Brandon needs to read a book. :slowpoke:
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Or an 8b.
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This will take place at Evolution World 2008.
Rules:
- Three-Man Teams
- Locked Characters
- 2/3 Games, Double-Elimination
- $50 Entry Fee per player
- 1st Place takes Pot, other prizes for top three to be decided (including Shirts, Custom Cases, etc). I'll be contributing $300 towards this. Winning Team also gets to hold the Melty Cup for one year, to be brought back the following year.
- Teams must be decided one month prior to Evolution World 2008.
*Update March 17th 08*
Due to some issues using this format for the tournament, we have made it an open tournament. Although the formation of the team would be highly recommended to be regional, we've left it to where anyone can form a team and be welcomed. Don't get too comfortable with this, Arlieth and I (meaning Mizuki) still have to iron out some kinks. Be relieved or whatever, be still don't get too comfortable. If you have any questions, go ahead and PM Mizuki on SRK or Melty Bread, or catch him on #SRM on pyoko irc network.
i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
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what tech school are you in?
I'm in Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas and will be staying here till the end of August.
@Harem: You made me cry :emo: :emo: :'(
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Due to some issues using this format for the tournament, we have made it an open tournament. Although the formation of the team would be highly recommended to be regional, we've left it to where anyone can form a team and be welcomed. Don't get too comfortable with this, Arlieth and I (meaning Mizuki) still have to iron out some kinks. Be relieved or whatever, be still don't get too comfortable. If you have any questions, go ahead and PM Mizuki on SRK or Melty Bread, or catch him on #SRM on pyoko irc network.
i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
To my understanding, "this" refers to the current ruleset as a whole, and there was also a warning not to get too comfortable it. I'm guessing the "no same character teams" is just one of the kinks that need to be ironed out.
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i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
With kijea and nerina you can't play mecha OR warc oh lolz
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i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
With kijea and nerina you can't play mecha OR warc oh lolz
does it even matter? lol
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i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
With kijea and nerina you can't play mecha OR warc oh lolz
does it even matter? lol
If he wants to team with them
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he might just end up being cannon folder if he can't use Mecha nor Warc, and be carried all the way to winners :V unless a team stops them!
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i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:
With kijea and nerina you can't play mecha OR warc oh lolz
does it even matter? lol
he can use NA and still has good chance to win the tourney.
If he wants to team with them
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Tom told Kijea last night that same character teams aren't allowed, so..
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Better update that shiz in the front page then to make it offical. Otherwise I might enter with an all Hisui team. ;D
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Tom told Kijea last night that same character teams aren't allowed, so..
wunderbar...
don't know why we love this rule so much, but it appears i'm not a mech player anymore
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Otherwise I might enter with an all Hisui team. ;D
I AM GAME :toot:
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my ultimatum: until i see the "no same character" rule officially posted, i'm gunna say it's not in effect.
tom, i know you're insanely busy with school, a shitty job, and a futa girlfriend but it's really not cool leaving us in the dark. it'd be really awesome if you could take a few seconds to confirm or deny the implementation of this rule. 'til then, mech/mech/warc still stands
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know what? until i see the "no same character" rule officially posted, i'm gunna say it's not in effect.
tom, i know you're insanely busy with school, a shitty job, and a futa girlfriend but it's really not cool leaving us in the dark. it'd be really awesome if you could take a few seconds to confirm or deny the implementation of this rule. 'til then, mech/mech/warc still stands
Why wouldn't this rule be implied? IIRC unless its stated that having two of the same character on one team, its usually not allowed. I really don't see why this tournament would be any different than most team tournaments that don't this rule.
Now not that I care or anything (I can't even go to this anymore), but hasn't all WT and other team tournaments have had this rule? So why would this tournament be any different especially if its the same format as past team WT events...3v3.
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its a fucking stupid rule to begin with
:P
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know what? until i see the "no same character" rule officially posted, i'm gunna say it's not in effect.
tom, i know you're insanely busy with school, a shitty job, and a futa girlfriend but it's really not cool leaving us in the dark. it'd be really awesome if you could take a few seconds to confirm or deny the implementation of this rule. 'til then, mech/mech/warc still stands
Why wouldn't this rule be implied? IIRC unless its stated that having two of the same character on one team, its usually not allowed. I really don't see why this tournament would be any different than most team tournaments that don't this rule.
Now not that I care or anything (I can't even go to this anymore), but hasn't all WT and other team tournaments have had this rule? So why would this tournament be any different especially if its the same format as past team WT events...3v3.
In the other West Toasts that had teams, it "specifically" stated that there is a no same character rule in teams. However, in this case, there is nothing in the rules that states "No more than one character of each kind on a team". Instead, it states "Locked characters" which Implies that same character teams are allowed.
To show you that I speak more than :blah:, here is what is stated in the rules in previous WT's-Teams with regards to the "same characters" rule.
WT9: No more than one character of each kind on a team. (i.e.: no Baiken/Baiken/Faust)
WT10: No more than one character of each kind on a team. (i.e.: no Baiken/Baiken/Faust)
WT11: No more than one character of each kind on a team. (i.e.: no Baiken/Baiken/Faust)
WT12: No more than one character of each kind on a team. (i.e.: no Baiken/Baiken/Faust)
Now lets restate the rules for the Melty Cup 2008 in the front page as of May 25, 2008.
- Three-Man Teams
- Locked Characters
- 2/3 Games, Double-Elimination
- $50 Entry Fee per player
- 1st Place takes Pot, other prizes for top three to be decided (including Shirts, Custom Cases, etc). I'll be contributing $300 towards this. Winning Team also gets to hold the Melty Cup for one year, to be brought back the following year.
- Teams must be decided one month prior to Evolution World 2008.
That isn't to say that it can be changed. Then again, it is a little over a month till Evo will start, and, from what i see, this thread started ever since August 29, 2007, 9 months ago, and was edited last since March 17, 2008, 2 months ago, with these rules stated. A change 1 month before the event when it's been posted 9 months before hand may be a tad bit incontinent to some ppl.
:prinny: :prinny: :prinny:
Edit: It is especially inconvinent with the "Teams must be decided one month prior to Evolution World 2008." Rule. :slowpoke:
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Melty is balanced enough that same-character teams shouldn't be a problem. I am for the removal of this "standard" rule, as it is a needless restriction.
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So uhh... Who'll be my 3rd Hisui? :P
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you / me / sphyra?
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No akiha/akiha/akiha teams please; EVO is only a 3 day event.
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you / me / sphyra?
Serious? ;O
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I can see it now...Team Akiha vs. Team Ciel.
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Team Sion... What a scary thought....
Chibi: I'm totally down for that. ;D
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I don't care who is on it, I'm cheering for the 3x Hisui team.
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50% serious Numakie.
As of right now I'm not sure who to have on a team, as I'm sure the big guns here wouldn't want me with them.
:(
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No akiha/akiha/akiha teams please; EVO is only a 3 day event.
Hmmmm.... I'm gonna have to step my game up if this is to come to pass. >:D
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team with me, i promise its free money
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team with me, i promise its free money
For someone else.
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For someone else.
You weren't supposed to give away the suprise :(
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Personally, I don't care for the same char rule. However, in all fairness, I think it's better to not enforce the rule in this case considering how big this tournament is / intends to be. Restricting teams due to a "same char" issue hardly seems worth the $50 entry (it is still $50, right? Too lazy to check the first post!). If teams want to gather the best of the best, let them.
That being said... GET HYPE FOR TEAM "WE TIER-WHORE, BITCH"!
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I don't really care for the same character rule either way, but I would rather hear an offical statement one way or the other instead of hearsay from the organizer's girlfriend's brother's friend's dog's veterinarian.
The "teams must be formed one month prior to Evo" rule is fucking stupid, though. What's the purpose of that rule? To make the event seem 'more official' and to limit the number of teams entering?
Never mind that 98% of the people posting in this thread have no business entering this tournament.
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Official Ruling:
No duplicate characters on a team
Teams may be decided at EVO. No backstabbing dramaz plz.
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Lame on the last minute ruling. :emo:
Oh well. Whats done is done.
Edit: so who to team with now.... hmm...
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Lower the entry for this this shit...seriously :shakehead:
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A team tournament that is trying to suck on SBO's stupid rule's cock while stating poor reasons why it tastes good like theres no hair in the way?
