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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2012, 06:31:35 PM »
you're mean and I find your response offensive.

I appologize if I sounded mean, But I think your response was much more crucial. I don't care how I type, or how many people want to criticise me for the way I type, or because I don't type with ettiqutte skills. This is not a book that is being published, or a college essay either.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2012, 07:25:14 PM »
Ok, I have a problem with the whiff cancel combo. I start the 2c 5c 2c then I hit 2a using both whiff cancel and connecting 2a. I tried both ways. After the 2c 5c 2c ( whiff 2a ), I have to hit the opponent with the 2a after the first one misses, so I can 2c right after, which makes the opponent flip into invincible frames ( because the combo ended, which doesn't allow me to reset the combo even with whiff 2a ). Now the other way is to 2a hitting them the first try, which has an extremely awkward timing, and even if it hits, it hits them back up, which brings me back to square 1 again. Also that combo is only good as a start up combo, and not good if you were in a combo already, because no matter what, it wont allow me to do the last C  if I start the combo with a 5a 5a, because any other move will then change the string of the combo, making a 2nd 2c impossible, making the opponent able to recover. So basically, I would have to change it to 5a 5a 2c 5c 6c instead of 2c again. I've tried this a number of times thoroughly with no success. Also 2c 5c 2c is risky during a match because it's almost impossible to perform under pressure unless your opponent is slow ( no one is slower than tohno akiha ). You would have to do it out of a pressure shield, timing the first move just right; and even then, you could only hit that combo at a certain speed, because with no stall would make that combo impossible. Also I noticed I got worse learning these skills lol. Now that I know what I am doing, it's no longer easy to beat the computer on level 5 difficulty. Then again, I remember my friend once saying last year, "when you learn techskills, you will get worse before you can get better".

Edit: Ok 5a 5a 2c 5c 2c can be done, but the timing sucks and a combo like this would take months of practice before using it in a actual game. But then again, I think it would take atleast 6 months of practice minimum ( maybe even a year ), before even playing friendlies against anyone. I think my friend said that he practiced at smash bros melee for a year before even going to tournaments.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2012, 09:38:38 PM »
do you even play people in mbac
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2012, 09:42:24 PM »
do you even play people in mbac

I don't know anyone that even plays in the state of nevada. I wish I could play against someone. It would help me to learn alot more.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2012, 09:57:47 PM »
Go to evo, I'll teach you how to look at the screen while getting hit.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2012, 10:01:03 PM »
Go to evo, I'll teach you how to look at the screen while getting hit.

Do you even go to tournaments? Because, I sure have never heard of you.

Edit: Wait, I do remember you. You were the bald girl that sat in the front row seat, right?
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2012, 10:13:41 PM »
How did you know?! you're so good.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2012, 10:20:23 PM »
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2012, 10:26:56 PM »
I'm MOE
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2012, 10:30:18 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_kQcKiEUP8 footage of kusanagi

That was the most boring game I ever seen in my life ( not trying to dawg on anyone that likes arcana heart ), but I think I would have more fun at a mk1 tournament. It isn't pleasing to see a game with combos going that slow. As for eternal fighter zero, I like that game, even though it is slow also, because eternal fighter zero was designed differently, but there is no excuse for a game like arcana heart 3 to be so slow and boring. It just isn't exciting.

Edit: At one time I actually wanted that game until i seen this tournament match. The game is just too slow with moves like those. Even the gun was slow.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2012, 11:14:29 PM »
but there is no excuse for a game like arcana heart 3 to be so slow and boring. It just isn't exciting.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2012, 11:16:12 PM »
but there is no excuse for a game like arcana heart 3 to be so slow and boring. It just isn't exciting.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2012, 11:22:30 PM »
At least MBAC had caster netplay.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2012, 11:32:43 PM »
At least MBAC had caster netplay.

I'm using some kind of wireless antenna getting wifi lol. But, I still get good speed. I bet I could play someone online if I shut everything down. I want to play someone. I'd rather one day be the best mbac than the best mbaacc player. I have mbaacc, but I only have 2.0 pixel shaders, and I need 3.0 But, even still, I think mbac is the better game, because it seemed the engine of the game was more complex, which made it all worth trying to learn.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2012, 11:45:29 PM »
I'd rather one day be the best mbac than the best mbaacc player.

Congratulations ! You already Are !  :toot:
(since nobody else plays MBAC)

Now Move on.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2012, 11:47:36 PM »
I'd rather one day be the best mbac than the best mbaacc player.

Congratulations ! You already Are !  :toot:
(since nobody else plays MBAC)

Now Move on.

Not trying to be mean, but, what is your problem with me? Your playing a game that has less skill in it. MBAC has a higher skill level, just like smash bros melee. Smash bros brawl was a joke, because they took out all the good techskill. You know what, you're a joke too.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2012, 12:09:42 AM »
You're really mean, I'm a sensitive person you know?
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2012, 12:13:08 AM »
You're really mean, I'm a sensitive person you know?

All you have been doing was trying to dawg on me. I came to this forum because I thought this forum was like family, one big happy MB family, where everyone can get along and try to become the best, and work together helping each other. I just didn't like how you came in here trying to diss me, when I tried to be nice, until you kept trying to dawg me.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2012, 12:17:07 AM »
Don't worry, Kusanagi just doesn't know how to play MBAC. Ask him to netplay it with you and you'll see.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2012, 12:20:16 AM »
I don't play MB sorry  :nyoro:

Never been to any tourney or anything so, I wouldn't be much of a match.  :mystery:
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2012, 12:39:35 AM »
Well, I think I'm gonna play MBAC ver b for a bit. Maybe eventually I'll get to train with someone. I did manage with akiha to 2c 5c 2c 5c and connect some combos to those. It does some decent damage.

Edit: the good thing is I am getting a 2 TB external hard drive any day now, so I'll be able to fit more games lol. I wont have to use this 500 gb external hard drive anymore. Which reminds me, I also have hinokakera fragment eclipse, which has an also game mechanic to it. You can cancel combos and go into other combos, and I think you can cancel specials on that game too and go into another special.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 12:48:32 AM »
Honestly, if you want to do damage, you shouldn't be doing the whiff combo.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2012, 12:51:31 AM »
Honestly, if you want to do damage, you shouldn't be doing the whiff combo.

2c 5c 2c 5c isn't the whiff cancel combo. It can be done easily without whiff cancel. It already with just those 4 moves takes a good amount of damange, and leads to more comboing. See, every little bit counts. If you can manage a 55 hit combo with akiha, then you basically took half of their life bar away.

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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2012, 12:53:38 AM »
This is Melty Blood. Hitting a good 2A means you take away half their health bar.
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Re: Exploring the Whiff Cancel Combo
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2012, 12:59:36 AM »
This is Melty Blood. Hitting a good 2A means you take away half their health bar.

what lol. 2A is like the weakest move in the game. I just pulled off a 2c 5c 2c 5c 4c j 5a 5a grab and that took like 3020 damage. I pulled it off again and it took 3028 damange. I have the controller with me haha.