Fixed.
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Lovely...gotta break out the alt now
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Stupid fucking rule, seriously.
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A team tournament that is trying to suck on SBO's stupid rule's cock while stating poor reasons why it tastes good like theres no hair in the way?
Fixed.
why do we keep doing this again?
PS: who actually wants this rule? someone start a poll
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Indeed. i needz ma 3xHisui team >:D
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The main reason for the no-duplicate-characters-rule is to give teams some more variety other than top-tier-exclusivity and to give players who don't use top-tier characters a chance to do some damage. Watching a Cielx3 vs Cielx3 match (highly unlikely with the size of our scene but still possible) would bore everyone to tears and you won't learn much about the game at all from it.
That being said, since we've been dropping restrictions like the regional rule already, I'll consider dropping the character exclusivity rule, as well as the entry fee- I didn't know how much rooms at the Tropicana cost until now and the prices are pretty ridiculous. Maybe I'll drop the entry fee to $30. I'm in the process of ordering entry goodies for people who sign up (Hasuko's roommate works for a company that makes branded stuff like cups and glasses), and I need to order the trophy as well.
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The main reason for the no-duplicate-characters-rule is to give teams some more variety other than top-tier-exclusivity and to give players who don't use top-tier characters a chance to do some damage. Watching a Cielx3 vs Cielx3 match (highly unlikely with the size of our scene but still possible) would bore everyone to tears and you won't learn much about the game at all from it.
I don't care and probably won't go to Evo but I agree with this. But OTOH, if it so happens the teams get duplicates characters without really trying to (Kijea/Kryo) vs actively trying to recruit duplicates (Numakie/MChibi) I'm not really against it either. Save the single character teams for a gimmick exhibition tourney or something. The only "single" character team should be the Random Select team! :toot:
Melty Cup was supposed to be about regional competition, then it got watered down to groups of friends teaming, and is now down to gimmicky teams!
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Putting character variety and feelings aside, I'm going by the the saying that it should of been said so in the first place, otherwise this "Character selection" issue could have been avoided altogether. In fact, that rule probably should have been stated in the front page in the very beginning. It is small details such as this that can cause huge problems if ignored or neglected.
Melty Cup was supposed to be about regional competition, then it got watered down to groups of friends teaming, and is now down to gimmicky teams!
All I am able to see is what I see on the first post which, in my opinion, lacked the detail needed on how big the event is supposed to be. I just see rules and thats it. In other words, it didn't give me a lasting impression. While it doesn't explain the other reasons where it came from regional to gimmicky, I can imagine this being one factor
Strangely enough, it is this little mishap on character selection that got me psyched about my gimmicky team. I am willing to go all the way with the HisuiX3 team if i am able to.
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The main reason for the no-duplicate-characters-rule is to give teams some more variety other than top-tier-exclusivity and to give players who don't use top-tier characters a chance to do some damage.
It doesn't encourage diversity, it forces it...but it actually doesn't. Those 6 Ciel users are still going to enter, just on different teams. Potentially there are more Ciel vs Ciel games if they are spread out(I think, too lazy for math). Unless there is some really broken character(which there isn't in most games) same character teams aren't ideal. Theres no reason to take a mid tier player and hope they do damage if you can take a high tier player that probably will do damage. Forcing two top tiers to take a mid isn't diversity, it's forcing everyone to watch a game that should be for 8th place but it's in the finals. If the mid can actually win against a real team member(not just the other team's mid), then the game is balanced enough that the rule isn't helping anyway.
I guess I'll have to settle for Ciel/Sion/Len Ciel/Sion/Warc Ciel/Sion/Miyako Ciel/Sion/Akiha Ciel/Len/Warc Ciel/Len/Miyako Ciel/Len/Akiha Ciel/Warc/Miyako Ciel/Warc/Akiha or Ciel/Miyako/Akiha for team players who don't use top-tier characters still don't have a chance to do some damage. It's no different than just banning a character you don't like. Instead of a being the best, it's now b, or in this case instead of aaa it's abc. The only problem with this is if aaa is actually the best, then either it's by such a small margin that it being the best is very questionable, or character a needs to be banned.
Adding an unnecessary restriction at this time is, as chibi so precisely describes the rule, "fucking stupid". It's a fucking stupid restriction at a fucking stupid time.
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Zaelar delivered that post like he delivers brown packages
:mystery:?
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Fuck that, I want to form a Hisui BATTALION.
Niggas will be shot down on sight with a dusty vengeance by my maid brigade~.
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Fuck that, I want to form a Hisui BATTALION.
Niggas will be shot down on sight with a dusty vengeance by my maid brigade~.
Shit'll be like WW1 at No mans land. Fuckin Bento fields, dust clouds, random shit and Hisui'Do kens everywhere with chairs for cover!
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i wanna make mech's ending a reality :fap:
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Fuck that, I want to form a Hisui BATTALION.
Niggas will be shot down on sight with a dusty vengeance by my maid brigade~.
Lol Wtf Chibi?!
I just liked this post. So the teams are going to be full of Sions and Ciel?
Man..on every team like Wolverine.
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We should have a 10vs10 or so, Hisui battalion vs people who don't use Hisui.
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Shrug I think you guys should take a chill pill and just work it out. I have my share of ideas I think are wack (winner take all in a tourney with expensive entry fee per team) But I think that it should all just get mentioned and fine tuned. The point is for it to be a big event for us especially with Actress Again around the corner.
I mean they did change the regional only rule when it proved unpopular so I don't see why any other unpopular changes couldn't get made. I'm pretty indifferent on the multiple character issue. If I have to fight 3x Ciel team though I'm going to break someone's heart before that match set is over.
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If the rules are now set in stone and the teams are not allowed to do the same character thing, at least some kind of exhibition or side tourney should be considered. :slowpoke:
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With the removal of the "teams must be decided one month before Melty Cup" rule, nothing's set in stone for awhile. there's still time to debate
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I'm for allowing multiple characters. Top tier exclusivity? This is Melty Blood, remember? Not Marvel or 3s. While a Ciel x3 can be a pain, you gotta realize that a team of the same skill level instead being a W.Len/Arc/Aoko team, three characters that have consistently been on the lower half of the tiers, will show minimal difference in how well they will do. There's also the drawback of using multiple characters: bad matchups and opponents who know the matchup well will hurt the team twice or three times as much as it normally would. It's not unlike spamming one "cheap" move during a match; those who aren't smart or skilled enough to beat it will fall (and sourly), but those who know its flaws are going to cash in. Wakeup DP is really sort of cheap, but the experienced players won't even flinch.
I think that disallowing multiple characters doesn't pay off nearly enough and sort of restricts who you can team with too much.
and yeah, linalys made a good last point there with how far this has sort of degraded, lol. the original plan looked totally great and regional competition looked hot but now we're sitting here trying to make sure we don't get HF-Blade zaeler and brandino or spooky zaido and kurum in what would be the most loltastic teams ever
i'm also opposed to (whether it happens or not) not being able to switch characters in tourney, but i always am :V
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All I am able to see is what I see on the first post which, in my opinion, lacked the detail needed on how big the event is supposed to be. I just see rules and thats it. In other words, it didn't give me a lasting impression. While it doesn't explain the other reasons where it came from regional to gimmicky, I can imagine this being one factor
Arly edited the first post which cut out a lot of details. Read the first posts in the thread to see that this indeed was an epic idea at one point.
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i definetly want in on this at evo.
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I'm for allowing multiple characters. Top tier exclusivity? This is Melty Blood, remember? Not Marvel or 3s.
i dont know what to say to that. unless you want to huddle MBAC in a corner where it get special magical rules and no one's feelings get hurt, and everyone wins an award for outstanding achievement in the field of excellence.
Arlieth has been running tournaments for years, and "no duplicate characters" has 99% always been an implemented rule. It's a good restriction that has always worked in the past, He sees no reason to change it unless everyone bitches hard enough.
if theres any point to argue about, its the entry fee.
This is EVO, not WSOP.
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the problem is that I don't see why the rule of disallowing duplicate characters should be kept. sure, it's always worked in the past for other games but MB is not those other games; we all know that the balance in MB can allow multiple top-tier characters to team together without nearly as big problems as it would have for other, less balanced games, possibly without problems at all. that "special rule" that it would have to allow multiple characters in teams would really say more about how well the game was made compared to others. MB would not be some kid being treated specially because he's disabled or something, MB would be the one that needs to be looked after less because he's more developed and mature than the rest.
it wouldn't be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because it's a scrubby game and completely basic easy and mashy and it's like the tricycle of all fighting games"
it would be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because the balance is really tight and a lot of a strong character doesn't really go far so it doesn't need the rule"
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it wouldn't be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because it's a scrubby game and completely basic easy and mashy and it's like the tricycle of all fighting games"
it would be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because the balance is really tight and a lot of a strong character doesn't really go far so it doesn't need the rule"
HMMMMMMMMMMM
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it wouldn't be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because it's a scrubby game and completely basic easy and mashy and it's like the tricycle of all fighting games"
it would be,
"Yeah, MB team tourney is allowing duplicate characters because the balance is really tight and a lot of a strong character doesn't really go far so it doesn't need the rule"
HMMMMMMMMMMM
Hey, "MB is a scrubby game and completely basic easy and mashy and it's like the tricycle of all fighting games" is still totally gonna happeCOUGHhellmonkeyCOUGH. but they wouldn't think it because of allowing duplicate characters.
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I'm for allowing multiple characters. Top tier exclusivity? This is Melty Blood, remember? Not Marvel or 3s.
i dont know what to say to that. unless you want to huddle MBAC in a corner where it get special magical rules and no one's feelings get hurt, and everyone wins an award for outstanding achievement in the field of excellence.
Arlieth has been running tournaments for years, and "no duplicate characters" has 99% always been an implemented rule. It's a good restriction that has always worked in the past, He sees no reason to change it unless everyone bitches hard enough.
if theres any point to argue about, its the entry fee.
This is EVO, not WSOP.
I agree with you, Arlieth is more experience than we will ever be in running tournaments. Most people don't give him enough credit for the things he has done for the gaming community other than Melty Blood. I don't get how some people are being more of a douche to him for what he's been doing for years instead of just listening to him for his reasonings. No flames on anyone.
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...but MB is not those other games; we all know that the balance in MB can allow multiple top-tier characters to team together without nearly as big problems as it would have for other, less balanced games...
lemme get this straight, you're going to let a TIER LIST decide whether this rule goes into play?
i dont know if you know this, but tiers DO CHANGE. Constantly. And if it changes to the point where it passes YOUR threshold to allow the duplicate rule, then you'll accept it?? I'm sorry, that's WAY too circumstantial and controversial; "the balance of a game", the "tiers", is just not a good enough reason.
"No-duplicate-characters" is a standard rule. Changing it because MB is "scrubby" or "mature" is 1) already giving it special circumstance ragardless of whether in a positive or negative light, and 2) based on opinion.
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The main reason for the no-duplicate-characters-rule is to give teams some more variety other than top-tier-exclusivity and to give players who don't use top-tier characters a chance to do some damage.
lemme get this straight, you're going to let a TIER LIST decide whether this rule goes into play?
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I'm sorry, that's WAY too circumstantial and controversial; "the balance of a game", the "tiers", is just not a good enough reason.
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I respect the decision. Tom has been to many tourneys. Each having different rules, and he has seen all the pros and cons first hand.
I do suggest that maybe we can setup some sort of side team tourney just for kicks, but with sbo rules(single elim) so it won't take so long since i'm sure melty cup will be a while. If time allows of course.
As for Scott: We need to have some drunken sessions of Monster hunter freedom 2. Stat! ;D
Also on that note.....WHO WANTS TO DRINK WITH ME AT EVO!!!!! :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke:
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quoting arlieth doesnt help your arguement.
and he's wrong about it.
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Also on that note.....WHO WANTS TO DRINK WITH ME AT EVO!!!!! :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke:
I AM GAME HOMIE :toot:
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Also on that note.....WHO WANTS TO DRINK WITH ME AT EVO!!!!! :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke:
I AM GAME HOMIE :toot:
YES!!! :prinny:
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Why is this even an issue? Why should MB be the only game to be the exception to the rule? I could understand if the US didn't have enough character variety or if they game only had 10 playable characters, but MBAC has a good sized cast of characters. What's bad about promoting character variety?
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I just want my fucking Hisui team already.
God damn it.
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I'll play Hisui just for you, Chibi. <3
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go to hell jerk face
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Too bad you're tsundere for me.
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questions
1) It's an issue because some idiot came up with some idiotic rule that people copied.
2) MB shouldn't be an exception, it shouldn't be a rule for any game.
3) It doesn't promote character variety. Even if it did, it would be wrong to promote character variety in competitive play since it is anti-competitive. (In any game where there are more playable characters than team members it might, but then it's promoting wasting time while some crappy character loses for free.)
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1) It's an issue because some idiot came up with some idiotic rule that people copied.
2) MB shouldn't be an exception, it shouldn't be a rule for any game.
3) It doesn't promote character variety. Even if it did, it would be wrong to promote character variety in competitive play since it is anti-competitive. (In any game where there are more playable characters than team members it might, but then it's promoting wasting time while some crappy character loses for free.)
Is this post a joke?
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1) It's an issue because some idiot came up with some idiotic rule that people copied.
2) MB shouldn't be an exception, it shouldn't be a rule for any game.
3) It doesn't promote character variety. Even if it did, it would be wrong to promote character variety in competitive play since it is anti-competitive. (In any game where there are more playable characters than team members it might, but then it's promoting wasting time while some crappy character loses for free.)
1) This is completely subjective and holds no water in this debate.
2) Again, subjective.
3) How does it not promote character variety? Effectively it promotes character variety in teams, which will, hopefully, trickle down to overall promoting character environment for the whole tournament. Anti-competitive? What? Do you even realize that by having three seperate characters on your team it adds strategy to a team's match? How is that anti-competitive? Granted if you were serious about a match, you can carefully pick your match ups based on who your opponents are, what characters they use, and what kind of match ups you want (character and skill wise). HOW is that anti-competitive?
Crappy character loses for free? WHAT? I don't even play MB anymore and even I know how untrue that statement is. Sure, there are less than stellar characters in the game like... White Len, but saying she loses for free is just ignorant.
I'm really not sure how it's anit-competitive in the slightest bit, considering it actually adds strategy to the tournament. Having an all Ciel team that doesn't have to worry about match ups doesn't add anything to the tournament, it takes away from it.
Arlieth: please don't let them pressure you into allowing duplicate characters on one team. You know what you're doing, you know how to run tournaments (aside 2/3 in teams lolololz), so leave the rule as it is.
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Just because you can't time meaties, bait stuff, recover at a reasonable frame, and/or figure out to press A instead of B against Ciel doesn't mean Ciel should be banned.(No, not 3x Ciel, just one.) Anyone who brings up 3x Ciel is, I'm assuming, also for the banning of Ciel in singles, since using Ciel more than half the time is clearly too good and needs to be banned(indirectly of course). Lets just force everyone to switch characters every game in singles so you can only use Ciel for one game each match. This promotes character variety too! If you don't have a good reason for the rule, (hint: you don't) then politely shut the fuck up and say you support the Hisui Battalion.(And tell me once you figure out how to do both.)
lolololz
I want to clarify that by competitive environment I mean playing a game in it's native form, without any modifications unless necessary(like banning akuma in st). You can take other forms of a game and play them just as competitively, but it isn't the same game, and usually isn't worth it if it isn't a big change.(and yes, banning akuma in st is a big change from everyone running akuma) And no, a tournament format isn't changing the game.(Although teams technically do it's more like a big format change for the purpose of this discussion.)
1) You asked why and I gave you the reason. So I'm not 100% sure on the "some idiot" remark, but it is a dumb rule. It specifically answers the question you ask, but holds no water in this debate? Well, technically the reason for it being discussed doesn't have any merit either way in whether or not it should be a rule, but then why ask the question? And how is it subjective? I'm objectively looking at it from the point of a competitive gamer/tournament runner. I'm not considering someone paying you to include the rule as a reason, or other such things. I wouldn't call someone an idiot for using it then, but the rule is still dumb.
2) It isn't subjective in any way. Name one fighting game where it shouldn't apply to in a competitive environment. Just because of your subjective view that you don't like the idea of 3x Ciel doesn't mean it should be a rule.
For the rest I was speaking in the hypothetical, IE it concerns every fighting game, past, present, and future. But since you want to specifically talk about MB, lets for a moment, since it is the worst example of a game to use the rule for the reason stated.
3a) How DOES it promote character variety? It forces(not promotes) at least 3 characters to be used. That isn't much variety considering, even in usa, we have most characters represented already. How many times have you seen more than two people in the top 8 of a mb tournament use the same character? This applies to almost any competitively played game right now that isn't a team game(mvc2, cvs2, kof). All of this happened without the rule. Now how is this going to improve this? All it does is force Kryo to play a secondary character or to team with different people.
Look at ST akuma again. If Akuma was allowed, everyone who was serious about the game would be playing him. Now that he's banned, we have several characters able to compete, even some low tier appearances. Now if you just had team tournaments...well thats covered below.
3b) It's anti-competitive because it forces you to pick worse characters for unnatural reasons. It's not that you can't be competitive with these restrictions, but it's no less dumb than saying ban a random character that you don't like.(oh and also banning ones that you don't mind like 3x hisui as well for no good reason) 3x Ciel(or any character) isn't the best team to go in with. This applies to any game without a broken as hell character. If you want to argue that it is the best, be sure to back it up with valid reasons. Having no counters would be one, but this applies the same to singles as well. It's also arguable whether or not it's true(That japanese matchup chart has disagreements here. There isn't one character where both Ciels and the other players thought it was bad for Ciel). Both general knowledge of mb and results show that she isn't broken or anywhere near unbeatable, so ST akuma level is out of the question.
Since we're talking specifically about MB for the moment, do any half way competent Ciel players plan to team up? Didn't think so...although now I half want to just to piss people off. How about any top tier characters? Closest you'll probably get is mech hisui.
So, anyone considering switching to Ciel [or another popular character(like we have any to begin with)] if you're allowed to team with other Ciel players? Didn't think so. Anyone considering switching characters at all? Oh hey Kryo, run that top tier secondary.
...so so far the rule caused an upper mid to switch to a top. Mission accomplished?
(But seriously, the 3 above paragraphs don't have anything to do with why the rule should(/n't) be there. If you seriously consider expected character selection a valid reason for the rule either way I am forced to question your intelligence.)
x1) Hypothetical game where theres only 2 playable characters(read: worth using) in teams of 3. Obviously the third loses for free and is just there to fill in the third slot. Think ST with Akuma, the non-Akumas would just be there to fill in the blanks while the Akumas actually play. Unless you read only that sentence by itself I don't see how it looks like I'm saying mb is like that though.
x2) I've said it before, if 3x a specific character is really a problem then that character needed to be banned in the first place. If she's such a problem then why aren't you petitioning that Ciel be banned in singles since anyone can use her 100% of the time? Banning teams doesn't add to strategy, it gives you less options. All you did was force people to go Ciel/Sion/Len instead of Ciel/Ciel/Ciel in your fantasy world where there's no reason to pick anything but the best characters on a team.
x3) So Arlieth knows what he's doing, but when it's something you don't like it's "lolololz"? It isn't a rule that I like, but theres nothing wrong with 2/3 in teams. Could get annoyingly long at times, but that is a personal preference thing. It only becomes "lolololz" when the time factor pushes a deadline, which is an unrelated issue.
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For those of you complaining about 3x ciel, why not just ban 3x ciel? Is 2x ciel too much? Then just ban 2x/3x ciel but allow 3x sion/len/akiha/mechsui, or are those too strong too? I know no one is afraid of 3x w.len, so why ban that? Where does the line get drawn? Also say stuff that doesn't also apply to singles unless you want it to apply there too.(Don't complain about cielx3 unless you seriously think ciel should be banned. Not just want her gone, but you seriously think that she is near ST akuma level broken.)
Character diversity got covered above. In case you missed it the results are about 18 against you, and 1 for you. I think it's actually a 0 for you, but I'll let you keep your point until another warc enters.
Standard.........stop sucking cock(I mean blindly x-copying shiny rules) and give a reason as to why you think it's a good rule.(remember: why you WANT the rule and why it's a GOOD rule can be different.)
Tiers got covered in there too. Ciel/Len/Sion is too broken now so we have to limit teams to no more than 1 top tier and 2 upper/top. Sorry kryo, you're going to have to switch characters again.
More strategy since you can't pick 3 of the same character. The only way it adds strategy is if 3x teams were overpowered to begin with, and the only way that is going to happen is with another Akuma reference. The only additional strategic decision that you might encounter is whether to play with better people using a secondary character because you play the same character, or to play with a worse player using only mains.
(And no, wall of text did not crit you, you got comboed by paragraphs.)
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Just because you can't time meaties, bait stuff, recover at a reasonable frame, and/or figure out to press A instead of B against Ciel doesn't mean Ciel should be banned.(No, not 3x Ciel, just one.) Anyone who brings up 3x Ciel is, I'm assuming, also for the banning of Ciel in singles, since using Ciel more than half the time is clearly too good and needs to be banned(indirectly of course). Lets just force everyone to switch characters every game in singles so you can only use Ciel for one game each match. This promotes character variety too! If you don't have a good reason for the rule, (hint: you don't) then politely shut the fuck up and say you support the Hisui Battalion.(And tell me once you figure out how to do both.)
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Zaelar, could you be, y'know, any less respectful of the people you're debating with instead of implying that they're either: 1) morons, 2) gay, or 3) babbling idiots? Whatever actual logic is behind your arguments is obscured by the trashiness of your posts and your utter lack of respect towards your fellow Melty Breaders. The only person who gets to tell people to shut the fuck up and gets to make it stick is me.
Don't make me say it.
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Why is this even an issue? Why should MB be the only game to be the exception to the rule?
VF team tournaments typically do not have any restriction on character usage.
The only person who gets to tell people to shut the fuck up and gets to make it stick is me.
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The only person who gets to tell people to shut the fuck up and gets to make it stick is me.
Whoever says otherwise will have to go through ME! ;D >:D
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I would like same characters and I've been asking nicely ;D
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Anyone who brings up 3x Ciel is, I'm assuming, also for the banning of Ciel in singles, since using Ciel more than half the time is clearly too good and needs to be banned(indirectly of course). Lets just force everyone to switch characters every game in singles so you can only use Ciel for one game each match. This promotes character variety too! Hay guys clearly balance is the only issue and there is no difference between a team match and a singles match with multiple games ^_^
I want to clarify that by competitive environment I mean playing a game in it's native form, without any modifications unless necessary(like banning akuma in st). You can take other forms of a game and play them just as competitively, but it isn't the same game, and usually isn't worth it if it isn't a big change.(and yes, banning akuma in st is a big change from everyone running akuma) And no, a tournament format isn't changing the game.(Although teams technically do it's more like a big format change for the purpose of this discussion.)
1) You asked why and I gave you the reason. So I'm not 100% sure on the "some idiot" remark, but it is a dumb rule. It specifically answers the question you ask, but holds no water in this debate? Well, technically the reason for it being discussed doesn't have any merit either way in whether or not it should be a rule, but then why ask the question? And how is it subjective? I'm objectively looking at it from the point of a competitive gamer/tournament runner. I'm not considering someone paying you to include the rule as a reason, or other such things. I wouldn't call someone an idiot for using it then, but the rule is still dumb. The rule is dumb omg lolz
2) It isn't subjective in any way. Name one fighting game where it shouldn't apply to in a competitive environment. Just because of your subjective view that you don't like the idea of 3x Ciel doesn't mean it should be a rule. One game where the one character limit shouldn't apply? Can't think of one, I thought that's what you were arguing.
For the rest I was speaking in the hypothetical, IE it concerns every fighting game, past, present, and future. But since you want to specifically talk about MB, lets for a moment, since it is the worst example of a game to use the rule for the reason stated. Huh? You've given a reason aside from saying you think it's dumb? (along with somehow comparing singles with teams over the issue of balance and variety when you even mention yourself that teams are a "big format change", implying that (as it so happens) different rules should be used :psyduck:)
3a) How DOES it promote character variety? It forces(not promotes) at least 3 characters to be used. That isn't much variety considering, even in usa, we have most characters represented already. How many times have you seen more than two people in the top 8 of a mb tournament use the same character? This applies to almost any competitively played game right now that isn't a team game(mvc2, cvs2, kof). All of this happened without the rule. Now how is this going to improve this? All it does is force Kryo to play a secondary character or to team with different people.
"If you seriously consider expected character selection a valid reason (against) the rule either way I am forced to question your intelligence"
3b) It's anti-competitive because it forces you to pick worse characters for unnatural reasons. It's not that you can't be competitive with these restrictions, but it's no less dumb than saying ban a random character that you don't like.(oh and also banning ones that you don't mind like 3x hisui as well for no good reason) 3x Ciel(or any character) isn't the best team to go in with. This applies to any game without a broken as hell character. If you want to argue that it is the best, be sure to back it up with valid reasons. Having no counters would be one, but this applies the same to singles as well. It's also arguable whether or not it's true(That japanese matchup chart has disagreements here. There isn't one character where both Ciels and the other players thought it was bad for Ciel). Both general knowledge of mb and results show that she isn't broken or anywhere near unbeatable, so ST akuma level is out of the question. Hay I can contradict myself without making a point at the same time.
Since we're talking specifically about MB for the moment, do any half way competent Ciel players plan to team up? Didn't think so...although now I half want to just to piss people off. How about any top tier characters? Closest you'll probably get is mech hisui.
So, anyone considering switching to Ciel [or another popular character(like we have any to begin with)] if you're allowed to team with other Ciel players? Didn't think so. Anyone considering switching characters at all? Oh hey Kryo, run that top tier secondary.
...so so far the rule caused an upper mid to switch to a top. Mission accomplished?
(But seriously, the 3 above paragraphs don't have anything to do with why the rule should(/n't) be there. If you seriously consider expected character selection a valid reason (against) the rule either way I am forced to question your intelligence.) Agreed, why did you write them?
(more shit I won't put myself through reading again)
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Zaelar, I'm not even going to dignify a proper response to your post other than what I briefly have to say here. I came into the debate asking honest questions, looking for an honest debate, and you've turned it into a juvenile argument. The immaturity in your post hardly warrants any kind of serious response, so grow up. Acting childish and insulting people does nothing for your argument other than make it worse.
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Zaelar, could you be, y'know, any less respectful of the people you're debating with instead of implying that they're either: 1) morons, 2) gay, or 3) babbling idiots? Whatever actual logic is behind your arguments is obscured by the trashiness of your posts and your utter lack of respect towards your fellow Melty Breaders. The only person who gets to tell people to shut the fuck up and gets to make it stick is me.
Don't make me say it.
I never implied that anyone is gay. If you're talking about "sucking cock", it's an expression that basically means supporting something without a reason, and has nothing to do with homosexuality. I'm assuming anyone who babbles on about random x-copied reasons that aren't even true is a babbling idiot, but I don't see where I said or even implied that though...unless you mean saying that they are wrong, in which case you've got a lot of banning to do. If you mean that I took the time to actually type all that out and explain the details that people keep missing, then I guess that would be implying that people are morons that couldn't figure it out on their own, so when are you banning anyone with a long post that explains things?. There is one insult in the whole post, and I'm not even sure it applies to anyone here. It isn't a "you're an idiot" type insult either. It applies to a specific thought that some people(and I'm not sure who) might be having, and calling them out on it.
If you really think that my post is obscure you need to read it again. There are a couple places where it could be shorter, but aside from an extra line here and there it doesn't distort anything. If theres something specific you don't quite get you could ask.
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Can we keep this in the "same character" poll thread? I'm sure no one wants this thread cluttered with drama... :psyduck:
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I never implied that anyone is gay. If you're talking about "sucking cock", it's an expression that basically means supporting something without a reason, and has nothing to do with homosexuality. I'm assuming anyone who babbles on about random x-copied reasons that aren't even true is a babbling idiot, but I don't see where I said or even implied that though...unless you mean saying that they are wrong, in which case you've got a lot of banning to do. If you mean that I took the time to actually type all that out and explain the details that people keep missing, then I guess that would be implying that people are morons that couldn't figure it out on their own, so when are you banning anyone with a long post that explains things?. There is one insult in the whole post, and I'm not even sure it applies to anyone here. It isn't a "you're an idiot" type insult either. It applies to a specific thought that some people(and I'm not sure who) might be having, and calling them out on it.
If you really think that my post is obscure you need to read it again. There are a couple places where it could be shorter, but aside from an extra line here and there it doesn't distort anything. If theres something specific you don't quite get you could ask.
You really don't get it, do you? Your entire post was condescending and arrogant, which clouds the entire post. Nobody really wants to read it because they'll get pissed off after the first paragraph.
If you can't debate this like an adult, then further posting in this thread by you will be considered an infraction. Everyone else, tone the sarcasm down by a notch please or there will be :psyduck: :blah:
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For one time in my life, I agree with Zaelar.
You guys want to promote character variety, but he's said we've already got that. The majority of the cast is being played seriously throughout the US. We have a bloody NAC player for god sake. So what's the real reason to keep the rule there? Are you worried that people will be running 3x Ciel or 3x Sion to better their chances of winning the tournament? Are such teams so bad that the rule need be upheld? If they are, well, then you ban the character, right? A 'boring' team is hardly a reason to keep people from doing such a thing, there's plenty money at stake.
I mean you have proof with Kyro right here. He wants to join Kijea and Nerina, but Kijea plays Mech. So now Kyro can't play his best character. That may create variety, but it dumbs down the team having to force Kyro to change his character, no?
And I don't see it being as condescending as you folks are making it out to be, but whatever.
Just forget it Kevin, and run mm's with 3 man one character teams with Saiyd.
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Can we keep this in the "same character" poll thread? I'm sure no one wants this thread cluttered with drama... :psyduck:
Most likely you're too late to say that :slowpoke:
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Personally I don't think we have enough topheavy character distrobution among the players to warrant the rule in the first place. We'd have to have people _going out of their way_ to make teams with 3 of the same character, because there's such an even spread.
And, as was mentioned earlier, would 3 ciels/sions/koumas/whatever really be that big a deal? If there's 3 of the same character then all 3 of them share the same weakness(es). It's not like we have enough of a player base for teams that most people can be choosy about who plays who on whose team in the first place, since the most like team comps are actually 3 different characters.
So, basically, imho implementing the rule or not implementing the rule won't matter since 99% of the time there won't be a 3 single character team and if there were it wouldn't impact their odds of winning much.
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Just cancel all the Melty Cup merchandise (trophies, belt, etc) and make this a 3x character tournament. It has more than already lost all purpose.
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Just cancel all the Melty Cup merchandise (trophies, belt, etc) and make this a 3x character tournament. It has more than already lost all purpose.
To be frank the same could be said of the entire game community. Half the players are just bored GG players and people who just happen to play but continually say the game sucks and shouldn't be taken seriously because it's just a button mashfest and guilty gear/arcana heart/third strike/SWR/IAMP/whatever_new_fad is so much more fun and deeper and worth bothering with. I'm tired of hearing it at this point.
It's pretty deplorable when more people playing the game treat it like that than not.
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OMFG everyone shut the fuck up. Lets just have a good tourney. Hellmonkey all though has some what of a point, its not really needed. All people want is a good tourney, regardless of what teams enter and how they do we still want a good tourney.
Fuck all these rules bullshit as long as niggas show up to play it doesn't fucking matter. Bring your 2 or 3 of whatever, everyone plays fucking different, and it doesn't matter for replay videos because all that shit will be hyped up the same because I'll be commentating those mothafukas.
People need to do more of stfu and practicing to win big fucking money, and less fucking talking.
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OMFG everyone shut the fuck up. Lets just have a good tourney. Hellmonkey all though has some what of a point, its not really needed. All people want is a good tourney, regardless of what teams enter and how they do we still want a good tourney.
Fuck all these rules bullshit as long as niggas show up to play it doesn't fucking matter. Bring your 2 or 3 of whatever, everyone plays fucking different, and it doesn't matter for replay videos because all that shit will be hyped up the same because I'll be commentating those mothafukas.
People need to do more of stfu and practicing to win big fucking money, and less fucking talking.
I applaud to this man!
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I mean you have proof with Kyro right here. He wants to join Kijea and Nerina,
This is no longer the case but since the "decide teams one month before Melty Cup" rule is out, the new team is a secret.
OMFG everyone shut the fuck up. Lets just have a good tourney. Hellmonkey all though has some what of a point, its not really needed. All people want is a good tourney, regardless of what teams enter and how they do we still want a good tourney.
Fuck all these rules bullshit as long as niggas show up to play it doesn't fucking matter. Bring your 2 or 3 of whatever, everyone plays fucking different, and it doesn't matter for replay videos because all that shit will be hyped up the same because I'll be commentating those mothafukas.
People need to do more of stfu and practicing to win big fucking money, and less fucking talking.
Thumbs up soldier!
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Just cancel all the Melty Cup merchandise (trophies, belt, etc) and make this a 3x character tournament. It has more than already lost all purpose.
lol
ok no need to go that for linalys
I'm still pretty damn hype for this tourney, its the only reason im going to evo
<3
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OMFG everyone shut the fuck up. Lets just have a good tourney. Hellmonkey all though has some what of a point, its not really needed. All people want is a good tourney, regardless of what teams enter and how they do we still want a good tourney.
Fuck all these rules bullshit as long as niggas show up to play it doesn't fucking matter. Bring your 2 or 3 of whatever, everyone plays fucking different, and it doesn't matter for replay videos because all that shit will be hyped up the same because I'll be commentating those mothafukas.
People need to do more of stfu and practicing to win big fucking money, and less fucking talking.
Absolutely right.
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No ones more hype for this tourney than me, I get to see all my niggaz in one place. How good is that?!? I rarely get to see my peps, but now i get to see everyone at the same time. That is rape....and we're in vegas. :teach:
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Jaxx deserves 6 afros instead of 3.
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Jaxx deserves 6 afros instead of 3.
Why not 7 instead?
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lets give him 8 so it has a perfect symmetry :blah: :prinny:
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
Then I'll give you 10 Megaman's head!
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lets give him 8 so it has a perfect symmetry :blah: :prinny:
LOL nice. I hope lots of people show up for this tourney.
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
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i dont want to get stabbed over this game.
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
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i dont want to get stabbed over this game.
You could get punched..>,>
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
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i dont want to get stabbed over this game.
You could get punched..>,>
OR if its an Asian man, you could get kicked and/or karate Chopped!
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white nerds dont punch too hard so its okay.
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Because if he gets seven afros he'll start playing Marvel and stabbing people.
L...o....L ;D ;D ;D
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In case people care, my graduation date for tech school has gotten bumped so I will try my hardest to make it to EVO and at most I'll miss a day if I don't screw up my out processing I'll 7/10 will be there that saturday. Now for the people that care only so they can get my blood (Jiyuna) Come get some. For all the other 4 or 5 people that care to see me again I really can't wait for this event.
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Man Brandino, you run this "me vs. the world" shit and you wonder why people don't like your attitude.
(Then again, given some of the responses people have given you, I don't blame you.)
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In case people care, my graduation date for tech school has gotten bumped so I will try my hardest to make it to EVO and at most I'll miss a day if I don't screw up my out processing I'll 7/10 will be there that saturday. Now for the people that care only so they can get my blood (Jiyuna) Come get some. For all the other 4 or 5 people that care to see me again I really can't wait for this event.
I'm honored but I'll wait until you are done with your MILITARY TRAINING and get back in melty shape to get REVENGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :prinny:
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Melty Blood is srs biz.
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In case people care, my graduation date for tech school has gotten bumped so I will try my hardest to make it to EVO and at most I'll miss a day if I don't screw up my out processing I'll 7/10 will be there that saturday. Now for the people that care only so they can get my blood (Jiyuna) Come get some. For all the other 4 or 5 people that care to see me again I really can't wait for this event.
Enlighten me... who might this 4 or 5 be?
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jesus christ....
ARLY!! UPDATE THE FIRST FREAKIN' POST PLEASE!
Would like to see a definite time/date for this and finalized rules and entry fee costs (coughdropitto20-30ishcough).
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No kidding, some news on this would be nice ???
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You people are assuming Arlieth has the time to read this forum.
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You people are assuming Arlieth has the time to read this forum.
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You people are assuming Arlieth has the time to read this forum.
No, I'd just like to be sure that it's not simply being dropped due to lack of time.
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Also I'd like an official ruling on whether 3 team members is actually _required_ for the tourney or not. I'd rather not have to resort to paying random people 50-100$ just to fill spots on my team and get perfected at a game they've never heard of.
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Arlieth will be going to Evo barring something insane happening (Hasuko confirmed this for me a couple of days ago), and the tournament is tentatively scheduled for Friday night. Probably be the same schedule as last year (teams on Friday, single tournament on Saturday).
As for requiring three people on a team, if it was up to me, I would allow it... but you would still be responsible for the full entry fee of the entire team, and you would only get one shot, not three. I don't have final say (or any say? depends on who you ask) on the rules though.
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Arlieth will be going to Evo barring something insane happening (Hasuko confirmed this for me a couple of days ago), and the tournament is tentatively scheduled for Friday night. Probably be the same schedule as last year (teams on Friday, single tournament on Saturday).
As for requiring three people on a team, if it was up to me, I would allow it... but you would still be responsible for the full entry fee of the entire team, and you would only get one shot, not three. I don't have final say (or any say? depends on who you ask) on the rules though.
Yes, we are going to Evo barring something like Tom's car exploding. Currently, we are planning to have the tournament on Friday night as well, so your information is correct.
Teams, I cannot say for sure, but I am going to say assume you can't enter without a team until Tom says one way or the other.
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As for requiring three people on a team, if it was up to me, I would allow it... but you would still be responsible for the full entry fee of the entire team, and you would only get one shot, not three. I don't have final say (or any say? depends on who you ask) on the rules though.
Also why entree fee needs to be listed on a per team basis and not a per player basis.
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Arlieth will be going to Evo barring something insane happening (Hasuko confirmed this for me a couple of days ago), and the tournament is tentatively scheduled for Friday night. Probably be the same schedule as last year (teams on Friday, single tournament on Saturday).
As for requiring three people on a team, if it was up to me, I would allow it... but you would still be responsible for the full entry fee of the entire team, and you would only get one shot, not three. I don't have final say (or any say? depends on who you ask) on the rules though.
Well, since all the players already have teams as far as I am aware, nobody is about as good as, well, nobody. If I have to shell out 150$ to enter alone it's the same as shelling out 150$ to enter with 2 people who've never heard of MB.
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GET HYPED EVO WORLDS IS IN 3 WEEKS!!!!!!!!!! GET HYPED AND GET MASHY!!!!!!!!!!
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hmm seems my bitching didnt make it through . (good ol' wireless connection)
CASTLEGOLF: Can you find out if Arly is willing to drop dat fee down to 30/person. 50 a head is kinda bananas.
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hmm seems my bitching didnt make it through . (good ol' wireless connection)
CASTLEGOLF: Can you find out if Arly is willing to drop dat fee down to 30/person. 50 a head is kinda bananas.
melty is quite serious business.
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Currently, we are planning to have the tournament on Friday night as well, so your information is correct.
Can we have an official definitive on this? This'll determine when I ask for time off and leave for Evo. I had originally planned to arrive on Friday night, but if this is the case, I can move things up a little.
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I'm willing to lower the fee, actually. I was actually thinking about making the 3-man team entry exactly $100, or $33 per team. That might make change-making kind of problematic though, but at least it makes the math easy. We can make it $35, that might be easier.
-Charging "$150" per team when only one person is entering is unfair if the person only gets one shot. For $150 he should have three 'lives', per se. But that opens up a whole new can of worms ('buying lives'), so I'll issue the ruling that the team minimum requirement is TWO members ("$50" per person). A 2-man team must play with their handicap. It is highly recommended to find a third member.
Also, our tournaments must be finished before Saturday, because all side-tourneys are CLOSED on Sunday for finals. If we're going to do both singles and Melty Cup, one of them had better be on Friday. Because team tournaments almost always do better if they're placed before singles tournaments (whereas singles tournaments have the same amount of entrants no matter what), Melty Cup will be on Friday.
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Thanks for the update arly, glad to see this didn't keel over due to lack of interest.
So, regarding teams, will it be 1v1(times number of people on teams) and the winners fight eachother until one team is out of players, or will it be more of a stock sort of thing where one person fights until they lose, next person fights till they lose, etc, till one team is out?
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Main-teams(this) on friday, main-singles on saturday, and I have a couple other ideas for side-side-events if there is interest and time, which would be done earlier, before the main side events. I'm not too worried about the time, however the interest part is up in the air.
I'm guessing we're bumming in people's rooms on sunday, which is good for a lot of casuals and any money matches that didn't happen.(or runbacks)
I assume it's one person plays until they lose, although everyone playing once then winners play works too.
I was considering suggesting a $100 entree fee for a lowered amount, but I feel it's better to go with $90(or $105) for the change part.
Charging full price for a one person team isn't any more unfair than someone not being able to get top-player teammates. Charging 1/3 price for a one person team(or 2/3 for 2) isn't unfair since everyone has that option, although it does sort of defeat the purpose of a "team" tournament. Same for giving one person 3 lives. I say charge a flat amount per team, max 3 players, and you don't get to enter yourself twice, although there isn't anything wrong with the other ways.
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Main-teams(this) on friday, main-singles on saturday, and I have a couple other ideas for side-side-events if there is interest and time, which would be done earlier, before the main side events. I'm not too worried about the time, however the interest part is up in the air.
I'm guessing we're bumming in people's rooms on sunday, which is good for a lot of casuals and any money matches that didn't happen.(or runbacks)
I assume it's one person plays until they lose, although everyone playing once then winners play works too.
I was considering suggesting a $100 entree fee for a lowered amount, but I feel it's better to go with $90(or $105) for the change part.
Charging full price for a one person team isn't any more unfair than someone not being able to get top-player teammates. Charging 1/3 price for a one person team(or 2/3 for 2) isn't unfair since everyone has that option, although it does sort of defeat the purpose of a "team" tournament. Same for giving one person 3 lives. I say charge a flat amount per team, max 3 players, and you don't get to enter yourself twice, although there isn't anything wrong with the other ways.
Personally I dislike 1 person plays until they lose because it means if they're the best on their team then their teammates get virtually no matches. Even if their teammates all lose, the result would end up being more or less the same, so I'd say make it 3 1v1s and winners fight eachother.
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yessssss
2 people for tourneyyyy
Do we still need to register our members before Evo?
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yessssss
2 people for tourneyyyy
Do we still need to register our members before Evo?
I found out that, if you didn't even register for Evo, you're not getting in. Doesn't matter if you're not participating in the main events, you still had to register just for Evo.
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Aight, after a little browsing on the SRK forums, I got this:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152972&page=4
(4th post down from the top)
So basically, all the meltybread stuff will not require any registrations from EVO itself. The only thing that's still unclear is whether the loke test for games like SFIV and BlazBlue will also let the BYOC people play, or just limited to registered EVO attendees.
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yessssss
2 people for tourneyyyy
Do we still need to register our members before Evo?
I found out that, if you didn't even register for Evo, you're not getting in. Doesn't matter if you're not participating in the main events, you still had to register just for Evo.
Who said anything about me registering for Evo itself? I meant for the team tourney.
And yes, I already did. :V
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yessssss
2 people for tourneyyyy
Do we still need to register our members before Evo?
I found out that, if you didn't even register for Evo, you're not getting in. Doesn't matter if you're not participating in the main events, you still had to register just for Evo.
Who said anything about me registering for Evo itself? I meant for the team tourney.
And yes, I already did. :V
Well thats good, I'm just saying from my friend who has gone every year saying if you don't register, you can't even get in anything, just passing on the info for others who never gone to Evo :psyduck:
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um
i went last year and knew plenty of people who came for byoc and didnt pay a dime
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It would really suck if registration was necessary just to be in the BYOC room. Venue fee was $30 last year, now it's $50. :psyduck: I can live without playing the loke test games.
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I have a room reserved at the Tropicana for Aug 7-11, Right now its Me, Jiyuna, and Pfhor. I'd like to get 2 to 3 more people to room with. Send me a PM if you are interested.
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yes, you do have to pay even if you're not entering any tournies this year. you pay me
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LISTEN UP MOTHERFUCKERS....
...welcome to evo 2k8
Our room has 3 guaranteed people (me, voomer, jiyuna) and 2 tentative ( Tare and Zaido) making 5 people. We want 6 total so anybody interested talk to Voomer or I.
EVO 2k8 LETS GO.
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Jaxx should definitely do the commentary for the Melty Cup :prinny: :V
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So should Bell and Tinshi~
Niggas gotta be drunk though.
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So should Bell and Tinshi~
Niggas gotta be drunk though.
Jaxx, Bell, and Tinshi all commentators while drunk... XD
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speaking of that guy...............
I found out choco hoed out on evo.
I gotta find a way there, and I don't have much time. I'm hoping one of my smash buddys will go. We just wanna play for the lulz
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speaking of that guy...............
I found out choco hoed out on evo.
I gotta find a way there, and I don't have much time. I'm hoping one of my smash buddys will go. We just wanna play for the lulz
Jaxx, get at me ASAP. Not everyone in AZ bailed, and I already have a place to stay procured (for both of us).
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The number of people not showing for evo is kind of... depressing.
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Wow wtf.
This is supposed to a representation of how our scene is growing guys, what the fuck is going on?
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Wow wtf.
This is supposed to a representation of how our scene is growing guys, what the fuck is going on?
Hey if it makes you feel better the turn out for GG is not likely going to be impressive either. :teach:
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Wow wtf.
This is supposed to a representation of how our scene is growing guys, what the fuck is going on?
Hey if it makes you feel better the turn out for GG is not likely going to be impressive either. :teach:
hey if it makes you feel better the turn out for smash is going to be incredible
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddzbWEhr7OA
Pretty good hype vid.
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Wow wtf.
This is supposed to a representation of how our scene is growing guys, what the fuck is going on?
Hey if it makes you feel better the turn out for GG is not likely going to be impressive either. :teach:
hey if it makes you feel better the turn out for smash is going to be incredible
But Smash isn't even a fighting game. :psyduck:
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change of plans, thanks to the internet hate machine i believe i will be able to go...drunk jaxx commentary just may happen
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you better go jaxx, who else am i gonna drink with?
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ditto
remember jiyuana gets the girly ass drink
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change of plans, thanks to the internet hate machine i believe i will be able to go...drunk jaxx commentary just may happen
Jaxx REMEMBER you have to say everything! EVERY LITTLE DETAIL YOU SEE WHILE YOU'RE DRUNK. From dropping the soap to Len's missing panties...
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days off secured...now to hope my next paycheck is substantial...
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days off secured...now to hope my next paycheck is substantial...
Psh! Like you need to worry about that!
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Updates in the singles thread and I made a money match thread. If you're reading this and you don't live in a state near me consider yourself challenged.
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JIYUNA!! DON'T DRINK BEFORE TOURNEY!! :emo:
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One more Week...TILL MADNESS CONSUMES US ALL !
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i want at least 3 ocv's in my name
i'm goin out in flames of glory!
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Yo whats good son all you niggzz suck ya going to get blown out
EDIT: Fuckin Tinshi on my account
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Well, it looks like the "worst case scenario" has happened. Tom found out when his business meeting is, and it directly conflicts with Evo. He and I will not be attending this year.
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:o
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Well, it looks like the "worst case scenario" has happened. Tom found out when his business meeting is, and it directly conflicts with Evo. He and I will not be attending this year.
;_;
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Well, it looks like the "worst case scenario" has happened. Tom found out when his business meeting is, and it directly conflicts with Evo. He and I will not be attending this year.
i'm damn glad i prepared for this...
good luck to tom and his new endeavors
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Well, it looks like the "worst case scenario" has happened. Tom found out when his business meeting is, and it directly conflicts with Evo. He and I will not be attending this year.
faggots
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faggots
qft.
But seriously, is this still going to happen? I can run it if needed.
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I'd suggest let Zaelar run it, drop the entry to 10$ per person(30 per team) and try to encourage more of the singles entrants to join in.
We only have, what, 5 teams entering, maybe 4? The entry fee is going to be incredibly prohibitive.
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I'd suggest let Zaelar run it, drop the entry to 10$ per person(30 per team) and try to encourage more of the singles entrants to join in.
We only have, what, 5 teams entering, maybe 4? The entry fee is going to be incredibly prohibitive.
There also won't be any actual cup for the winners, so it wouldn't really be melty cup at that point. It'll basically just be a simple 3-man team tourney. (which I'm cool with) With this new revelation, I'd support the price drop and rehosting under Zaelar.
Speaking of which, Zaelar, I hope I speak for everyone when I say thanks for you being the big man and taking charge of all of these tournaments for us. Can't let that hype die, brother.
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I'll help out Zaelar as well for Melty Cup.
I'll see about buying a megaphone in Vegas, haha.
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I'll help out Zaelar as well for Melty Cup.
I'll see about buying a megaphone in Vegas, haha.
LOL, you really should.
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i support entry fee drop to coax more people to enter but $10 is way too low. I wanna make some money damn it. This is EVO, not WT. $20 at least
As for the cup, if Tom had it ready, he could send it with a SoCal group.
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I'm with kryojenix on this. I'm for $30/person on entry. What say you?
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Seems like the hype has died for this event. ;(
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i support entry fee drop to coax more people to enter but $10 is way too low. I wanna make some money damn it. This is EVO, not WT. $20 at least
As for the cup, if Tom had it ready, he could send it with a SoCal group.
Very few people are dumb enough to pay that much for the right for some foreigner to take their money.
The structure of the Melty Cup only works if the fight for first place would have been competitive... which it won't be.
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I'd probably enter if it was $10/person, assuming I could find teammates.
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Just asking out of curiosity, is the "no same characters" rule still in effect? I figured since Arly isn't running this anymore it might be ok to bend the rules a little though it seems finalizing the entry fee is most imiportant right now.
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Seems like the hype has died for this event. ;(
you shut your dirty mouth
Very few people are dumb enough to pay that much for the right for some foreigner to take their money.
The structure of the Melty Cup only works if the fight for first place would have been competitive... which it won't be.
good lord, i better not be the only one who's not afraid of the foreigners
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Very few people are dumb enough to pay that much for the right for some foreigner to take their money.
The structure of the Melty Cup only works if the fight for first place would have been competitive... which it won't be.
good lord, i better not be the only one who's not afraid of the foreigners
haha
frankly put ec is excited to play kijea / nerina
of course dippy is just being dippy
:prinny:
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Will the amount of people remain at 3 mandatory? Or still will be allowing two?
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give us a day to figure everything out guys
zaelar is trying to get in contact with tom
he'll reply to this thread in like 5 hours
;p
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good lord, i better not be the only one who's not afraid of the foreigners
It's not an issue of being scared; it's an issue of knowing the prospective odds and for the vast majority of people that would consider entering, their entry is massively ----------------EV. Now some of that can be made up by the intangibles of playing in such an event (which is how most people justify entering tournaments in the first place), but that kind of money is too steep for that alone to overcome that.
If you're going to call me scared, I'm going to call you a mouth-breathing simpleton that can't understand the first thing about statistics or how to properly judge a match-up. You would make a terrible handicapper.
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i support entry fee drop to coax more people to enter but $10 is way too low. I wanna make some money damn it. This is EVO, not WT. $20 at least
As for the cup, if Tom had it ready, he could send it with a SoCal group.
Very few people are dumb enough to pay that much for the right for some foreigner to take their money.
The structure of the Melty Cup only works if the fight for first place would have been competitive... which it won't be.
At the rate people are dropping out the tourney is looking to only have 2-4 teams in it.
This is pathetic. It won't be a team tourney at this rate, it'll be a moneymatch.
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Will the amount of people remain at 3 mandatory? Or still will be allowing two?
I'm looking for a team if the entry is $10/person, so you don't have to enter as 2 if that's the case :)
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As of right now I don't consider myself as running this, just offering to if needed. Even if I am, It's still Arlieth's tournament and I'm going to be running this more how he wanted it. If he tells me to just run it how I want then Soniti is looking for a team.
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So since Arly & Hasuko won't be coming, what's the current headcount for those staying at Lolisauce's place? :mystery:
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fear is for intelligent people
i has the dumb
since arly's not going, we need a new dictator
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As of right now I don't consider myself as running this, just offering to if needed. Even if I am, It's still Arlieth's tournament and I'm going to be running this more how he wanted it. If he tells me to just run it how I want then Soniti is looking for a team.
I'd say just ask him. The event itself more or less doesn't exist already, no cup, no region lock, and honestly I think everyone here would rather have twice the people in the tourney than twice the prize money and only 3 or 4 teams.
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Ok, just got done talking to Tom, here's what's going down for the team tournament.
- Two of any character not allowed on the same team.
- $25 entry fee per person.
- Two man teams acceptable.
- Format will be single match, double elimination.
- Seeding will be done by region / scene.
Controller issues will mirror that of singles.
Get hype!
All 5 of you.
Jocund, we'd greatly appreciate your help.
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Finals FT2?
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So is this going down on Friday or Saturday? And what's all happening on Friday in terms of meltybread stuff? If there's a time set, that'd be nice :D
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Sign ups will start at 4pm. We'll likely be there from opening for casuals though, so show up hella early.
This is going down on Friday.
Andrew, I'll get back to you on finals tomorrow.
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So since Arly & Hasuko won't be coming, what's the current headcount for those staying at Lolisauce's place? :mystery:
3 - Zar, Jaxx, Dippy.
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Jaxx is commentating this shit, I hope?
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Jocund, we'd greatly appreciate your help.
...Ok what did Tom say to you!!!??
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In that case, I guess you won't be needing my assistance for transportation to Evo then :toot: I'll be going with Prinny :prinny: and another friend.
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Jocund, we'd greatly appreciate your help.
...Ok what did Tom say to you!!!??
Arlieth: pretty much yeah- and have dae assist
Arlieth: dae is very familiar with my tournaments, he's kind of my right hand man ith those
AkarIchijo: dae?
Arlieth: jocund
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Jocund, we'd greatly appreciate your help.
...Ok what did Tom say to you!!!??
Arlieth: pretty much yeah- and have dae assist
Arlieth: dae is very familiar with my tournaments, he's kind of my right hand man ith those
AkarIchijo: dae?
Arlieth: jocund
Curse You Tom! You STILL TRYING TO MAKE MY LIFE MISERABLY WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN HERE!?!??!
Yeah don't worry M-Chibi, I know what to do like most parts so if you need any help, give me a holla. Oh I dont know if I'll be there on time b/c me and Kryojenix have 3s pools so, it might take while or not.
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yea, since 3s is an official event, it takes priority for me. especially since they'll only call your name twice before DQing you...
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yeah well when you guys go 0-2 hurry up back to mb
thx
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Jocund > I don't think you need to do much, I'd just like you to be around because you're familiar with Arlieth's tournaments and I want to run this how he was going to since it's still his tournament, just a new director. If you want to be more involved you're welcome to though.
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Arlieth also said finals are single match.
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Arlieth also said finals are single match.
Anything more than that for a team tournament would be ridiculous.
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Guess first one to post. Good shit to everyone, congratulations to the winners of the Melty Cup. Had fun with my homies in Vegas: Spidey, HF-Blade, Kryojenix, jux, Xie, ObiWanBaloney, Kijea, and Steve that I roomed with you guys. Wish you all good luck on future tournaments, for this was my last for Melty Blood, and hope to see you all in other games. Cheers.
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Yeah great weekend hanging out with everyone. Epic last day or squeezing 20 people in one room to finish melty singles, while having Blitz/IaMP causals in the hallway. Great to meet and have dinner with all the EC people. Rithli if you read melty forums....your too pro at Blitz, thanks for all the lessons. Dammit Kryo for quiting fighting games, we will drag you back in somehow!! Jiyuna, I need to beat you some more at mtg the next gathering. And I didnt know we had so many mtg nerds in this community so everyone needs to bring their shit next time. Nice seeing the norcal folks again, tenkai and mags, It was a fun weekend, I should have went and gambled more but oh well, there is always next time. See you guys in irc.. :)